Mueller appointment unconstitutional.
Mar 8, 2019 17:47:08 #
PeterS wrote:
Question: Can Mueller be removed by the Attorney General or the Deputy AG? If so, then Mueller's position qualifies as an “inferior officer” and not subject to the appointment process. Any constitutional scholar should have known that...
I think you posted this before Blade and I am pretty sure the answer was the same then too. My question is how long before you repost this with the hopes that we liberals will have forgotten about it?
I think you posted this before Blade and I am pretty sure the answer was the same then too. My question is how long before you repost this with the hopes that we liberals will have forgotten about it?
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Mueller's appointment should have come from the President of the United States and must be confirmed by the Senate. Mueller served as a principal officer with nobody to report to, that was why his abuses of power was unlimited. Mueller's appointment violates Art 2 of the Executive Branch.
Because of all these illegalities, Mueller's decisions prosecuting so many people suspected of having worked for president Trump though went outside the scope of his authority.
All of these must be challenged. Then due to its illegalities, Mueller's decisions were all Null and Void in the eyes of the law.
Mar 8, 2019 21:50:48 #
Mar 9, 2019 13:42:47 #
PeterS wrote:
The one you conservatives know absolutely nothing about...
The one which, through God's grace, we Conservatives wrote, established, maintained, fought for, and have lived by against all obstacles, to this date.
Mar 9, 2019 21:30:21 #
Zemirah wrote:
Of course it was unconstitutional, and everyone has known it for over two years.
Constitution?
What Constitution?
Constitution?
What Constitution?
How can the appointment of a special council by the Justice Department be unconstitutional what article of the constitution are you talking about. It’s done all the time
Mar 10, 2019 01:52:37 #
PeterS wrote:
It's quite simple, Peter, president Trump did not appoint Mueller, the senate did not confirm him, DAG Rosenstein appointed Mueller, therefore, under the constitution, Mueller is an inferior officer, who can be fired by the officer who appointed him. Question: Can Mueller be removed by the Attorney General or the Deputy AG? If so, then Mueller's position qualifies as an “inferior officer” and not subject to the appointment process. Any constitutional scholar should have known that...
I think you posted this before Blade and I am pretty sure the answer was the same then too. My question is how long before you repost this with the hopes that we liberals will have forgotten about it?
I think you posted this before Blade and I am pretty sure the answer was the same then too. My question is how long before you repost this with the hopes that we liberals will have forgotten about it?
However, as Mark Levin, Andy McCarthy, Dan Bongino, Joe DiGenova and other former members of the DOJ and federal law enforcement have explained many times over, under the guise of being a counterintelligence investigation, Deputy AG Rosenstein handed the job to Mueller, gave him Carte Blanche, and pretty much ignored or shunned his duty to supervise Mueller and his investigation, basically Rosenstein did the old Pontius Pilate hand washing routine. This left Mueller free to do any damned thing he wanted to, including choosing some of most rabid l*****t anti-Trump lawyers to fill his hit squad and choosing suspects from every area of Trump's life, including ALL members of his family, and picking targets from among those with whom Donald Trump had personal and business relationships long before he even announced his candidacy for POTUS.
Even though constitutionally, Mueller is an inferior officer and an employee of the DOJ, he has assumed the powers of a principal officer equal to the Attorney General of the United States. Sessions relinquished his authority over Mueller when he recused himself, and Rosenstein did nothing to rein Mueller in.
In a nutshell, Mueller went rogue, his mandate was officially limited to a counterintelligence investigation, but he immediately began criminal investigations BEFORE he had any evidence that crimes had been committed. Mueller assumed investigative power well beyond the authority granted him by the constitution, the DOJ, and man who hired him. Yes, the Mueller investigation is unconstitutional, and because of that, under the rule of law of our nation, everything Mueller has done is null and void. The jury is still out on whether or not there are enough honest and principled high ranking officials in Washington to do anything about that. I have my doubts.
Mar 10, 2019 01:54:23 #
Zemirah wrote:
The one which, through God's grace, we Conservatives wrote, established, maintained, fought for, and have lived by against all obstacles, to this date.
Mar 10, 2019 03:34:31 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
It's quite simple, Peter, president Trump did not ... (show quote)
Mueller is an "inferior" officer so doesn't need to be appointed by the president or confirmed by the Senate. To understand that simply ask yourself if Mueller can be dismissed by the AG or his Deputy Attorney General. If the answer is yes then the position is known as inferior and no appointment by the president is necessary. If that were not the case the president would have to appoint everyone who had any investigatory power and he would still be trying to appoint his first cabinet...
And I know you fall over every word that comes out of Levins' mouth but Trump has enough legal talent around him that if this were true then Mueller would have been bounced long ago. Your hero worship of men that you hold in positions of authority is nauseating. You are guilty of an "appeal to authority" where we are supposed to accept the word of your constitutional "expert" even though he is dead wrong.
Again, this is the danger of a belief in logical fallacies because you accept as true something that is flatly false and you expect others to do the same. Sorry, unless you are in the realm of your fellow conservatives that simply isn't going to happen.
I'm sorry that you don't like who Rosenstein appointed but Rosenstein was a Trump appointment and was confirmed by a Republican Senate so either Trump is complicit in this conspiracy of yours or you are simply playing of your bias and use of fallacies to create a world that DOES NOT exist!!!
Mar 10, 2019 03:38:12 #
Radiance3 wrote:
================= br Mueller's appointment should ... (show quote)
Gosh, if only Trump had a legal team around him with the wherewithal to challenge what is clearly so obvious...
