The Bible is under attack by Atheists trying to remove it from this one important place (Page 41): In 1998, a study by Larson and Witham appeared on the leading journal Nature...

Nickolai

eagleye13 wrote:

Are you aware that most scientists believe in a creator/creationism.

In 1998, a study by Larson and Witham appeared on the leading journal Nature ("Leading scientists still reject God"), showing that of the American scientists who had been elected to the National Academy of Sciences, only about 7 percent believe in a personal god. Religious believers form about40 percent of the less eminent scientists in America.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Nickolai wrote:

I believe my foolishness as you describe because of the mountain of evidence that supports it. The idea that some sort of God exists s completely absent of any evidence it is just a Hypotheses. Science not backed with evidence is just a hypotheses. Only after observation, experimentation, and corroberation does the hypotheses become Scientific theory accepted science. Religion is all about feeling good. It is theraphy for the inards

I feel for ya, Nik, I really do. With such an extremely limited perspective on reality, it is a wonder that you even know what a scientific hypothesis is.

The Laws of Mathematics are fundamental to all scientific fields of study--from microbiology to astrophysics. Mathematics applies in art and music, we use math in some form or other every day and for many reasons.

The Laws of Mathematics applied to everything the moment the universe was created. The precision and phenomenal accuracy of mathematics has given all scientists the foundation for their chosen field and the tools with which to explore it. Behind the precision of mathematics and its universal applications lies an intelligence. The Laws of Mathematics did not fashion themselves out of some sort of primordial soup, they were in play long before there ever was a primordial soup, and something with an incredible mind put them there.

"Religion is all about feeling good." Do you have a problem with feeling good?

Now, what about this "mountain of evidence that supports it"? Supports what? Are you implying that you have a mountain of evidence that proves God does not exist?

Nickolai

Blade_Runner wrote:

I feel for ya, Nik, I really do. With such an extr... (show quote)

https://youtu.be/KOXm7W8f6wo

Take a peep into the Stellar Nursery Orion Nebula where young hotly burning young stars have formed in the last one million years and scores of proto stars are in various stages of forming.
They are called proplyds
No I have no problem with feeling good. I am fortunate I always feel good. I feel bad for people who suffer from depression It must be terrible. It leads to so many suicides so depression must be horrific I wouldn't know I don't suffer from that condition so I can thank my lucky stars. And no I don't have any mountain of evidence that proves God doesn't exist. I never said God doesn't exist All's I'm saying is I don't believe, that I have seen no evidence I know all about the Mathematical laws of the universe, but that is not proof of a god of the bible that watches every thing we do and is obsessed with our sex lives and has a plan for every human being that ever live. And an intelligence may or may not lie behind the physical laws of the Universe. Even if there is a god I don't think it would throw me in to a fire to burn till the end of time just because I don't believe it.

Yes I agree the Physical laws were in place long before the primordial soup there is little doubt. Who knows --we know that the early universe had no stars and galaxies for a long period of time estimated to be possibly 300 million years the universe was just gas c*********d of 75 % hydrogen and 25 % Helium with no heavy elements so maybe the universe is part of an experiment in a giant lab In a greater universe and our universe is a giant test tube--who knows. We know the universe was around 9-10 billion years old before our local star began forming out of a nebula of gas dust and debris from older exploded stars and that the heavy elements on our planet was formed in the core of these older stars and some were formed when the explosion occurred and no where else did these heavy elements form The iron in the iron core of our own planet was formed in this manner.

Interestingly Scientist believe when Earth was first formed there was only about 200 minerals on the early planet---with Rocks interacting with the evolution of organic life--- today there are 5,000 minerals on earth all created by the evolution of life over the last 4 billion years and we know the first life was a single cell, and formed not long after the planet cooled enough for water to condense and fall to earth. Life was well under way by 3.8 billion years ago

CounterRevolutionary

Nickolai wrote:

https://youtu.be/KOXm7W8f6wo

Take a peep into the Stellar Nursery Orion Nebula where young hotly burning young stars have formed in the last one million years and scores of proto stars are in various stages of forming.
They are called proplyds
No I have no problem with feeling good. I am fortunate I always feel good. I feel bad for people who suffer from depression It must be terrible. It leads to so many suicides so depression must be horrific I wouldn't know I don't suffer from that condition so I can thank my lucky stars. And no I don't have any mountain of evidence that proves God doesn't exist. I never said God doesn't exist All's I'm saying is I don't believe, that I have seen no evidence I know all about the Mathematical laws of the universe, but that is not proof of a god of the bible that watches every thing we do and is obsessed with our sex lives and has a plan for every human being that ever live. And an intelligence may or may not lie behind the physical laws of the Universe. Even if there is a god I don't think it would throw me in to a fire to burn till the end of time just because I don't believe it.

Yes I agree the Physical laws were in place long before the primordial soup there is little doubt. Who knows --we know that the early universe had no stars and galaxies for a long period of time estimated to be possibly 300 million years the universe was just gas c*********d of 75 % hydrogen and 25 % Helium with no heavy elements so maybe the universe is part of an experiment in a giant lab In a greater universe and our universe is a giant test tube--who knows. We know the universe was around 9-10 billion years old before our local star began forming out of a nebula of gas dust and debris from older exploded stars and that the heavy elements on our planet was formed in the core of these older stars and some were formed when the explosion occurred and no where else did these heavy elements form The iron in the iron core of our own planet was formed in this manner.

