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Mar 7, 2019 00:36:10   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
I am a conservative with strong values, anyone who has read my posts knows that.

However, not all liberal ideas are bad ideas just like not all conservative ideas are good ideas.

But we are witnessing an attack on America that has been going on since Stalin had a standoff against the United States. The USA takes the powers from the earth, and creates new wealth. That is capitalism and democracy.

Socialism is a derivative of Marxism. When mixed with human greed, it creates a dictatorship. But that dictatorship only begins when the money runs out.

I asked a question a while back, which I would restate here: Would you rather have someone tell you that you are equal, or would you rather have the freedom to become equal?

Just because Jon Snow has the right to the Iron throne does not mean he will seek it. Is it better to fight the dead, then to rule over the living?(Game of Thrones reference)

Humans have a long history of k*****g each other over p***e, lust and greed. When a group of people are wanting to steal money from the rich and give it to the poor, then who is going to pay the worker for his labor?

Just like there will always be poor people, there also will always be rich people. But it must be known, that the rich is granted wealth to help the poor. The way that's done is in labor. But it seems once the poor become rich, they either throw the wealth away, or they horde it. Welcome to Greed. I simply don't see any benefit from robbing the rich to pay the poor.

I also don't see the benefit of the Democrat's hatred of Donald Trump.Did Trump lie, no. Did Hillary lie, possibly. Define a lie, and if there are 435 Representatives in the House, and 100 Senators in the Senate, and 1 president, and 9 justices, that makes 545 liars in Government?

There are some really good causes out there, one is border security, and a path for citizenship, but because of lust and greed, the government is doing nothing about it, why?

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Mar 7, 2019 00:44:35   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Freedom to be equal...

Good post..

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Mar 7, 2019 01:04:13   #
EconomistDon
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
I am a conservative with strong values, anyone who has read my posts knows that.

However, not all liberal ideas are bad ideas just like not all conservative ideas are good ideas.

But we are witnessing an attack on America that has been going on since Stalin had a standoff against the United States. The USA takes the powers from the earth, and creates new wealth. That is capitalism and democracy.

Socialism is a derivative of Marxism. When mixed with human greed, it creates a dictatorship. But that dictatorship only begins when the money runs out.

I asked a question a while back, which I would restate here: Would you rather have someone tell you that you are equal, or would you rather have the freedom to become equal?

Just because Jon Snow has the right to the Iron throne does not mean he will seek it. Is it better to fight the dead, then to rule over the living?(Game of Thrones reference)

Humans have a long history of k*****g each other over p***e, lust and greed. When a group of people are wanting to steal money from the rich and give it to the poor, then who is going to pay the worker for his labor?

Just like there will always be poor people, there also will always be rich people. But it must be known, that the rich is granted wealth to help the poor. The way that's done is in labor. But it seems once the poor become rich, they either throw the wealth away, or they horde it. Welcome to Greed. I simply don't see any benefit from robbing the rich to pay the poor.

I also don't see the benefit of the Democrat's hatred of Donald Trump.Did Trump lie, no. Did Hillary lie, possibly. Define a lie, and if there are 435 Representatives in the House, and 100 Senators in the Senate, and 1 president, and 9 justices, that makes 545 liars in Government?

There are some really good causes out there, one is border security, and a path for citizenship, but because of lust and greed, the government is doing nothing about it, why?
I am a conservative with strong values, anyone who... (show quote)


Very well said!!! And to elaborate on your rich and poor message, there will always be rich and poor, as long as socialism doesn't make us all poor. BUT, America's poor live like the upper class in many other countries. Our standard of living is higher than most countries in the world. Even in Europe, I am amazed at the sub-standard housing that most people have. The poor in America don't know how good they have it.





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Mar 7, 2019 05:11:01   #
badbob85037
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
I am a conservative with strong values, anyone who has read my posts knows that.

However, not all liberal ideas are bad ideas just like not all conservative ideas are good ideas.

But we are witnessing an attack on America that has been going on since Stalin had a standoff against the United States. The USA takes the powers from the earth, and creates new wealth. That is capitalism and democracy.

