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Mar 12, 2019 04:10:38   #
Smedley_buzkill (a regular here)
 
maximus wrote:
Sometimes, privilege is like this question...the question is....what is stopping you from being a millionaire?
The answer is....nothing! The truth is that anyone can be rich if they are willing to do what it takes to get there. Everyone is privileged in that they can make themselves rich with very hard work, long hours, no vacati.....yada, yada, yada. But, that's what is takes.
I'm fine, thanks for asking. We've had rain, rain, rain, then very cold for 3 days, then rain, rain, and more rain. How's the weather in China?
Sometimes, privilege is like this question...the q... (show quote)


I'm like every other non-millionaire: If I knew what was stopping me from becoming one I would do something about it. It's certainly not from lack of effort. Making a good living is just not the same.

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Mar 12, 2019 05:28:36   #
dongreen76 (a regular here)
 
JFlorio wrote:
I actually changed my mind on whether or not white privilege exist in the US. In my opinion it does. At first I wanted to deny it because I’ve never gotten a job or anything special just because I was white and I felt insulted. As if everything I have was just handed to me. Recently a friend of mine who played ten years in the NFL put it how he and many of his friends see it. It’s like you’re in a corridor and there’s 100 doors. A couple lead to opportunity. What you do with that opportunity is up to the individual. He explained if your white maybe you get to try 99 doors. If your black maybe 50 doors. Not my fault I have more doors just the way it is. I asked him if it was the same in the NFL now because it’s obvious blacks are more athletic. He agreed it was but also didn’t like anyone thinking he accomplished 10 years of Pro Football just because he was black. We both see there is a privilege but both agree the way to fix it is not to try and level a playing field by taking from one and giving to another. He thinks the answer is education. Equal and mandatory. I don’t disagree. Thoughts?
I actually changed my mind on whether or not white... (show quote)


"YOU PEOPLE" do that a lot,quote one expedient black, and think you have resolved and won a point -not realizing that it is still the nature of some blacks either inadvertently or adverent not to contest whites due to past conditioning . Your friend should have noted that his expedient perception of blacks being the more athletically talented was why they incurred privilege was not entirely correct; that scenario probably existed,but so did another- if a white applied for job along side a black,the white having less talent ,or no talent at all, and the blacks talent was equal to or he had no talent at all,just as the white;the black didn't get hired,the white did-Hence-the phrase and the idea ,blacks had to be twice as good as his peer white.
It is also the nature of the beast -IGNORANCE-.To perpetually perpetrate the same ole stale ass bigoted caustic Idiom.
The arguments back in the day of `AFFIRMITIVE ACTION" were the field of play could be leveled best by reversing the injustice of privileged discrimination- by reversing the trend,a white and black both apply for a job,the black was given the greater consideration, which by the inherent nature of the definition of the word justice,this was fitting ;this would level the playing field and blacks would also catch up.It worked,blacks made huge strides toward achieving a parady in their citizentry,with the Advent of the `Resurgence"movement and the `New World Order", their quest for equality was and is stagnant

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Mar 12, 2019 08:13:01   #
maximus (a regular here)
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
I'm like every other non-millionaire: If I knew what was stopping me from becoming one I would do something about it. It's certainly not from lack of effort. Making a good living is just not the same.



When I was asked that question and was nothing...I started thinking.I've had some good ideas that I let drop and I have seen somebody else make money from them. My first big idea was a rotating brush with user controlled soap and powered by water for washing cars, The brush would work off of a turbine powered by the water pressure built up in the hose. A few years later, my dad had one.
Then when I was installing cabinets, I always had trouble with screws under the kitchen sink or the bathroom vanities. So, I came up with the idea of a small light in the front of the drill to light your work and I even envisioned levels strategically placed to help get holes drilled vertically plumb or horizontally so. I now own such a drill and it is 22 volts cordless, has the light and the levels. My last great Idea came from my parents. They traveled to Little Rock, AK every year for the hot baths.While there, they took a ride on an amphibious vehicle made for WWII from 1943 to 1945. They were designated DUKW, and everybody just calls them duks. In Hot Springs, they were the Yellow DUkS. Well, guess what? We have the Tennessee River running right through the middle of town! I started researching. I found a place to purchase these duks...I can't remember where...out west I think. I found an old gas station that could park 3 maybe 4 duks on the property. For those staying in downtown hotels, I would pick them up there, and for those that were in town for the day, I was going to make a deal with Republic Parking, (while in the cabinet business, I built the owner's cabinets), to get a better parking rate, and let me pick up there. I really felt like I was getting somewhere. I had a part time job leading wild cave tours in a local commercial cave.The man I worked for listened to my plan, and told me that he knew people that had investment money. So, he said the investors listened to the plan and told him they would get back with him. They never did. A couple of years later, we got duks in town. I can't help but believe that the business men stole my idea.
Welp! That's my 3 big chances to make some money...maybe not millions but bet er than the money I DID make. If anybody has similar stories, I'd love to hear them.

