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Mar 10, 2019 22:24:37   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
emarine wrote:
Only problem is that Trump promoted physical violence in several public platforms... he would even pay the legal fee's... think about it...


Yes, you are right, he has, and yet the right claims that the left is more h**eful, gotta love it. I guess All the Democrat presidents we had just told their supporters in code to attack opposition/opposition media in code, apparently a code his supporters didn't recognize, that or they chose to ignore his requests.

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Mar 10, 2019 22:30:02   #
IrreverentOne75 Loc: Minnesota
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Yes, I have pointed out the ignorance of TRUMP SUPPORTERS, not every Republican supports Trump and they will typically accept the facts and t***hs regarding Trump, Trump supporters on the other hand, they ALL ignore facts or t***h that don't paint Trump in a good light. What? one that refuses to accept actual facts and t***hs ISN'T ignorant? It isn't generalizing if it is true.


I have to agree with you but offer that the very same thing can be said for every President that I have lived through. The people who support the man they elected will always do that to a degree.
FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, and now Trump all had or still have ardent supporters who either cannot or will not accept that everything they do is not always the best thing.

On the other hand I refuse to accept that what is taking place today, with the constant negativity from the media in general, the almost daily attacks from Hollywood, and the Resist Movement and A****a have happened to any recent President. I find this difficult to understand when the economy is performing very well and unemployment percentages are the lowest in decades for people of color.

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Mar 10, 2019 22:36:59   #
emarine
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Yes, you are right, he has, and yet the right claims that the left is more h**eful, gotta love it. I guess All the Democrat presidents we had just told their supporters in code to attack opposition/opposition media in code, apparently a code his supporters didn't recognize, that or they chose to ignore his requests.



I think that white right America just couldn't accept a black President or a woman & its just that simple...

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Mar 10, 2019 22:51:51   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
emarine wrote:
I think that white right America just couldn't accept a black President or a woman & its just that simple...


I doubt that it is ever 'just that simple'...

Interesting question though...
If POTUS 44 had been white do you believe his policies would have been more acceptable to the right? (same policies of course )

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Mar 10, 2019 22:52:51   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Yes, you are right, he has, and yet the right claims that the left is more h**eful, gotta love it. I guess All the Democrat presidents we had just told their supporters in code to attack opposition/opposition media in code, apparently a code his supporters didn't recognize, that or they chose to ignore his requests.


Can it not be said that there are h**eful individuals on both sides?

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Mar 10, 2019 22:59:56   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Can it not be said that there are h**eful individuals on both sides?


If one is honest, yes. It manifests itself in different ways. To say one is h**eful over the other is silly.

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Mar 10, 2019 23:05:03   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
If one is honest, yes. It manifests itself in different ways. To say one is h**eful over the other is silly.


Agreed...

And your lack of h**e makes you one of my favorite members of the OPP...

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Mar 10, 2019 23:16:12   #
Seth
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Yes, I have pointed out the ignorance of TRUMP SUPPORTERS, not every Republican supports Trump and they will typically accept the facts and t***hs regarding Trump, Trump supporters on the other hand, they ALL ignore facts or t***h that don't paint Trump in a good light. What? one that refuses to accept actual facts and t***hs ISN'T ignorant? It isn't generalizing if it is true.


There ARE no actual FACTS to support your anti-Trump positions, just a lot of conjecture.

Meanwhile, unemployment is at a 20+ year low, economic growth passed 3% when Obama couldn't, with his repressive taxes and regulations, get us past 2% and he even said that was the new normal. He said Trump would need a magic wand to do better, then when Trump DID better, Obama claimed it was HIS doing.

Black, Hispanic and women's unemployment is at an all-time low and because of the demand outdoing supply, employers are having to compete and wages are beginning to go up without the need for local government to artificially raise wages.

Like it or not, trade deficits, national debt, etc mean very little to Americans with more immediate concerns like feeding their families, paying mortgages, etc, and that needs to come before all other considerations.

The corporate tax cuts, same year write-offs for new equipment, trucks, etc and cuts in taxes on repatriated capital have stimulated the economy tremendously.

Say wh**ever you want, those are the facts. I know business owners and corporate execs who have grown their businesses since Trump was elected, BECAUSE of the tax cuts, and hired more people at competitive wages and benefits.

Now let's look at the border.

I had a security business, mostly consulting (I am now semi-retired), and did a lot of corporate and government work, and know people in various areas of federal enforcement. A few are ICE and Border Patrol people. I also have friends who live in the border regions of two states. ALL tell me that things have really gone to hell on the border and that Trump is not exaggerating. The Secretary of Homeland Security has even testified on the emergency to Congress.

