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Mar 11, 2019 18:23:51   #
Airforceone
 
no propaganda please wrote:
There are times when someone says something absurd and I really want to post what I think abut them and their nastiness. Sp I write out what I would say on a piece of paper, go out to clean the dog run and use what I wrote to pick up the turds, a turd for a turd so to speak. Then I take a walk as far as my gimpy arthritic legs will carry me. By then I am too damn tired to be really angry, particularly with someone I don't even know and, from their posts, I don't CARE to know. And I am tire enough to take a nap, and happy that I actually wake up later in time for dinner.
There are times when someone says something absurd... (show quote)



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Mar 11, 2019 18:32:35   #
Airforceone
 
archie bunker wrote:
He really doesn't like me. I know him too well, and I'm still here. I've tried being nice to him. Tried civil debate with him. I've tried it all with him.
He's impossible unless you agree with him. And, he's very dishonest.


There you go Archie insults but with all respect you toned it down. I could respond in kind but will it serve any useful purpose.

If you truly want a respectful debate I am all in. Let’s bury the hatchet. But when you use a
Statement like I am dishonest tell me where I am dishonest and then state the t***h. That’s all I am asking.

I have done some major reseach read plenty of legislation read left and right articles and posted my perceptions and you come on OPP and called me a liar. You never responded as to what was a lie you never respond as to what your perceptions of the facts on the particular topic you just said ( LIAR)

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Mar 11, 2019 19:09:05   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Airforceone wrote:
Exactly and I thought I addressed that issue. The only thing I need is the opportunity to respond without h**e and anger. But I expect the same respect from OPP bloggers. I have a long way to go to prove myself on OPP I offended many because of the actions of a few. I took my anger created by a few and took it out on all bloggers. That was wrong. I need to earn your respect not expect you to give it to me.

You have to understand there are a few people on OPP that called democrats Marxist, then c*******t, then socialist now common sense tells you that you can’t be all three.

Someone calls me a Marxist Democrat I asked the question where did you come up with that so I ask them to look up the difinition of Marxism and then explain how my response fits into such a remark. To this date I have never received a response or an answer. Same with the c*******t statements.

Now socialism I have tried repeatedly to get OPP bloggers to give me there definitions of socialism and apply it to our government programs as to which ones fall under there perception of socialism. But after hundreds of blogs of Republicans calling democrats socialist I still to this day have not received a response. Now Trump is clear as to what one of his main topics for the upcoming campaign is to call democrats socialist. But no right wing blogger will respond to a simple question the diffinition of socialism and then apply it to what programs in our government is actually socialism and yes there are a couple but these socialism programs are just as abundant on the left and right.

So no more sarcastic remarks let’s leave the insults about Hilliary, Obama, Trump or any other politician just use there name to explain there ideology and explain why you think they are right or wrong, let’s stop the using words like i***ts, lunitics, Dummycrats, moron, baby k**lers, lets be respectful.
Exactly and I thought I addressed that issue. The ... (show quote)



I do believe that the dems are Marxist...C*******ts....Socialists...I believe that those three are wrapped in one package with the left's new sweetheart..ocasio Cortez.

People on the right are called bigots and worse because we don't care to surrender to that kind of radically progressive lunacy.


We on the Right want our borders as our right to sovereignty.

We oppose the radical proposal of allowing i*****l a***ns v****g for anything in our sovereign nation.

Do you mistakenly believe that Pelosi and Schumer are pushing for the illegal v**e because i*****l a***ns will v**e on the Right?

Like I've said...I am not a brow beaten soy boy.

The independence and sovereignty of my beloved nation is being assaulted by the left and now anything goes....even i******s v****g.

Tell me how that's constitutional.

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Mar 11, 2019 19:57:35   #
woodguru
 
Airforceone wrote:
I do not know anybody that was refused health insurance on the open exchange. I have helped many people to obtain healthcare because on the open exchange they do not even ask about pre existing conditions. They are not even allowed to ask what medications your taking.
They wanted (Your Name) (YOUR ADDRESS) (THE STATE YOU LIVE IN WAS IMPORTANT TO DETERMINE YOUR PREMIUM COST BECAUSE PREMIUMS WERE A LOT HIGHER IN STATES THAT DID NOT SIGN ONTO THE MEDCAID EXPANSION) (YOUR AGE) ( AND WHAT PLAN YOU WANTED BRONZE, PLATINUM OR GOLD) (YOUR YEARLY INCOME TO DETERMINE IF YOU QUALIFY FOR GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES)
Never with over 50 to 60 people I helped obtain medical insurance did they ask question like what prescriptions are you taking or anything about pre existing conditions because that is 100% illegal and should have been reported.