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Mar 12, 2019 09:18:14   #
Mikeyavelli (a regular here)
 
teabag09 wrote:
I'm white. In fact there's no way I could deny that as I was a tow headed, blue eyed kid. I mean my hair was as white as a piece of printer paper when I was younger. When I married at 29 my hair was banana blond. Now in my late 60s it's dark blonde with shades of grey finally touching the fringes. There's no way I can hide my whiteness. Doesn't matter how long I sit in the sun or slaver my body with potassium permanganate which will turn me a walnut color, my eyes and my hair will give me away.

As for privilege, I left upstate New York where at the age of 6 I worked rock boats (followed a tractor and gathered rocks out of the plowed field and tossed them on the sleds). In the fall I stacked Hay bales first on the wagons and then in the lofts. Those who have never done the hay thing, the sweat bees and flies will drive you crazy.

After moving to the Tidewater area (Norfolk, Va.) at 8 I got a paper route and I began going to the local row boat rental in the early morning and toting engines, gear to their boats for the fishermen for tips. I eventually became one of the paid crew after a year or two.

While I was only 12 I was working the paper route, the boat house and began working a beer joint just up from the boat house between hours. I bussed tables of National Wrestlers and stacked beer lockers (at 12) I also started running the beer joints owner's 43' boat off shore while he took patrons fishing. I served as bait boy on the way out and captain on the way in as they slept off their great angling exploits.

I moved to Va. Beach in 1965. There I worked at a local small boat yard scraping barnacles and other discussing stuff off of boat bottoms. I even had a 28' boat dropped on me which has affected my back to this day. At the same time I was commercially crabbing, gathering oysters and helping with gill net fishing off the beach. In fact one of my jobs was to gather shoe sole oysters which entailed gathering 12" oysters (many from the pre-revolution time) in waist deep water in February by hand because you had to feel for them. The water was in the low 40's.

I could go on but my point is that though I'm white, there is not white privilege on my part at least. I've earned my place on this hard rock. I owe a lot to a lot of people, both black and white, who had patience enough to teach me things which have gotten me through life without a ton of strain except what I've put on myself and I've put plenty of that.

After a long haul in construction I went to work for the City of Chesapeake at a 760 acre city park (think boondocks) as in charge of all of the maintenance. I was in love. That lasted 23 years but politics got thrown into the equation which I'm not good at as I tend to speak what I think, right or wrong. I saw the writing on the wall and knew I'd be better off retiring (which I truly regret having to do) or probably being fired as I didn't agree with the direction things were going. Best decision I've ever made except I miss getting up early, the 20 minute drive on a windy road and the splendor of 760 acres of woods, meadows and visiting hoards and being able to fix things nobody else had any idea how to. Look up North River Park. Mike
I'm white. In fact there's no way I could deny tha... (show quote)


Mirrors my privileged white life.
We have the privilege of work ethic and stamina.
You are a good man.

