Countdown: In 2017 Iran's capital unveiled a countdown clock for the total destruction of Israel. The time frame appears to stem from comments made in 2015 by Iran's supreme leader...

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In 2017 Iran's capital unveiled a countdown clock for the total destruction of Israel. The time frame appears to stem from comments made in 2015 by Iran's supreme leader, the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who said there would be "nothing" left of Israel by the year 2040. Less than 8,000 days.

Could it happen? Yes, if you happen to be a Pauline Christian. Luke 19:41-44 "As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it and said, “If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace—but now it is hidden from your eyes. The days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment against you and encircle you and hem you in on every side. They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of G*d’s coming to you.”

So, if Israel is destroyed, what does this mean to the situation in the Middle East?

rumitoid

Pennylynn wrote:

In 2017 Iran's capital unveiled a countdown clock ... (show quote)

My automatic response is less tension and probably lasting peace. Not something that I want by any means, but being prosaic I answered.

Minor point before I comment more fully: quoting Luke is not about being a Pauline Christian. Being a Pauline Christian is about accepting Paul's Epistles as part of the Gospel. Luke is not one of the Epistles but part of the synoptic Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke embraced by all Christians.

This is Pauline and probably not agreeable for you. Please read Gal4:22-26 and Heb12:22-23. Jerusalem's changing physical locations and its lack of representing all the Jewish nation is there in the Bible. Romans11:17-21 suggests that Christianity is the heavenly or symbolic Jerusalem in looking at the Olive Tree.

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rumitoid wrote:

My automatic response is less tension and probably... (show quote)

So.... you are saying that you do not want "last peace" in the Middle East. Plus you are saying that Israel is the father of all unrest in the Middle East. Interesting.

rumitoid

Pennylynn wrote:

So.... you are saying that you do not want "last peace" in the Middle East. Plus you are saying that Israel is the father of all unrest in the Middle East. Interesting.

Get a better translator, lol. According to Biblical prophecy, there will never be any "lasting peace" in that region until Christ returns; what I may want has no influence. Israel is surrounded by an enemy faith going back to Abraham, his son Ishmael. It is isolated. Prosaically speaking, if you removed this thorn from the Middle East there will likely be peace. Again, not what I want. And of course they may find other things to fight about, like denominations of Islam.

Yet let's consider the Jews claiming Israel as their rightful birthright and home. That is unprecedented chutzpah! Not unlike Black reparations. Or Native Americans claiming all the prairies as their nation. The world reeling from the atrocities of the Nazis and death camps, and the guilt they shared in not doing more sooner, was the impetus for one of the strangest things in history: letting an ancient people with no real claim on a land but sketchy Biblical accounts and no deeds of any sort, make it their own nation. Who was displaced or harmed by this action?

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rumitoid wrote:

Get a better translator, lol. According to Biblica... (show quote)

Your exact words "My automatic response is less tension and probably lasting peace. Not something that I want by any means..." No translator required.

Israel is not like the US or any other nation. You see, the Jews were buying land in this area (known a Southern Levant) before WWII.... With cash provided by donations and money of those wishing to resettle in a land of their own. Deeds and bills of sale are on file for anyone wanting to review them. America gave the Native Americans a very bad deal, and have paid yearly payments to the nations for over 150 years. As for blacks.... trillions have been handed to them.... So, how in your mind do these situations seem similar? Neither have tried to "buy" back land they claim.

There will be peace throughout the Middle East when the anointed one is born and fulfills prophecy.

rumitoid

Pennylynn wrote:

Your exact words "My automatic response is le... (show quote)

What Bible are you reading? By all accounts, Jerusalem will be utterly destroyed. But that will bring peace.

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rumitoid wrote:

What Bible are you reading? By all accounts, Jerusalem will be utterly destroyed. But that will bring peace.

Try reading the old testament and not just what Saul had to say. Some starting points: Isaiah; Zephaniah; Hosea; Amos; Micah; Zechariah; and Jeremiah 31:33-34.

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Pennylynn wrote:

In 2017 Iran's capital unveiled a countdown clock ... (show quote)

Are you referencing Jerusalem or Israel?

And, Israel the political entity or the people?

I don't imagine the destruction of Israel would do much to bring peace to the middle east...

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Pennylynn wrote:

So.... you are saying that you do not want "last peace" in the Middle East. Plus you are saying that Israel is the father of all unrest in the Middle East. Interesting.

Where did you get " Israel is the father of all unrest in the Middle East" from what Rumitoid wrote? It eludes me

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Pennylynn wrote:

Your exact words "My automatic response is le... (show quote)

Are you stating that Israel (the land) was purchased?

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rumitoid wrote:

Get a better translator, lol. According to Biblica... (show quote)

The native American thing I can see...
The Black reparations thing I fail to see the comparison....

Removing foreign armies from the middle East would go a long way to promoting peace...

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Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Are you stating that Israel (the land) was purchased?

Yes, much of it was bought before the Balfour Declaration. Starting in 1880 to the 1930s was located in the coastal plain area, including "Acre to the North and Rehovoth to the South, the Esdraelon (Jezreel) and Jordan Valleys and to the lesser extent in Galilee." Most of the purchases were made through Palestine Jewish Colonization Association (PJCA), Palestine Land Development Company and the Jewish National Fund.

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Pennylynn wrote:

Yes, much of it was bought before the Balfour Declaration. Starting in 1880 to the 1930s was located in the coastal plain area, including "Acre to the North and Rehovoth to the South, the Esdraelon (Jezreel) and Jordan Valleys and to the lesser extent in Galilee." Most of the purchases were made through Palestine Jewish Colonization Association (PJCA), Palestine Land Development Company and the Jewish National Fund.

What percentage of the land claimed today was purchased?
Interesting information...

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Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Where did you get " Israel is the father of all unrest in the Middle East" from what Rumitoid wrote? It eludes me

As a "professor" or "teacher" tell me.... what do you deduce from his statement "less tension and probably lasting peace"? And mind you, the topic is a countdown for the total destruction of Israel. So, I asked the question that you ignored.... are you say?????

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Pennylynn wrote:

As a "professor" or "teacher" tell me.... what do you deduce from his statement "less tension and probably lasting peace"? And mind you, the topic is a countdown for the total destruction of Israel. So, I asked the question that you ignored.... are you say?????

I took it to mean that there would be less conflict due to Israel being the source of much anger in the middle east...

What question did you ask that I ignored?

What's up with the quotation marks?
Are you sceptical as to my profession?

And what does "are you say?" mean?