Since Mueller can be fired by the AG and Deputy AG he is in an "inferior" position not superior as you seem to think. Though I will give you credit for putting more thought into this than Blade you both are dead wrong...
Mar 10, 2019 03:39:20 #
Zemirah wrote:
The one which, through God's grace, we Conservatives wrote, established, maintained, fought for, and have lived by against all obstacles, to this date.
If that's the case then why don't you follow it?
Mar 10, 2019 03:50:12 #
PeterS wrote:
Mueller is an "inferior" officer so does... (show quote)
under the constitution, Mueller is an inferior officer, who can be fired by the officer who appointed him, by the AG or the president.
Even though constitutionally, Mueller is an inferior officer and an employee of the DOJ, he has assumed the powers of a principal officer equal to the Attorney General of the United States.
In a nutshell, Mueller went rogue, his mandate was officially limited to a counterintelligence investigation, but he immediately began criminal investigations BEFORE he had any evidence that crimes had been committed. Mueller assumed investigative power well beyond the authority granted him by the constitution, the DOJ, and man who hired him. Yes, the Mueller investigation is unconstitutional, and because of that, under the rule of law of our nation, everything Mueller has done is null and void. The jury is still out on whether or not there are enough honest and principled high ranking officials in Washington to do anything about that. I have my doubts.
Mar 10, 2019 10:10:07 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
It's quite simple, Peter, president Trump did not ... (show quote)
Yes Muellar was hired to investigate the Russian hacking and thats what he is doing. Nothing has been released by Muellar even though you want to believe that he is a Democrat even though he was a life long Republican. But it appears every time they track a Russian they find a a Trump advisor. Everytime the tap a Russian phone call on the other end theres a Trump advisor.
Muellar is investigating Trump invovlment with Russia if any other crimes come up he turns those crimes over to the states that have jurisdiction
But for two years 39 indictments the Muellar report has not been released but Trump has been attacking Mueller daily so what is Trump hiding.
Mar 10, 2019 11:21:01 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
So Levin thinks the President is above the law... Seems the Supreme Court may disagree... Trump has had more than enough time to end this investigation if he could legally ...its not like Trump doesn't have Constitutional lawyers working on this 24/7 for over a year... Pure propaganda piece to incite the right with more f**e news... For Trump to stop anything at this point would just prove guilt... only dictators are above the law...
Mar 10, 2019 13:15:24 #
emarine wrote:
So Levin thinks the President is above the law... Seems the Supreme Court may disagree... Trump has had more than enough time to end this investigation if he could legally ...its not like Trump doesn't have Constitutional lawyers working on this 24/7 for over a year... Pure propaganda piece to incite the right with more f**e news... For Trump to stop anything at this point would just prove guilt... only dictators are above the law...
You said it...ending the investigation would be bad politics.
Mar 10, 2019 17:34:38 #
Airforceone wrote:
How can the appointment of a special council by the Justice Department be unconstitutional what article of the constitution are you talking about. It’s done all the time
Because it was FRAUDULENTLY begun and it's a POLITICAL prosecution searching for a crime in order to effect a c**p against the duly appointed prezzz of the US.
Mar 10, 2019 18:40:17 #
Airforceone wrote:
Yes Muellar was hired to investigate the Russian hacking and thats what he is doing. Nothing has been released by Muellar even though you want to believe that he is a Democrat even though he was a life long Republican. But it appears every time they track a Russian they find a a Trump advisor. Everytime the tap a Russian phone call on the other end theres a Trump advisor....
Amazing huh? Could you describe any of those connections and what they mean?
Mewler is a g*******t. Republican and Democrat mean nothing to g*******ts.
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Muellar is investigating Trump invovlment with Russia if any other crimes come up he turns those crimes over to the states that have jurisdiction
1) Trump/Russia is BS to begin with and the people who did it committed crimes.
2) Mewler is stalling. He doesn't have sht he frame Trump on and their c**p failed!
3) Everything Mewler has done to hurt Trump will be done to the people who fomented this crap.
You'll see what I mean soon. Remember Flynn...the first notch in Mewler's gun?
I'll be laughing when you find out what his indictment means.
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But for two years 39 indictments...
39 indictments! What a joke! Mewler was able to indict some foreigners and functionaries along with a lobbyist! He could indict every lobbyist in Washington. He could indict you!
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the Muellar report has not been released...
...but would have leaked if it contained anything helpful to your criminal masters...
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...but Trump has been attacking Mueller daily...
So what? Mewler and the Global Cabal backing him are attacking Trump daily with every dirty, contemptable trick at their disposal...which means they're attacking ME!
If I was a billionaire in Trump's position I'd have probably had Mewler and a few others bumped off by now but Trump, obviously, is a more patient person than I am.
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so what is Trump hiding.
You're ridiculous! Trump is the most investigated prezzz ever!
What is Mewler trying to hide? That's what will come from this. The left and the Dems along with the quisling Republicans will regret their abuses.
Here's a heads up.
Now that Mewler is a bust (like everything else your chump-ass heroes have tried) the Dems have it in their heads to investigate Trump's finances LOOKING FOR ANYTHING THEY CAN FIND WITH NO SPECIFIC PREREQUISITE CRIME TO BASE THE INVESTIGATIONS ON.
You're really OK with police-state tactics like that? Kicking in people's doors; ignoring client/attorney privelege; holding people in solitary confinement; using false evidence to obtain warrants; going back through people's lives trying to find dirt because you don't like them personally or politically?
Wait until we start doing that. Wait until we start checking on Congress's financial history! Ooh la la what will we find?!
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