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Mar 12, 2019 10:03:54   #
maximus (a regular here)
 
maximus wrote:
When I was asked that question and was nothing...I started thinking.I've had some good ideas that I let drop and I have seen somebody else make money from them. My first big idea was a rotating brush with user controlled soap and powered by water for washing cars, The brush would work off of a turbine powered by the water pressure built up in the hose. A few years later, my dad had one.
Then when I was installing cabinets, I always had trouble with screws under the kitchen sink or the bathroom vanities. So, I came up with the idea of a small light in the front of the drill to light your work and I even envisioned levels strategically placed to help get holes drilled vertically plumb or horizontally so. I now own such a drill and it is 22 volts cordless, has the light and the levels. My last great Idea came from my parents. They traveled to Little Rock, AK every year for the hot baths.While there, they took a ride on an amphibious vehicle made for WWII from 1943 to 1945. They were designated DUKW, and everybody just calls them duks. In Hot Springs, they were the Yellow DUkS. Well, guess what? We have the Tennessee River running right through the middle of town! I started researching. I found a place to purchase these duks...I can't remember where...out west I think. I found an old gas station that could park 3 maybe 4 duks on the property. For those staying in downtown hotels, I would pick them up there, and for those that were in town for the day, I was going to make a deal with Republic Parking, (while in the cabinet business, I built the owner's cabinets), to get a better parking rate, and let me pick up there. I really felt like I was getting somewhere. I had a part time job leading wild cave tours in a local commercial cave.The man I worked for listened to my plan, and told me that he knew people that had investment money. So, he said the investors listened to the plan and told him they would get back with him. They never did. A couple of years later, we got duks in town. I can't help but believe that the business men stole my idea.
Welp! That's my 3 big chances to make some money...maybe not millions but bet er than the money I DID make. If anybody has similar stories, I'd love to hear them.
When I was asked that question and was nothing...I... (show quote)


Opps...I'm showing my lack of sleep here, the correct way to abbreviate Arkansas is AR. It happens.

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Mar 12, 2019 11:11:44   #
Divine truth
 
JFlorio wrote:
I actually changed my mind on whether or not white privilege exist in the US. In my opinion it does. At first I wanted to deny it because I’ve never gotten a job or anything special just because I was white and I felt insulted. As if everything I have was just handed to me. Recently a friend of mine who played ten years in the NFL put it how he and many of his friends see it. It’s like you’re in a corridor and there’s 100 doors. A couple lead to opportunity. What you do with that opportunity is up to the individual. He explained if your white maybe you get to try 99 doors. If your black maybe 50 doors. Not my fault I have more doors just the way it is. I asked him if it was the same in the NFL now because it’s obvious blacks are more athletic. He agreed it was but also didn’t like anyone thinking he accomplished 10 years of Pro Football just because he was black. We both see there is a privilege but both agree the way to fix it is not to try and level a playing field by taking from one and giving to another. He thinks the answer is education. Equal and mandatory. I don’t disagree. Thoughts?
I actually changed my mind on whether or not white... (show quote)


Yes, "White" Privilege exist in America, and racial discrimination, from males and females, white, Hispanic, and immigrates communities. Most white females, with all due respect made it from selling sex, and engaging in various sexual acts for money. Others made their fortune in the drug and slavery trade. No one can deny this truth, with overwhelming evidences to support it. I was recently at a rest center, and the beautiful white female, got an extension of time, and her stay at the center. This wouldn't happen for anyone of "color". There is a mind set, that says that "blacks" are into the homosexual life, and in order for some "whites" to feel privilege they must degrade "blacks" and other ethnicities. Late 1990s, I had a Hispanic lesbian offer me $1 million dollars to be "gay", and I had Jews indicate given me money to embrace this so-called life. So, everything is based on one's sexual orientation, and the abuse thereof. "Black" females have the same privilege as "white" females and people. Yes, their is hate, discrimination, and opportunities that's isn't open to others. Some members of the homosexual community has more privilege then others and the heterosexual population. I once had a "black" female tell me to "sell myself", totally insane, and something that I would never do. You have "white", brown, yellow and all kinds of females and homosexual males making money in the sex industry. Homosexuality is the limpest test for advancement in the "black" community and Christianity. If one is Muslim all doors are closed, for some, like this writer. Behind this madness is the International Bankers and the illuminati or the satanic powers that be. "White" privilege is real, as well as "black" females privilege, there is no equal opportunity, that's a lie. Even "Africans who come into America have special privilege, and the immigrations communities. Everyone that come into America grow rich off of the ignorance state of the masses. White females have very little respect for the "black" males or "African American" males, most of them use us for advancement and economic objectives. I have been noticing a large "White" population in the homelessness community in New York City. Young beautiful females and young "white" males. If this state continue there will be civil war and blood inn the streets this summer, and "white" females will not be able to live in the urban community, safely. There is a plan in plan to remove them. Let's also consider "black" Wall street. That incident of violence and murder was the results of a lie from a "white" female and "blacks" financial freedom. We have to make some serious changes, or suffer the consequences this summer. The powers that be can't deny me my human, civil and constitutional rights, and think that's I'm going to allow them to violate and abuse me mentally, and with impunity, you are sadly mistaken. It's not just White Privileged its also "black" females and homosexual privilege.