Interestingly Scientist believe when Earth was first formed there was only about 200 minerals on the early planet---with Rocks interacting with the evolution of organic life--- today there are 5,000 minerals on earth all created by the evolution of life over the last 4 billion years and we know the first life was a single cell, and formed not long after the planet cooled enough for water to condense and fall to earth. Life was well under way by 3.8 billion years ago

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Nickolai, you write:
"We know the universe was around 9-10 billion years old before our local star began forming out of a nebula of gas dust and debris from older exploded stars... Life was well under way [on Earth] by 3.8 billion years ago."

Ok, so let's do the math. According to Darwin's theory on evolution, random se******n of genes to create a human being from a one celled animal swimming in Earth's primortal soup has been estimated by bio-chemists to take One Trillion Years raised to the 27th power, On paper, that's the number 1,000,000,000,000 followed by an additional 312 zeros.

How did we evolve in such a short time, just 3,800,000,000 years on Earth, or even during the past 10 billion years since the Big Bang?

Are we the result of an Intelligent Design and an Intelligent Designer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxh9o32m5c0
Darwin's dilemma

Nickolai

CounterRevolutionary wrote:

Nickolai, you write: br "We know the universe... (show quote)

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https://youtu.be/qNtQwUO9ff8

A partial explanation maybe. All of the creatures that appear in the Cambrian ae extinct or have evolved into other creatures 99 % of everything that ever lived is extinct so Creation would require constant creation to replace the creatures with new ones. The great dying during the Permian 80 to 90 % of all life on land and in the sea became extinct It took 10 million years to recover ut the small reptiles that survived evolved in to Dinosaures birds and mammals

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

CounterRevolutionary wrote:

Nickolai, you write: br "We know the universe... (show quote)

Darwins Delima is based upon the notion that we know how life began. We do not.

CounterRevolutionary

Nickolai wrote:

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Ah, so you support Stephen J. Gould's theories on cataclysms? Take a look at this article nullifying the expansion theories on Big Bang. How can you rule out Intelligent Design?

What happened before the Big Bang?
By EarthSky in Space | March 27, 2019
https://earthsky.org/space/what-happened-before-the-big-bang

"How can we get an inkling of what existed before our universe began? Scientists at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics suggest a way....

Can we get an inkling of what existed before our universe began? Some theories suggest that, before the Big Bang, wh**ever existed was contracting, rather than expanding, as our universe is today. Perhaps what was contracting was an earlier universe, for example. If so, what we perceive as a Big Bang was actually a part of a Big Bounce. But a popular theory of our universe, called the inflation theory, doesn’t call for the idea of a previously contracting universe.

So what if inflation theory could be proven false? If so, the door would open to other theories, some of which do suggest a state of contraction before our universe began. If inflation theory could be proven false, we’d have some potential to probe – via these other theories – the universe before the Big Bang.

Now a team of scientists at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA) has laid out a method that might be used to falsify inflation experimentally. The study will appear in the physics journal Physical Review Letters as an Editors’ Suggestion...."

This entire article is a good read and in layman's terms for us common folks. These CfA astronomers propose designing a cosmic clock amongst the microwaves in the background of our universe to measure the expanding and collapsing universes over a constant time tracking some sort of heavy proton as a market. It's all rather fascinating, making it possible for a reincarnation of the universe and life, impossible without an Intelligent Designer and reinforcing Nickolas Wade's theories that our knowledge of God is engrained into our DNA.

"The Faith Instinct" (2009), argues that because of the survival advantage of religion, an instinct for religious behavior was favored by natural se******n among early human societies and became universal in all their descendants.

Nickolas Wade is the former science editor for the New York Times and an artist, illustrator of wildlife and natural fauna in the Western Hemisphere. His books are most intriguing and evocative.

CounterRevolutionary

nwtk2007 wrote:

Darwins Delima is based upon the notion that we know how life began. We do not.

Huh, have you watched the film? Check out the Discover Institute in Seattle.
The film exposes the flaws in Darwin's theory of evolution of natural se******n using random mutations over an impossible time period. It's not just a science problem in genetics but a math problem.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

CounterRevolutionary wrote:

Huh, have you watched the film? Check out the Discover Institute in Seattle.
The film exposes the flaws in Darwin's theory of evolution of natural se******n using random mutations over an impossible time period. It's not just a science problem in genetics but a math problem.

Like I said. They are making assumptions about things which we know little about but only conjecture. The mechanisms of genetic and chromosomal change are just now becoming apparent and new things are discovered yearly. We are children in our knowledge of the field at that level. And don't assume I am ignorant of it all. I knew the guy who predicted the presence of DNA repair enzymes based upon some of that; mutation rates and such. He was a physicist and teamed up with a molecular biologist and they went out and found it, photolyase, the first repair enzyme ever discovered and isolated.

Suffice it to say, interesting numbers with out mechanism-al knowledge, if that is, indeed, a word.