You have to understand that even prior to the ACA the law stipulates that insurance companies could not ask about pre-Existing condition. But they could ask you if you were taking any medications, that’s how the insurance carriers determined if you had a pre-existing condition.

During the last ten years I have heard the same stories about not being able to get health insurance. From Doctors refusing treatment because of the type of insurance, people not being able to get coverage and they blamed it all on the ACA. Then listen to states having one insurance carrier and charging high premiums this was caused by states not signing onto Medicaid expansion.

This bill is so massive that if you want to discuss one issue at a time I sure would attempt to help you get insurance for those 10 people you say were denied coverage for pre existing conditions. I am so confident that within 72 hours I will have medical Insurance for those ten people. My record is 100%
I do not know anybody that was refused health insu... (show quote)


I meant prior to the ACA I knew a lot of people who had been denied insurance until the ACA started and they got it.

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Mar 11, 2019 20:19:38   #
Airforceone
 
bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen same here. I didn't see eye to eye with you so my way of dealing with you and the situation that you were bringing to the table every day or every other day as it seemed was to simply ignore you and your posts. That was unkind on my part and so I in turn ask you to forgive me for not at least trying to understand your situation and feelings. I intend to stop ignoring you and your posts and at least give you the benefit of the doubt and read your posts. Hopefully I will be able to be more sensitive and more understanding. I lost my son at the age of nineteen do to a hit and run driver and I oh so hope that you can find your son a kidney. Thanks for that post Airforceone.
Amen and Amen same here. I didn't see eye to eye w... (show quote)


Wow this will probably be one of most difficults responses If I get to emotional I hope you understand. I don’t expect to earn your respect overnight I can only do that through my actions and my topics. If you think at anytime I am not being respectful I would hope you will respond and let me know I am going to far. You can do it on the open site or in a private message.

But thank you for your kind response and I do appreciate it. My wife was 47 years old woke up with a pain in her stomach and 4 months later was gone. It torn me up because of her wanting to stay home and raise her three boys who were very active very athletic they all played Hockey, football, golf and avid skiers. There mother did everything for them driving them to every sporting event golf courses , I spent 15 years coaching hockey we never had a minute to rest. My son’s one in his senior year, one his second year in college and the oldest had just graduated with his electrical engineering degree when she passed away. One played college hockey and one played football. They were both elected captains of there college and football hockey teams. Her last wish with her boys is she wanted them to all have a college degree. Her theory was she wanted to give them good teeth and a Education because she wanted them cute and smart. She accomplished that but she never got to see the fruits of her efforts. She never got to see how successful they have become. My youngest and oldest started a business in the electrical, Mechanical, HVAC controls and fire Alarm company and now have over 80 employees and looking to grow bigger. I am so proud of what they accomplished. Unfortunately my middle son is the one that got sick and has been dealing with a lot for 10 years. But he is qualified in Fire Alarms, service and security and has done really well. But he has not had the opportunity to advance financially like his brothers because of loosing his job, He had to sell his Condo move in with me and no insurance, he was close to bankrupt when he moved in with me. I started to help him with his medical cost. This guy for 3 1/2 years goes to dialysis 3 times a week for 4 hours each visit, works 40 to 50 hours a week finds a way to coach an elite hockey team of 16 and 17 year olds. He takes 15 kids on road trips every other week. Plane reservations hotel reservations every two weeks and while he is in different states with these kids he has to find a dialysis chair for 4 hours and I have never heard him complain. When he’s home he sleeps, I cook for him and keep the house clean. Not sure who I am more proud of his brothers or him.

All we have asked for was the ability to have health Insurance I am not looking for government subsidies just the ability to get Insurance. Most of the people that my son sees at dialysis are all on MEDCAID or Medicare. He could say the hell with it and apply for Medicare and let the government pick up his medical cost because there are only two situations when you qualify for Medicare and one is dialysis awaiting for a t***splant. Then I hope you understand why the h**e and anger I have been throwing around when someone wants to take is insurance away.