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Mar 12, 2019 11:42:02   #
JFlorio (a regular here)
 
maximus wrote:
Opps...I'm showing my lack of sleep here, the correct way to abbreviate Arkansas is AR. It happens.


I have found that if you run into someone who thinks whites got where they are just because they’re white ask them why and how white privilege started. You can get some interesting answers.

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Mar 12, 2019 11:51:50   #
nwtk2007 (a regular here)
 
Divine truth wrote:
Yes, "White" Privilege exist in America, and racial discrimination, from males and females, white, Hispanic, and immigrates communities. Most white females, with all due respect made it from selling sex, and engaging in various sexual acts for money. Others made their fortune in the drug and slavery trade. No one can deny this truth, with overwhelming evidences to support it. I was recently at a rest center, and the beautiful white female, got an extension of time, and her stay at the center. This wouldn't happen for anyone of "color". There is a mind set, that says that "blacks" are into the homosexual life, and in order for some "whites" to feel privilege they must degrade "blacks" and other ethnicities. Late 1990s, I had a Hispanic lesbian offer me $1 million dollars to be "gay", and I had Jews indicate given me money to embrace this so-called life. So, everything is based on one's sexual orientation, and the abuse thereof. "Black" females have the same privilege as "white" females and people. Yes, their is hate, discrimination, and opportunities that's isn't open to others. Some members of the homosexual community has more privilege then others and the heterosexual population. I once had a "black" female tell me to "sell myself", totally insane, and something that I would never do. You have "white", brown, yellow and all kinds of females and homosexual males making money in the sex industry. Homosexuality is the limpest test for advancement in the "black" community and Christianity. If one is Muslim all doors are closed, for some, like this writer. Behind this madness is the International Bankers and the illuminati or the satanic powers that be. "White" privilege is real, as well as "black" females privilege, there is no equal opportunity, that's a lie. Even "Africans who come into America have special privilege, and the immigrations communities. Everyone that come into America grow rich off of the ignorance state of the masses. White females have very little respect for the "black" males or "African American" males, most of them use us for advancement and economic objectives. I have been noticing a large "White" population in the homelessness community in New York City. Young beautiful females and young "white" males. If this state continue there will be civil war and blood inn the streets this summer, and "white" females will not be able to live in the urban community, safely. There is a plan in plan to remove them. Let's also consider "black" Wall street. That incident of violence and murder was the results of a lie from a "white" female and "blacks" financial freedom. We have to make some serious changes, or suffer the consequences this summer. The powers that be can't deny me my human, civil and constitutional rights, and think that's I'm going to allow them to violate and abuse me mentally, and with impunity, you are sadly mistaken. It's not just White Privileged its also "black" females and homosexual privilege.
Yes, "White" Privilege exist in America,... (show quote)


New York sounds a lot different than the south.

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Mar 12, 2019 12:10:11   #
eagleye13 (a regular here)
 