The emergency is very real, yet the Democrats, who are focused solely on obstructing anything Trump wants to do and despite having all been for a border wall before the Trump presidency (they're all on video, check YouTube, and there's a post here at OPP with one such video), deny that there's an emergency and are willing to sacrifice the safety of Americans just to deny Trump the fulfillment of a campaign promise.

Every bit of innuendo against President Trump is pure politics-based, there is no evidence to support a single thing the Democrats and the mainstream media are saying about him.

Meanwhile, the Democrats have been pushing too much bulls**t on us at once, between their social justice, identity politics, readiness to k**l a baby after an a******n failed and it's been born, g****r identity crap, black lives that only matter before an e******n, having essential control over school systems in which subjects like American History are being revised to reflect social justice and victimhood themes, Civics is rarely taught and children are graduating from high school with well below grade average achievement, and "strangely" enough, coming of age believing that socialism is better than capitalism -- now I wonder who indoctrinates them to that.

Democrat run sanctuary cities are refusing to cooperate with ICE by letting them know when a violent criminal illegal is being paroled or has served his sentence, so the criminal is simply allowed to walk free among the population to commit more violent crimes.

I could go on, but I think the above covers enough. Every bit of this is reality, deny it all you want.

Trump offers peace and prosperity, the Democrats offer high taxes, oversized government bureaucracies, open borders, division among Americans with their identity politics and an unending series of "investigations" geared towards finding something, anything they can use to impeach the president.

How would you like to have the police knock on your door and announce, "We want to put you in jail, and even though you haven't done anything to deserve it, we're gonna surveil you, search your house and your car every day and keep investigating until we find something, anything, even if we eventually have to invent a crime."?

You wonder why conservatives and other patriotic Americans have a problem with what the Democratic Party has morphed into?

I just gave you a number of reasons, and they are all true, none of the innuendo we hear daily from the Democrats.

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Mar 10, 2019 23:27:39   #
Iliamna1
 
I'm nearly 70 and have to say, I've never seen ANYTHING like the pure, unadulterated hatred that pours non-stop from the MSM. I have to go to One America News or Fox to hear anything good that Pres. Trump has done. I listen to ALL the channels, as well as news outlets on the internet (not all conservative) as I am a news junkie. I remember when Eisenhower was elected, and all the rest, and there has never been such a 100% attempt by the news to devalue a candidate or president in my entire life. And, yes, Trump has done some pretty d********g and tacky things in his past. But he is our president. I did not v**e for Obama, not because of his skin color, but due to his l*****t agenda, but I didn't spend 24/7 speaking trash about him. At church we prayed for all our leaders, including the l*****t winger Demos according to Scripture. I didn't agree with many of Obama's policies, but there was never the total obsession of his opposition to smear him and rip apart his children. Maxine Waters has publically called out her supporters to harrass Trump supporters and they have happily complied.
Smolllett couldn't find anyone to harass him, so he sent f**e mail to himself and paid two of his friends to beat him up to accuse Trump supporters of what he, himself, is guilty of . . . wholesale hatred against what her perceives as the opposition.
And lastly, there's the A****a. Now there's a nasty group of Brownshirts, doing exactly what the Hitler supporters did, beating up and threatening the conservatives. Personally, I think there should be a national law that anyone at a demonstration CANNOT cover their faces. What cowardice!

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Mar 10, 2019 23:32:43   #
Seth
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
I'm nearly 70 and have to say, I've never seen ANYTHING like the pure, unadulterated hatred that pours non-stop from the MSM. I have to go to One America News or Fox to hear anything good that Pres. Trump has done. I listen to ALL the channels, as well as news outlets on the internet (not all conservative) as I am a news junkie. I remember when Eisenhower was elected, and all the rest, and there has never been such a 100% attempt by the news to devalue a candidate or president in my entire life. And, yes, Trump has done some pretty d********g and tacky things in his past. But he is our president. I did not v**e for Obama, not because of his skin color, but due to his l*****t agenda, but I didn't spend 24/7 speaking trash about him. At church we prayed for all our leaders, including the l*****t winger Demos according to Scripture. I didn't agree with many of Obama's policies, but there was never the total obsession of his opposition to smear him and rip apart his children. Maxine Waters has publically called out her supporters to harrass Trump supporters and they have happily complied.
Smolllett couldn't find anyone to harass him, so he sent f**e mail to himself and paid two of his friends to beat him up to accuse Trump supporters of what he, himself, is guilty of . . . wholesale hatred against what her perceives as the opposition.
And lastly, there's the A****a. Now there's a nasty group of Brownshirts, doing exactly what the Hitler supporters did, beating up and threatening the conservatives. Personally, I think there should be a national law that anyone at a demonstration CANNOT cover their faces. What cowardice!
I'm nearly 70 and have to say, I've never seen ANY... (show quote)


Amen and Amen!