Also I lost 75% of my wealth during the 2007 2008 and 2009 recession. But that’s another story.

Now my two sons have convinced my son to go to work for them they want him to start up a service company and my son’s know he is well qualified to start up, estimate, and run the complete operation. I am so happy my three sons are back together. I am selling my home and relocating to where I can take care of Mike.

But when I read your post and you giving me the Opportunity to express my perceptions. I can only hope that I accomplish at least that.

Well in ending after I expressed the issues in my life. But nothing can ever come close to loosing a child not even close. I just can’t imagine what you go through from day to day. My thoughts and prayers go out to you.

And again I hope I can earn your respect.



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Mar 11, 2019 20:29:45   #
Airforceone
 
ACP45 wrote:
Airforceone,
I don't think I was one of the four people that treated you with disrespect, but if so, I apologize.

After reading about your son's medical issues, and your experience with Trump stiffing you on work performed, I can understand why you feel the way you do on Obamacare and President Trump.

My experience with Obamacare was not a positive experience at all, but that's a different story for another day. In your son's case, I'm glad it worked out for him.

After reading all the posts on this subject, all of us on OPP should realize that each of us have different experiences and circumstances, and making rash judgements and nasty comments without knowing all the facts about someone, .... well enough said.
Airforceone, br I don't think I was one of the fou... (show quote)


Thank you for your response and you are correct when someone does not respectfully post on the topic as posted we should all respond thru the PM and ask him to knock it off. We can have a great site if we can all learn to respect each other. And no you are not one of the four. If you go thru this thread you could probably figure it out because there Answer was Thanks for the apology.

There are a lot of people who follow on OPP and never respond which is not good. I think it’s because of all the insults that get thrown around. One of the biggest culprits is me. (THAT ALL CHANGES NOW)

I joined a site a few months ago and wow its awesome and every post there is no insults or using terms like K**liary or nasty nick names about Trump or Obama. They ask a question and people answer it in a responsible way.
But I don’t want to get in a blame game it’s all on me for not acting with respect instead of h**e and anger.

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Mar 11, 2019 20:51:49   #
Airforceone
 
no propaganda please wrote:
I have my own health problems to deal with, from the scoliosis I was born with, which "earned" em the nickname from my father of "the gimp" to the serious heart problems I have developed, even going so far as to die twice on the operating table during heart surgery. God has blessed me greatly by keeping me alive through it all. We have both been heavily involved with helping boys from horribly abusive backgrounds survive, grow past the anger and pain to lead good and happy lives. Until about a month ago it was down to two boys needing us as surrogate grandparents and counselors, and both Pete and David are doing well, healing from the physical and emotional torture from their childhoods. So, of course, we HAD to say Yes to a new "grandson", another one of "our boys", this one in foster care with one of our boys from years ago and his wife. Guess that is what keeps me from giving up quite yet, and allow me to put the petty squabbles in perspective.
And when I need a break there are two Cane Corso Mastiffs, one Welsh Terrier and one Staffordshire Bull Terrier, whose smiles and wagging tails brighten each day and ask for so little in return.
I have my own health problems to deal with, from t... (show quote)


Awesome post my whole life I always had two golden retrievers we loved those dogs. But when I went on the road for two years in an RV I could not have Golden’s to big. I cannot live without a dog in my life, So I gave it a shot at a small dog and purchased a Yawkie/miniature poodle if I did not like it I could always find a good home with traveling from RV part to RV park. She owned me within two weeks.

Now I consider myself a real man and I will post a picture of my dog Sophie and just picture me taking her for a walk. This dog is without a doubt a chick magnet I meet more women just walking around with Sophie. Insults are exceptiable when you view this picture of a real mans dog. But as proof here is a picture of my last two Golden’s.







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Mar 11, 2019 20:53:44   #
Airforceone
 
no propaganda please wrote:
yes, they are master-baiters, baiting the masters. Freaken at the Freakers Ball


See why the insults it accomplishes nothing.

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Mar 11, 2019 21:02:40   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Hi Airforceone...

I accept your apologies...
And hope that you can stick to your resolution...
I understand how difficult it is to change and urge you to take small steps...
It's fine to disagree... The forum would kind of suck otherwise...
Let's all try for more civility....
Look forward to discussing issues with you in the future...