dongreen76 wrote:
"YOU PEOPLE" do that a lot,quote one expedient black, and think you have resolved and won a point -not realizing that it is still the nature of some blacks either inadvertently or adverent not to contest whites due to past conditioning . Your friend should have noted that his expedient perception of blacks being the more athletically talented was why they incurred privilege was not entirely correct; that scenario probably existed,but so did another- if a white applied for job along side a black,the white having less talent ,or no talent at all, and the blacks talent was equal to or he had no talent at all,just as the white;the black didn't get hired,the white did-Hence-the phrase and the idea ,blacks had to be twice as good as his peer white.
It is also the nature of the beast -IGNORANCE-.To perpetually perpetrate the same ole stale ass bigoted caustic Idiom.
The arguments back in the day of `AFFIRMITIVE ACTION" were the field of play could be leveled best by reversing the injustice of privileged discrimination- by reversing the trend,a white and black both apply for a job,the black was given the greater consideration, which by the inherent nature of the definition of the word justice,this was fitting ;this would level the playing field and blacks would also catch up.It worked,blacks made huge strides toward achieving a parady in their citizentry,with the Advent of the `Resurgence"movement and the `New World Order", their quest for equality was and is stagnant
"YOU PEOPLE" do that a lot,quote one exp... (show quote)


So Don;
You are a privileged black Man!
Thanks for admitting it.

"The arguments back in the day of `AFFIRMITIVE ACTION" were the field of play could be leveled best by reversing the injustice of privileged discrimination- by reversing the trend,a white and black both apply for a job,the black was given the greater consideration, which by the inherent nature of the definition of the word justice,this was fitting ;this would level the playing field and blacks would also catch up." -
Don Green

You got your helping hand up.
Now; do you want to kill the goose laying the Golden Eggs?
A free for all?

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Mar 12, 2019 12:10:34   #
Iliamna1 (a regular here)
 
Divine truth wrote:
Yes, "White" Privilege exist in America, and racial discrimination, from males and females, white, Hispanic, and immigrates communities. Most white females, with all due respect made it from selling sex, and engaging in various sexual acts for money. Others made their fortune in the drug and slavery trade. No one can deny this truth, with overwhelming evidences to support it. I was recently at a rest center, and the beautiful white female, got an extension of time, and her stay at the center. This wouldn't happen for anyone of "color". There is a mind set, that says that "blacks" are into the homosexual life, and in order for some "whites" to feel privilege they must degrade "blacks" and other ethnicities. Late 1990s, I had a Hispanic lesbian offer me $1 million dollars to be "gay", and I had Jews indicate given me money to embrace this so-called life. So, everything is based on one's sexual orientation, and the abuse thereof. "Black" females have the same privilege as "white" females and people. Yes, their is hate, discrimination, and opportunities that's isn't open to others. Some members of the homosexual community has more privilege then others and the heterosexual population. I once had a "black" female tell me to "sell myself", totally insane, and something that I would never do. You have "white", brown, yellow and all kinds of females and homosexual males making money in the sex industry. Homosexuality is the limpest test for advancement in the "black" community and Christianity. If one is Muslim all doors are closed, for some, like this writer. Behind this madness is the International Bankers and the illuminati or the satanic powers that be. "White" privilege is real, as well as "black" females privilege, there is no equal opportunity, that's a lie. Even "Africans who come into America have special privilege, and the immigrations communities. Everyone that come into America grow rich off of the ignorance state of the masses. White females have very little respect for the "black" males or "African American" males, most of them use us for advancement and economic objectives. I have been noticing a large "White" population in the homelessness community in New York City. Young beautiful females and young "white" males. If this state continue there will be civil war and blood inn the streets this summer, and "white" females will not be able to live in the urban community, safely. There is a plan in plan to remove them. Let's also consider "black" Wall street. That incident of violence and murder was the results of a lie from a "white" female and "blacks" financial freedom. We have to make some serious changes, or suffer the consequences this summer. The powers that be can't deny me my human, civil and constitutional rights, and think that's I'm going to allow them to violate and abuse me mentally, and with impunity, you are sadly mistaken. It's not just White Privileged its also "black" females and homosexual privilege.
Yes, "White" Privilege exist in America,... (show quote)