Socialism is a derivative of Marxism. When mixed with human greed, it creates a dictatorship. But that dictatorship only begins when the money runs out.

I asked a question a while back, which I would restate here: Would you rather have someone tell you that you are equal, or would you rather have the freedom to become equal?

Just because Jon Snow has the right to the Iron throne does not mean he will seek it. Is it better to fight the dead, then to rule over the living?(Game of Thrones reference)

Humans have a long history of k*****g each other over p***e, lust and greed. When a group of people are wanting to steal money from the rich and give it to the poor, then who is going to pay the worker for his labor?

Just like there will always be poor people, there also will always be rich people. But it must be known, that the rich is granted wealth to help the poor. The way that's done is in labor. But it seems once the poor become rich, they either throw the wealth away, or they horde it. Welcome to Greed. I simply don't see any benefit from robbing the rich to pay the poor.

I also don't see the benefit of the Democrat's hatred of Donald Trump.Did Trump lie, no. Did Hillary lie, possibly. Define a lie, and if there are 435 Representatives in the House, and 100 Senators in the Senate, and 1 president, and 9 justices, that makes 545 liars in Government?

There are some really good causes out there, one is border security, and a path for citizenship, but because of lust and greed, the government is doing nothing about it, why?
I am a conservative with strong values, anyone who... (show quote)


I guess you could call me a moderate. I h**e everybody.

"the government is doing nothing about it, why?" I live in Phoenix. When I look over my 6 foot block fence in the back yard you know what I see in the back yards of the three houses I can see? Large sheds not to store yard equipment or tables and chairs but families and you know why that is? Because they already have a family living in their garage. Every time I don't chain something up in my back yard it comes up missing. What I can't figure out is where do they find the room to store it.

When I drive home from work these same people are picking up boxes of food at the food bank. I know when they cross the border they are given a section 8 house, food stamps, child care, bus passes, job training, emergency cash, free medical treatment, a guarantee of not being deported, free education, free rest homes for their grandmas and grandpas and free job training.

I'm pretty sure at the border they are given, their choose of an ice cream truck to sell ice cream or a tricycle with a stainless steel box and a hand held horn like Harpo and Bozo used to peddle around selling corn. I know it was that dirty L*****t Napolitano that hung posters on the walls of all government buildings with large, gold, dollar signs in the back ground promising them all these free-bees. I know that dirty L*****t when she became governor our state was $2 billion in the black and when she skipped town with obama we were $2 billion in the red. The only thing I don't know is where they are getting these $50,000 new trucks they use to haul their boxes of food from the food bank. That is why government does nothing.

Plus they get a life time get out of jail free card that allows them to drive drunk without a license or insurance smashing and totaling cars and trucks then run like hell hiding their car under a tarp in their backyard they share with 30 other i******s. When caught they will be brought to a Phoenix police station and 10 minutes later walk out as free as a bird without so much as a parking ticket. Because if they were given a parking ticket they wouldn't pay it. The owner of the car or truck these drunks totaled is just s**t out of luck because the Phoenix cops are to stupid, corrupt, and lazy to do the paper work. My family alone has had both a car and truck trashed by these drunks Try getting an insurance company to pay with no report filed. That is also why government does nothing and why you find headless bodies littering high way 8.

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Mar 7, 2019 08:23:16   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
I am a conservative with strong values, anyone who has read my posts knows that.

However, not all liberal ideas are bad ideas just like not all conservative ideas are good ideas.

But we are witnessing an attack on America that has been going on since Stalin had a standoff against the United States. The USA takes the powers from the earth, and creates new wealth. That is capitalism and democracy.

Socialism is a derivative of Marxism. When mixed with human greed, it creates a dictatorship. But that dictatorship only begins when the money runs out.

I asked a question a while back, which I would restate here: Would you rather have someone tell you that you are equal, or would you rather have the freedom to become equal?

Just because Jon Snow has the right to the Iron throne does not mean he will seek it. Is it better to fight the dead, then to rule over the living?(Game of Thrones reference)

Humans have a long history of k*****g each other over p***e, lust and greed. When a group of people are wanting to steal money from the rich and give it to the poor, then who is going to pay the worker for his labor?

