Seth

But what you consider facts have absolutely no foundation except the accusations Democrats have standardized for all who disagree with them.

If you read my entire post, you can't find anything that's not fact.

PJT

Emarine. I don't consider Social Security socialism. We pay for it. If we die prematurelyad not married all we get is 250 toward burial. I do think SS is badly run but its not socialism.a

Iliamna1

Well said! What is going on is so obvious and could result in a second American Revolution. I hope not, but there are a lot of hot heads out there.

Common_Sense_Matters

I have provided facts that support my opinions on Trump quite frequently in the past, should I continue posting facts that get ignored EVERY TIME I post them? Wouldn't that be spamming?

As for your "facts", I have pointed out time and again that those stats are just a mere CONTINUATION of a steadily improving economy, to claim that Trump had anything to do with the CONTINUATION, well, that is just the same thing Trump is always doing, taking credit for something he didn't really have anything to do with.

You imply that trade deficits and national debt are basically meaningless even though when Obama was in office, the right harped on and on and on about it, now that Trump is in office and both are worsening, now they are meaningless?

Corporate tax cut, please feel free to show the evidence that they have had ANY impact on the steadily improving economy. As for employers increasing their workforce because of the tax cut? Again, show me proof. Employers don't increase a workforce unless they are failing to keep up with demand or they are introducing a new product line or service, to do otherwise isn't good business, if you are keeping up with demand, there is no reason to hire more employees.

Your statements about the border, funny, a Republican mayor that is the mayor of a town RIGHT on the border says that their wall had little to no impact on the crime stats in his town. I have looked over the crime stats and can't say that I disagree with his assertions.



Trump early on nearly got us into a war with North Korea with his playground taunts of Kim Jong Un, I wouldn't call that peace. Prosperity? Look to my above statements as for the economy and how much impact I think he has had on it.



Typical right wing rhetoric. Taxes specifically, needed for the running of the government and the ONLY way we can expect to get out of debt, not that you are all too concerned about that. Oversized government bureaucracies, Depends on what you consider oversized, many regulations are good for America and those regulations need enforcement. As for this "division over identity politics", same can be said in reverse. Unending series of investigations, legitimate investigations that have already resulted in indictments and even convictions already, unlike all those investigations launched by the Republicans during Obama's term, nearly 400 investigations with not one conviction and how many actual indictments? I would think even you could understand the simple t***h that indictments and convictions indicate that laws WERE actually broken, no convictions typically means laws were NOT broken.

Now, have I presented any proof, I have in the past but I tire of going back and finding the same evidence that repeatedly gets ignored so no, but then if you live in America and your head ISN'T buried in the sand, you should already know these facts. Perhaps if you and your fellow "righties" wouldn't just ignore any facts that don't fit your narrative, I wouldn't need to keep repeating myself, then wh**ever evidence I present to support my claims, it would be fresh in your mind because it will be something that I JUST posted. Don't expect me to have to keep posting the same evidence over and over, if you don't bother to acknowledge it, that is on you, not on me because I get tired of re-looking up the information that you will just continue to ignore.

I tell you what, you know the current economy stats? Why not go back where you got the current stats and look back to see what those stats were doing during Obama's term, look to just after the sharp incline,the sharp incline was only the economy normalizing after Obama stimulated the economy to correct the recession so that sharp incline should be looked past in the interest of fairness, and continue looking all the way to today and you will see steady growth that whole period.

Common_Sense_Matters

Ah, a Republican that acknowledges that SS, medicare/medicaid ISN'T socialism or an "entitlement" but rather something EARNED, something they PAID for, yet many Republican politicians threaten to destabilize those programs or cut them back.

Seth

Your thinking is totally convoluted. Trump didn't "nearly get us in a war with NK," he established what is an ongoing dialogue with Mr. Un, which has a better chance of getting denuclearization out of the mutt than paying him extortion money every time he rattles his saber.

There are various other points you ignore in favor of "the party line," but I have no idea what your experience is where life, work and so forth are concerned. Mine have been diverse, to say the least, and at 60+ I have a veritable cornucopia of life experience to look back on, including some near terminal situations and exposure to just about every type of human being.

I base my beliefs on personal experience.

Common_Sense_Matters

Party line? That is rich coming from you.




Edit: I wasn't aware that there was a "party line" for those like myself that are not affiliated with ANY party, You may want to let CD know that he is in breach of our no party affiliation "party line".

Seth

Everything nearly every Democrat says these days is pure party line, just as Democrat policies ignore human nature.

There's truly something wrong, these days, in Democratland.

With that, I'll bid you a pleasant evening, I have an early commitment tomorrow.

Common_Sense_Matters

Since I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, not a Libertarian and not an Independent (a somewhat newly formed party that I suspect is trying to artificially inflate their enrollment numbers by taking the name Independent), I REALLY don't have any such "party line", I can also guilt free v**e for anyone from any party WITHOUT feeling like I am letting my "party" down. I have and may v**e Republican again in the future, it won't be any time Trump appears on the ticket as a Republican but... To be fair and honest, I won't v**e for Trump regardless what party he claims at any time he runs for any office in the future, including 2020.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Common_Sense_Matters

Interesting, in 2 years+ there have been 3 attacks on Maga hat wearers. I am actually impressed that the number isn't higher considering the message the hat implies, that America WASN'T great already, I have found myself resenting that campaign slogan due to that implied sentiment, I was never motivated to violence but then I am not easily motivated to violence.

I found something interesting too.



magus_melchior is an online moniker, and perhaps the real name of a Republican that claims they were going to v**e for Obama in 2008. Funny, Sarah Palin made that comment in an attempt to rile Republicans up, make them angry, make them h**e this politician that thinks "America is imperfect" and motivate them to v**e in 2008 on the premise that such an insinuation would anger the Republican base, Donald Trump Actually makes such a statement himself with his "Make America Great Again" slogan and Republicans are fine with that. Is there something wrong with this picture? It is an a*********n for Obama to say it (he actually never did), but it is fine for Trump to say it (he in essence really did say it with his MAGA slogan), does anybody else see a double standard here? I found the Sarah Palin quote here, http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=node/3479.

While anger over the insinuation that the wearer of the hat is in essence saying that America wasn't already great is no real excuse for physically assaulting that person, I would hold it less against them than someone who assaults someone wearing a "Yes We Can" (the campaign slogan of Obama) shirt or hat, "Yes We Can" isn't a derogatory statement about America but more of a motivational message.






Oops, I guess I beat the number of victims and the severity of the attacks from 2 years+ in under 1 month, sorry, I didn't mean to show you up, really I didn't. And all that just from one page and that page covers only a 16 day period.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Just a reminder CSM Gov of New York said and this is his words ,NOT mine.."America was NEVER that great!",just saying...

Common_Sense_Matters

Then I am sure he isn't likely to get re-elected.



Edit: Oh, what am I saying? Trump in essence said that exact thing and was elected, I guess he stands a chance after all.

Edit #2 Did you at least look at what I said in my previous comment, check that site for yourself? It is a real eye opener, of course I already knew about the v***r f***d schemes that the Republican party is known for, just neglected to commit to memory the nasty things they said to try to rile anger from the American people against Obama, well... I knew some of those statements, just not all of them.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

What do you mean????...Cuomo already got re-elcted last year!!!

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Just spiteful nothingness...

Wouldn't let it bother you....