Divine Truth, you have really hacked me off with your statement that "Most white females, with all due respect made it from selling sex, and engaging in various sexual acts for money. "
My mother was beautiful, but ended up having to divorce a man who was psychotic and had 2 children to support. We moved to Great Falls, Montana, where she worked full time as a nurse's aide AND went to nursing school full time at the Deaconess Hospital. She never accepted money from any man and drilled into my sister and me the importance of WORKING to get what you wanted. Despite her heavy load, she graduated first in her class and remarried (to a really great guy, BTW). While she was in school, I learned to keep house and cook, thanks to neighbors who knew what was going on. I earned my first money via baby sitting and I had a small business going over to various neighboring houses and cleaning and doing ironing for them. That was many years ago and at that time, I was paid $0.50 per hour, but paid for my school supplies and some of my clothing. All my female relatives worked hard and I really don't know of one who got where they are from selling sex. That's such a FOUL statement, I think it's derived from a fantasy you have about the worth and value of women. For myself, I ended up going to college (without giving sexual favors to my professors) and got my BSN in nursing. My fiance drowned many years ago and I have supported myself all my life without one single penny from anyone. You seem to equate anyone's success, despite color or gender, to being sexual. You have a perverted thought process and you are a pompous jerk.

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Mar 12, 2019 12:10:40   #
Sonny Magoo
 
So it's OK to say "blacks are more athletic "
But taboo to say why.
Or to say " Asians are smarter than Africans".
...I'm white, and throughout my life in the 70s and 80s, I had experienced much reverse discrimination.
Over and over the same cry: We would hire you if you were a minority or a woman.
I'm well aware of the folks pissing on my back telling me it's raining.
No more. ..
MAGA!

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Mar 12, 2019 12:16:01   #
JediKnight (a regular here)
 
Sonny Magoo wrote:
So it's OK to say "blacks are more athletic "
But taboo to say why.
Or to say " Asians are smarter than Africans".
...I'm white, and throughout my life in the 70s and 80s, I had experienced much reverse discrimination.
Over and over the same cry: We would hire you if you were a minority or a woman.
I'm well aware of the folks pissing on my back telling me it's raining.
No more. ..
MAGA!


Sonny: you are overlooking the fact that if the white man had not discriminated against ALL minorities because of greed there would have never been a need for affirmative action. You cry that you suffer from 'reverse discrimination' when you apparently have no clue what real 'discrimination' is. Now, you choose to support Trump and his racist dog-whistles -which is really only an excuse to be a racist. Grow up man.

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Mar 12, 2019 12:27:12   #
dongreen76 (a regular here)
 
JFlorio wrote:
I have found that if you run into someone who thinks whites got where they are just because they’re white ask them why and how white privilege started. You can get some interesting answers.


I know where white privilege started ; it started with the Advent of slavery, and with a decided populous advantage of white over black,it started with the implemention of that doctrine known as the Constitution,written with the intention of keeping a climate conducive to the growth and expansion of a `WIG'S " fat cat wallet [George Washington was more than a millionaire in 1776].....- excuse me -of business,there by creating jobs and the little guy getting the trickle down/sustenance

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Mar 12, 2019 13:05:49   #
Smedley_buzkill (a regular here)
 
dongreen76 wrote:
I know where white privilege started ; it started with the Advent of slavery, and with a decided populous advantage of white over black,it started with the implemention of that doctrine known as the Constitution,written with the intention of keeping a climate conducive to the growth and expansion of a `WIG'S " fat cat wallet [George Washington was more than a millionaire in 1776].....- excuse me -of business,there by creating jobs and the little guy getting the trickle down/sustenance


What about the slavery of black on black which existed in sub-Saharan Africa for a thousand years at least before the first White European ever set foot there? What about the slavery that STILL exists there? Slavery ended in this country in 1865, and it ended legally in Africa in 2007. Change the newspaper in your own damn birdcage before you criticize someone else. Nearly every slave imported into what became the US had already been enslaved by other blacks and sold to white slave traders, or to Arabs.

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Mar 12, 2019 13:17:48   #
Iliamna1 (a regular here)
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
What about the slavery of black on black which existed in sub-Saharan Africa for a thousand years at least before the first White European ever set foot there? What about the slavery that STILL exists there? Slavery ended in this country in 1865, and it ended legally in Africa in 2007. Change the newspaper in your own damn birdcage before you criticize someone else. Nearly every slave imported into what became the US had already been enslaved by other blacks and sold to white slave traders, or to Arabs.
What about the slavery of black on black which exi... (show quote)


Some of the first slave owners here in the USA were black. Slavery has existed since the beginning of time, and all races have been enslaved by someone at some point.

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