Just like there will always be poor people, there also will always be rich people. But it must be known, that the rich is granted wealth to help the poor. The way that's done is in labor. But it seems once the poor become rich, they either throw the wealth away, or they horde it. Welcome to Greed. I simply don't see any benefit from robbing the rich to pay the poor.

I also don't see the benefit of the Democrat's hatred of Donald Trump.Did Trump lie, no. Did Hillary lie, possibly. Define a lie, and if there are 435 Representatives in the House, and 100 Senators in the Senate, and 1 president, and 9 justices, that makes 545 liars in Government?

There are some really good causes out there, one is border security, and a path for citizenship, but because of lust and greed, the government is doing nothing about it, why?
I am a conservative with strong values, anyone who... (show quote)


Democrats and Republicans in Government, local State and Federal, are not there to solve problems and manage the people's business - they are there to get and keep power and line their own pockets.

True Liberals and Conservatives have more in common than they do differences, agree on where society needs to be, they diverge on how to get there. Liberalism, Conservatism, Capitalism, Socialism, all the "isms" have been hijacked by self centered and selfish people for their own nefarious purposes.

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Mar 7, 2019 08:40:55   #
Liberty Tree
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
I am a conservative with strong values, anyone who has read my posts knows that.

However, not all liberal ideas are bad ideas just like not all conservative ideas are good ideas.

But we are witnessing an attack on America that has been going on since Stalin had a standoff against the United States. The USA takes the powers from the earth, and creates new wealth. That is capitalism and democracy.

Socialism is a derivative of Marxism. When mixed with human greed, it creates a dictatorship. But that dictatorship only begins when the money runs out.

I asked a question a while back, which I would restate here: Would you rather have someone tell you that you are equal, or would you rather have the freedom to become equal?

Just because Jon Snow has the right to the Iron throne does not mean he will seek it. Is it better to fight the dead, then to rule over the living?(Game of Thrones reference)

Humans have a long history of k*****g each other over p***e, lust and greed. When a group of people are wanting to steal money from the rich and give it to the poor, then who is going to pay the worker for his labor?

Just like there will always be poor people, there also will always be rich people. But it must be known, that the rich is granted wealth to help the poor. The way that's done is in labor. But it seems once the poor become rich, they either throw the wealth away, or they horde it. Welcome to Greed. I simply don't see any benefit from robbing the rich to pay the poor.

I also don't see the benefit of the Democrat's hatred of Donald Trump.Did Trump lie, no. Did Hillary lie, possibly. Define a lie, and if there are 435 Representatives in the House, and 100 Senators in the Senate, and 1 president, and 9 justices, that makes 545 liars in Government?

There are some really good causes out there, one is border security, and a path for citizenship, but because of lust and greed, the government is doing nothing about it, why?
I am a conservative with strong values, anyone who... (show quote)


Liberals want everyone equal at the finish line. Conservatives want everyone equal at the starting line.

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Mar 7, 2019 11:16:14   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Liberals want everyone equal at the finish line. Conservatives want everyone equal at the starting line.


That isn't remotely true...............and you know it.

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Mar 8, 2019 05:53:49   #
debeda
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
I am a conservative with strong values, anyone who has read my posts knows that.

However, not all liberal ideas are bad ideas just like not all conservative ideas are good ideas.

But we are witnessing an attack on America that has been going on since Stalin had a standoff against the United States. The USA takes the powers from the earth, and creates new wealth. That is capitalism and democracy.

Socialism is a derivative of Marxism. When mixed with human greed, it creates a dictatorship. But that dictatorship only begins when the money runs out.

I asked a question a while back, which I would restate here: Would you rather have someone tell you that you are equal, or would you rather have the freedom to become equal?

Just because Jon Snow has the right to the Iron throne does not mean he will seek it. Is it better to fight the dead, then to rule over the living?(Game of Thrones reference)

Humans have a long history of k*****g each other over p***e, lust and greed. When a group of people are wanting to steal money from the rich and give it to the poor, then who is going to pay the worker for his labor?