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Mar 11, 2019 21:12:16   #
Airforceone
 
byronglimish wrote:
I do believe that the dems are Marxist...C*******ts....Socialists...I believe that those three are wrapped in one package with the left's new sweetheart..ocasio Cortez.

People on the right are called bigots and worse because we don't care to surrender to that kind of radically progressive lunacy.


We on the Right want our borders as our right to sovereignty.

We oppose the radical proposal of allowing i*****l a***ns v****g for anything in our sovereign nation.

Do you mistakenly believe that Pelosi and Schumer are pushing for the illegal v**e because i*****l a***ns will v**e on the Right?

Like I've said...I am not a brow beaten soy boy.

The independence and sovereignty of my beloved nation is being assaulted by the left and now anything goes....even i******s v****g.

Tell me how that's constitutional.
I do believe that the dems are Marxist...C*******t... (show quote)


First Cortez is a first term rep and most democrats are not buying into what she is saying, there are just as many right wing extremist it’s just that Trump has the bully pulpit and he does not hesitate to use it with Sarcasm. So one JR. Repreresentative and Trump attacks the entire Democratic Party.

Now you attacked the entire Democratic Party as being Marxist, C*******t, and Socialist that’s impossible because these three are totally different forms of government.

Now with your perceptions I would appreciate you looking up the definition of Marxism, C*******m and socialism and then post where Democrats are trying to wrap up that package. Looking forward to your response.

I******s v****g has been proven not to be factual I could go through the multiple investigations done under the Bush administration and the states that did there own investigations and nothing was found, that would have even come close to i******s v****g. There were isolated incidents of felons out on parole thinking they could v**e but there were American citizens. Just use this example if you were an illegal would you walk into a pooling precinct and try to r******r to v**e.

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Mar 11, 2019 21:18:03   #
Airforceone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Hi Airforceone...

I accept your apologies...
And hope that you can stick to your resolution...
I understand how difficult it is to change and urge you to take small steps...
It's fine to disagree... The forum would kind of suck otherwise...
Let's all try for more civility....
Look forward to discussing issues with you in the future...


Thank you

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Mar 11, 2019 21:23:26   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Airforceone wrote:
See why the insults it accomplishes nothing.


That was not an insult. Someone else said master-baters and I recalled the Freaken at the Freakers Ball a song from 50 years ago, or so, by Weird Al I think, a very funny song, I think you would enjoy if you just lighten up a little.

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Mar 11, 2019 21:26:19   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Airforceone wrote:
First Cortez is a first term rep and most democrats are not buying into what she is saying, there are just as many right wing extremist it’s just that Trump has the bully pulpit and he does not hesitate to use it with Sarcasm. So one JR. Repreresentative and Trump attacks the entire Democratic Party.

Now you attacked the entire Democratic Party as being Marxist, C*******t, and Socialist that’s impossible because these three are totally different forms of government.

Now with your perceptions I would appreciate you looking up the definition of Marxism, C*******m and socialism and then post where Democrats are trying to wrap up that package. Looking forward to your response.

I******s v****g has been proven not to be factual I could go through the multiple investigations done under the Bush administration and the states that did there own investigations and nothing was found, that would have even come close to i******s v****g. There were isolated incidents of felons out on parole thinking they could v**e but there were American citizens. Just use this example if you were an illegal would you walk into a pooling precinct and try to r******r to v**e.
First Cortez is a first term rep and most democrat... (show quote)



There is nothing positive or productive that could result from a i*****l a***n debate between you and I....

I*****l a***ns already v**e in local Cal bay area e******ns.

Massachusetts is v****g to let i******s v**e, and yes, I do believe that some places register i******s to v**e at the DMV.

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Mar 11, 2019 21:29:08   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
no propaganda please wrote:
That was not an insult. Someone else said master-baters and I recalled the Freaken at the Freakers Ball a song from 50 years ago, or so, by Weird Al I think, a very funny song, I think you would enjoy if you just lighten up a little.


Great song...

99% of the time Weird Al annoys me...

But that 1% when I'm feeling Weird is awesome

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Mar 11, 2019 21:29:30   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
no propaganda please wrote:
That was not an insult. Someone else said master-baters and I recalled the Freaken at the Freakers Ball a song from 50 years ago, or so, by Weird Al I think, a very funny song, I think you would enjoy if you just lighten up a little.


That would be Doctor Hook.... very funny song!

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