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Sicilianthing

bahmer wrote:

Life was different back then and also a lot harder thus making kids grow up faster and assume adult type responsibility at a much earlier age also life expectancy was much lower back then as well. Our revolutionary war incorporated many young Americans fighting for our freedom as well so what is your point in all of this?

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This is his point today:

TrueAmerican

Kevyn wrote:

It merits consideration when selfish geriatric folks are v****g to destroy a planet and nation that they wont be around to suffer.

More ignorant ideas from ignorant people !!!!!!

Rose42

moldyoldy wrote:

Those kinds of rules were abandoned for good reason. 18 is an adult, though most do not v**e at that age. I went in the military at 17, but v****g age was 21 then. I think a country run by geriatric white males is a recipe for disaster.

The days of James Monroe and the rest are long gone. Todays young people are far less mature.

35 and up isn't all geriatric, all white or all male. Not by a long shot.

TrueAmerican

bahmer wrote:

I think that you are right and in the beginning of our country if you didn't own property you couldn't v**e either as they used to say you had to have skin in the game before you could v**e to change things. Today we have to many on welfare v****g for more welfare and not working it should be the other way around if you don't work you shouldn't be allowed to v**e.

SPOT ON !!!!!!

archie bunker Loc: Texas

moldyoldy wrote:

Those kinds of rules were abandoned for good reason. 18 is an adult, though most do not v**e at that age. I went in the military at 17, but v****g age was 21 then. I think a country run by geriatric white males is a recipe for disaster.

Have you spent much time around people of this age group lately? Most are stupid, entitled brats who are at about the same stage of development as my kids were at 5 years old.

moldyoldy

archie bunker wrote:

Have you spent much time around people of this age group lately? Most are stupid, entitled brats who are at about the same stage of development as my kids were at 5 years old.

The military is full of teenagers. Their video game sk**ls make them great at todays high tech weapons.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

moldyoldy wrote:

The military is full of teenagers. Their video game sk**ls make them great at todays high tech weapons.

I'm not talking about the military. Obviously, a few can be salvaged, and probably won't v**e the way you want them to.

And my kids fed animals, and dug post holes. At 30, and 32, they're more responsible than most twice their age.

bahmer

archie bunker wrote:

I'm not talking about the military. Obviously, a few can be salvaged, and probably won't v**e the way you want them to.

And my kids fed animals, and dug post holes. At 30, and 32, they're more responsible than most twice their age.

Amen and Amen

youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart

TrueAmerican wrote:

Just remember there (what ever you are male/female... (show quote)

Doesn't matter, he's black.

moldyoldy

archie bunker wrote:

I'm not talking about the military. Obviously, a few can be salvaged, and probably won't v**e the way you want them to.

And my kids fed animals, and dug post holes. At 30, and 32, they're more responsible than most twice their age.

That is exactly the problem with coal country, left in the dark as the world passes them by. Brain are needed in the future instead of strong backs. The Parland students are a great example of articulate young people.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

bahmer wrote:

Life was different back then and also a lot harder thus making kids grow up faster and assume adult type responsibility at a much earlier age also life expectancy was much lower back then as well. Our revolutionary war incorporated many young Americans fighting for our freedom as well so what is your point in all of this?

Well said!

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

archie bunker wrote:

I'm not talking about the military. Obviously, a few can be salvaged, and probably won't v**e the way you want them to.

And my kids fed animals, and dug post holes. At 30, and 32, they're more responsible than most twice their age.

Nice picture... I was looking for that yesterday to post on one of my endless rants..

Oh well, my finding power maybe shot, but the appreciation is real..

rumitoid

The Critical Critic wrote:

There’s been talk of lowering the v****g age to 16. For me, this is preposterous. 16 year olds should be concerned about graduation and prom, they, for the most part, have little if any life experience, and have a long way to go in terms of gaining knowledge.

I think v****g for the President and Vice President, the age should be raised to 35. After all, it is the required age to hold such office....

Change my mind.

Lowering the v****g age to 16 is ridiculous, in my opinion.

Since teenage brains aren’t fully developed, some areas aren’t completely online. Most important, these areas are in the prefrontal cortex, which controls reasoning and teen emotion and self-regulation. As a result, teens can be more impulsive and moody. And because brain development and decision-making are closely related, adolescents aren’t as good at planning ahead and making careful decisions.

Lack of frontal lobe maturity catalyzes a variety of teen behaviors. That’s because the prefrontal cortex is involved with a wide range of functions, known as executive functions. These include the following:

Complex decision-making
Planning sk**ls
Impulse control
Emotional reactions
Focusing attention
Prioritizing competing information received all at once
The ability to ignore external distractions.

There is not a strict time table for a fully developed prefrontal cortex yet usually by the time a person is twenty-one it is complete or nearly. But it is interesting to note that about 17% of teenagers fail to adequately develop a prefrontal cortex. Do we need a V**e Test to determine who may not be adequately mature in this area to cast a b****t?

Twenty-one should be the minimum age requirement.

As far as the requirement to be a property owner or tax payer, the Tax Policy Center has updated its estimate of the percentage of households that will not pay federal income tax this year; it now figures it is 45.3 percent. This includes hard-working men and women, mostly responsible and decent adults, that simply do not make enough to be taxed.

To make a requirement to be a property owner is more ridiculous than allowing a 16 year old to v**e. Does not sound like the land of the free to make such a demand. But it does sound like a Banker's wet dream.

rumitoid

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

And one should need to be a tax payer.. Either property or income... (Unless retired)

No criminal record...

No dual citizenship...

Exceptions should be made for military members... And law enforcement...

Edit: Love the title

45.3% of the populace does not pay either property tax or the IRS. That population makes up hardworking people just getting by, the elderly, the disabled, and the rich with great accountants.

rumitoid

Rose42 wrote:

I have never thought of that before - 35 for v****g for President and Vice President. My gut reaction is its not a bad idea. I'll have to give it more thought.

So no say in representation for young families, doctors, lawyers, teachers, construction workers, military personnel, and so forth. My question is: what makes 35 the magic number? Is there some science of even reasoning to support that age? I will grant that by that age most have matured to be more responsible.