Just like there will always be poor people, there also will always be rich people. But it must be known, that the rich is granted wealth to help the poor. The way that's done is in labor. But it seems once the poor become rich, they either throw the wealth away, or they horde it. Welcome to Greed. I simply don't see any benefit from robbing the rich to pay the poor.

I also don't see the benefit of the Democrat's hatred of Donald Trump.Did Trump lie, no. Did Hillary lie, possibly. Define a lie, and if there are 435 Representatives in the House, and 100 Senators in the Senate, and 1 president, and 9 justices, that makes 545 liars in Government?

There are some really good causes out there, one is border security, and a path for citizenship, but because of lust and greed, the government is doing nothing about it, why?
I am a conservative with strong values, anyone who... (show quote)


I agree with your position that all liberal ideas aren't bad just different. I would also like to say, tho, that as we become more polarized, the left's ideas are more "woowoo" and out there, while many on the right appear to be becoming more rigid. I also don't buy that Prez Trump is responsible for this polarization. We've been drifting left for decades, and I think people just ignored it, or didn't realize how bad it had become, until the Obama administration, with the bathroom wars and sheriffs being arrested for upholding laws on the books, and L**T joining the military for s*x c****e operations on the tax payers dime, and the influx of ME "refugees"....etc, etc. The thing is, how do we fix this?? Personally, I'm NOT on board with open borders, or sanctuary cities/states. I'm NOT on board with tax payer funding of a******n or of planned parenthood. I'm NOT on board with paying a "world tax" which monies will be redistributed to poorer nations to "reduce carbon emissions". I'm also NOT on board with supporting i*****l i*******ts to the tune of 100 billion dollars and climbing. So how in the world do we fix this divide, when the above is all the dems have to offer and their adherents will fight for same?

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Mar 8, 2019 05:55:10   #
debeda
 
EconomistDon wrote:
Very well said!!! And to elaborate on your rich and poor message, there will always be rich and poor, as long as socialism doesn't make us all poor. BUT, America's poor live like the upper class in many other countries. Our standard of living is higher than most countries in the world. Even in Europe, I am amazed at the sub-standard housing that most people have. The poor in America don't know how good they have it.


Good post! GREAT memes

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Mar 8, 2019 05:57:16   #
debeda
 
badbob85037 wrote:
I guess you could call me a moderate. I h**e everybody.

"the government is doing nothing about it, why?" I live in Phoenix. When I look over my 6 foot block fence in the back yard you know what I see in the back yards of the three houses I can see? Large sheds not to store yard equipment or tables and chairs but families and you know why that is? Because they already have a family living in their garage. Every time I don't chain something up in my back yard it comes up missing. What I can't figure out is where do they find the room to store it.

When I drive home from work these same people are picking up boxes of food at the food bank. I know when they cross the border they are given a section 8 house, food stamps, child care, bus passes, job training, emergency cash, free medical treatment, a guarantee of not being deported, free education, free rest homes for their grandmas and grandpas and free job training.

I'm pretty sure at the border they are given, their choose of an ice cream truck to sell ice cream or a tricycle with a stainless steel box and a hand held horn like Harpo and Bozo used to peddle around selling corn. I know it was that dirty L*****t Napolitano that hung posters on the walls of all government buildings with large, gold, dollar signs in the back ground promising them all these free-bees. I know that dirty L*****t when she became governor our state was $2 billion in the black and when she skipped town with obama we were $2 billion in the red. The only thing I don't know is where they are getting these $50,000 new trucks they use to haul their boxes of food from the food bank. That is why government does nothing.

Plus they get a life time get out of jail free card that allows them to drive drunk without a license or insurance smashing and totaling cars and trucks then run like hell hiding their car under a tarp in their backyard they share with 30 other i******s. When caught they will be brought to a Phoenix police station and 10 minutes later walk out as free as a bird without so much as a parking ticket. Because if they were given a parking ticket they wouldn't pay it. The owner of the car or truck these drunks totaled is just s**t out of luck because the Phoenix cops are to stupid, corrupt, and lazy to do the paper work. My family alone has had both a car and truck trashed by these drunks Try getting an insurance company to pay with no report filed. That is also why government does nothing and why you find headless bodies littering high way 8.
I guess you could call me a moderate. I h**e every... (show quote)


Holy SHIZNIT!!!! Was that allegorical or for real??