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Mar 10, 2019 23:34:17   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
IrreverentOne75 wrote:
I have to agree with you but offer that the very same thing can be said for every President that I have lived through. The people who support the man they elected will always do that to a degree.
FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, and now Trump all had or still have ardent supporters who either cannot or will not accept that everything they do is not always the best thing.

On the other hand I refuse to accept that what is taking place today, with the constant negativity from the media in general, the almost daily attacks from Hollywood, and the Resist Movement and A****a have happened to any recent President. I find this difficult to understand when the economy is performing very well and unemployment percentages are the lowest in decades for people of color.
I have to agree with you but offer that the very s... (show quote)


Yes, many do, there are also many that WILL accept legitimate facts that they may not find agreeable, provided the facts come from a source they find legitimate. If one were to present me with a conspiracy theory, I used to fact check the conspiracy theories, I tend to do that much less frequently now days as I haven't found any to pass the fact check.

Your second paragraph, yes, the economy IS doing well, it has been on the same upward trend for about a decade, to attribute that to one man, especially one man that only recently acquired any control over any of the requisite factors... To be entirely honest, yes, the upward trend continues under his presidency, it hasn't spiked upwards, it doesn't look like there was any noticeable plateau either that any of his policies had to stimulate further growth from either. You would think that if his policies were to have any noticeable impact on any of the upward trend, we should have seen it plateau then start to rise again or there should have been a sharp spike. Did we see Obama get any credit for turning the recession around? All we saw was people complaining about how he did it, how much debt he added. Would they have preferred that he ignore the recession? There was much said about the possibility of that recession turning into a depression if it weren't dealt with. Those same people praising Trump for this great economy are the same ones that NEVER gave Obama any credit at all for turning the recession around. I suppose nothing he did was required, even though economists were all predicting the next great depression, the economy just decided the recession had gone on long enough and turned itself around regardless of Obama's terrible policies.

As for A****a, that is a h**e group that is a far left wing group of activists, they do not represent the democratic party and their actions have been criticized by Democrats as well as Republicans and political commentators alike. To tie them to the Democratic party is essentially like trying to tie w***e s*********ts and white nationalists to the Republican party (though Trump did NOT condemn those groups in an incident that occurred in Charlottesville, Virginia in August 2017).

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Mar 10, 2019 23:35:10   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Agreed...

And your lack of h**e makes you one of my favorite members of the OPP...


I have my moments. You are usually fair.

IMO people overuse the word h**e
and its been marginalized. I think most are venting when they go a little over the top.

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Mar 10, 2019 23:37:01   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Seth wrote:
There ARE no actual FACTS to support your anti-Trump positions, just a lot of conjecture.

Meanwhile, unemployment is at a 20+ year low, economic growth passed 3% when Obama couldn't, with his repressive taxes and regulations, get us past 2% and he even said that was the new normal. He said Trump would need a magic wand to do better, then when Trump DID better, Obama claimed it was HIS doing.

Black, Hispanic and women's unemployment is at an all-time low and because of the demand outdoing supply, employers are having to compete and wages are beginning to go up without the need for local government to artificially raise wages.

Like it or not, trade deficits, national debt, etc mean very little to Americans with more immediate concerns like feeding their families, paying mortgages, etc, and that needs to come before all other considerations.

The corporate tax cuts, same year write-offs for new equipment, trucks, etc and cuts in taxes on repatriated capital have stimulated the economy tremendously.

Say wh**ever you want, those are the facts. I know business owners and corporate execs who have grown their businesses since Trump was elected, BECAUSE of the tax cuts, and hired more people at competitive wages and benefits.

Now let's look at the border.

I had a security business, mostly consulting (I am now semi-retired), and did a lot of corporate and government work, and know people in various areas of federal enforcement. A few are ICE and Border Patrol people. I also have friends who live in the border regions of two states. ALL tell me that things have really gone to hell on the border and that Trump is not exaggerating. The Secretary of Homeland Security has even testified on the emergency to Congress.

The emergency is very real, yet the Democrats, who are focused solely on obstructing anything Trump wants to do and despite having all been for a border wall before the Trump presidency (they're all on video, check YouTube, and there's a post here at OPP with one such video), deny that there's an emergency and are willing to sacrifice the safety of Americans just to deny Trump the fulfillment of a campaign promise.

Every bit of innuendo against President Trump is pure politics-based, there is no evidence to support a single thing the Democrats and the mainstream media are saying about him.