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Mar 8, 2019 05:58:20   #
debeda
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Democrats and Republicans in Government, local State and Federal, are not there to solve problems and manage the people's business - they are there to get and keep power and line their own pockets.

True Liberals and Conservatives have more in common than they do differences, agree on where society needs to be, they diverge on how to get there. Liberalism, Conservatism, Capitalism, Socialism, all the "isms" have been hijacked by self centered and selfish people for their own nefarious purposes.
Democrats and Republicans in Government, local Sta... (show quote)


Gotta agree with THAT! Term limits! NO government pension

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Mar 8, 2019 05:58:56   #
debeda
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Liberals want everyone equal at the finish line. Conservatives want everyone equal at the starting line.


GREAT way to put it

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Mar 8, 2019 11:40:30   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
debeda wrote:
I agree with your position that all liberal ideas aren't bad just different. I would also like to say, tho, that as we become more polarized, the left's ideas are more "woowoo" and out there, while many on the right appear to be becoming more rigid. I also don't buy that Prez Trump is responsible for this polarization. We've been drifting left for decades, and I think people just ignored it, or didn't realize how bad it had become, until the Obama administration, with the bathroom wars and sheriffs being arrested for upholding laws on the books, and L**T joining the military for s*x c****e operations on the tax payers dime, and the influx of ME "refugees"....etc, etc. The thing is, how do we fix this?? Personally, I'm NOT on board with open borders, or sanctuary cities/states. I'm NOT on board with tax payer funding of a******n or of planned parenthood. I'm NOT on board with paying a "world tax" which monies will be redistributed to poorer nations to "reduce carbon emissions". I'm also NOT on board with supporting i*****l i*******ts to the tune of 100 billion dollars and climbing. So how in the world do we fix this divide, when the above is all the dems have to offer and their adherents will fight for same?
I agree with your position that all liberal ideas ... (show quote)


Support Trump. He is about to end or reorganize the Federal Reserve and put us back on the gold standard. That is a major step in returning power to the people. Support Israel and thereby we will be blessed ourselves. Support tariffs as the main mechanism to fund our government (bi-lateral trade). V**e GOP and remove these evil Godless people from Congress. And pray, which is always the right thing to do.

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Mar 8, 2019 13:50:45   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
debeda wrote:
I agree with your position that all liberal ideas aren't bad just different. I would also like to say, tho, that as we become more polarized, the left's ideas are more "woowoo" and out there, while many on the right appear to be becoming more rigid. I also don't buy that Prez Trump is responsible for this polarization. We've been drifting left for decades, and I think people just ignored it, or didn't realize how bad it had become, until the Obama administration, with the bathroom wars and sheriffs being arrested for upholding laws on the books, and L**T joining the military for s*x c****e operations on the tax payers dime, and the influx of ME "refugees"....etc, etc. The thing is, how do we fix this?? Personally, I'm NOT on board with open borders, or sanctuary cities/states. I'm NOT on board with tax payer funding of a******n or of planned parenthood. I'm NOT on board with paying a "world tax" which monies will be redistributed to poorer nations to "reduce carbon emissions". I'm also NOT on board with supporting i*****l i*******ts to the tune of 100 billion dollars and climbing. So how in the world do we fix this divide, when the above is all the dems have to offer and their adherents will fight for same?
I agree with your position that all liberal ideas ... (show quote)


What an amazing post! This post should go v***l! What you posted is how I believe the majority of Americans are thinking. I may be conservative but that's not an end all be all. Most of us are not fully to the right or left. Most of us are moderates.

But there is now a generation of Americans who do not remember the past. As a result they are doomed to repeat it. What ashame!

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Mar 8, 2019 14:29:52   #
debeda
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
What an amazing post! This post should go v***l! What you posted is how I believe the majority of Americans are thinking. I may be conservative but that's not an end all be all. Most of us are not fully to the right or left. Most of us are moderates.

But there is now a generation of Americans who do not remember the past. As a result they are doomed to repeat it. What ashame!


TRUE STORY

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