Meanwhile, the Democrats have been pushing too much bulls**t on us at once, between their social justice, identity politics, readiness to k**l a baby after an a******n failed and it's been born, g****r identity crap, black lives that only matter before an e******n, having essential control over school systems in which subjects like American History are being revised to reflect social justice and victimhood themes, Civics is rarely taught and children are graduating from high school with well below grade average achievement, and "strangely" enough, coming of age believing that socialism is better than capitalism -- now I wonder who indoctrinates them to that.

Democrat run sanctuary cities are refusing to cooperate with ICE by letting them know when a violent criminal illegal is being paroled or has served his sentence, so the criminal is simply allowed to walk free among the population to commit more violent crimes.

I could go on, but I think the above covers enough. Every bit of this is reality, deny it all you want.

Trump offers peace and prosperity, the Democrats offer high taxes, oversized government bureaucracies, open borders, division among Americans with their identity politics and an unending series of "investigations" geared towards finding something, anything they can use to impeach the president.

How would you like to have the police knock on your door and announce, "We want to put you in jail, and even though you haven't done anything to deserve it, we're gonna surveil you, search your house and your car every day and keep investigating until we find something, anything, even if we eventually have to invent a crime."?

You wonder why conservatives and other patriotic Americans have a problem with what the Democratic Party has morphed into?

I just gave you a number of reasons, and they are all true, none of the innuendo we hear daily from the Democrats.
There ARE no actual FACTS to support your anti-Tru... (show quote)


The fact that you choose to ignore the facts does not mean they don't exist, they only do not exist for you or other Trump supporters. Ignoring facts does not make them go away, only prevents you from having to deal with them.

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Mar 10, 2019 23:37:10   #
Ricktloml
 
maryjane wrote:
My question to you is this..... Yes, during the Obama era in the White House, there were awful, terrible things said about he and his wife. Sometimes, I still see such horrible comments on Facebook. All such remarks about the Obamas were wrong and unforgivable. BUT, none of that makes it okay for the same to be done by you all now because a person from the other side is president. All of this is wrong and unforgivable, no matter who is doing it, no matter to whom it is addressed. The only purpose of such is hatred and destruction and should not ever happen in the USA. Our country, and too many of its people, has completely lost its way and this is contributing greatly to the eventual, but certain, destruction of our country which will benefit no one except the ultra wealthy elites, who will rule the USA then for their benefit ONLY. Presidents come and go every 4-8 years and the country has always managed to survive because this is just one person, not an all-powerful dictator. If people, any people, want to blame someone for the current state of our nation, then put the blame where it rightfully belongs, which is Congress. This is where the fault lies for all our problems. Congress is totally to blame for our insane national debt but still continues to borrow and spend like a crazy person. Our very country is being ruined forever and headed to total destruction by an unfettered massive invasion of nonassimulating, demanding, using, exploiting foreigners taking everything we have materially, while contributing nothing but chaos, negative change, and destruction of the USA. And all of this is totally the fault of our Congresses for decades including the current Congress. Currently we are having to deal with DACA, a program that should never have happened and one against the interests of our nation/people and a program that would not have ever existed if Congress had been doing its job for this country and our citizens. But that Congress chose to do NOTHING just as, for decades, they have chosen to overwhelm our nation with foreigners that care nothing about us or our country except getting our material wealth. Even if a miracle happened today and not another foreigner ever moved to our nation again, our country will never again be the same, will never again be the America, shining beacon to the world, it once was. And all this is the fault of our congresses, deliberately turning the U.S. into a balkinized land of many separate tribes of no commonalities except hatred and a desire for power over the others. BLAME CONGRESS, because that is where the blame belongs. And awful, terrible words of hatred thrown at the president, any president, changes nothing but the kind of person we are.
My question to you is this..... Yes, during the Ob... (show quote)


The problem during Obama's presidency was criticism of his POLICIES was decried as r****m, when it wasn't. There are always extremes on either side, the left is non-stop vitriol and h**e since Obama, his operatives and appointees in his weaponized intelligence and law enforcement agencies tried to c***t Hillary into the White House, and when they couldn't tried to overturn the e******n and unseat a duly elected president. When has America seen a president, (Obama,) subvert the Constitution to try to pull off a political c**p, the Democrats claimed Nixon wanted to, but he never DID anything. This is an ongoing c**p attempt, fully supported by the Democrat Party and the their accomplices and collaborators in the abusively biased media. H**e has a home and it is the left.

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Mar 10, 2019 23:39:41   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Can it not be said that there are h**eful individuals on both sides?


I agree, there are h**eful people on both sides, as much abuse as many receive, as often as facts are presented that only get ignored, it can lead anyone to stoop to being just as mean as those that attack them.




Edit: You want evidence, look at the poster above me.

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