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Mar 20, 2019 15:03:56   #
Nickolai
 
JediKnight wrote:
You wake up each day only because the Lord God allows it to happen. Were God to remove His 'breath of life' from you - you would die in your sin. The sun shines, rain falls, and nature blooms only because God allows it to happen -and because He is merciful - all of His goodness is available to all - the good, the bad, and the ugly.






So Your one of those persons who believe god is pulling all the strings and we are just puppets dancing on the end of the strings, and the puppet master has a plan for each of us and knowns what going to happen before it happens. With the vastness of the universe don't you think this demon would have more important things to do than obsess over us teency wency human beans

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Mar 20, 2019 15:07:44   #
Nickolai
 
JediKnight wrote:
EXACTLY! I get the impression that Nik sits alone in the darkness denying God simply because "God didn't do what I wanted Him to do" -totally not understanding and overlooking that God blesses him with life each day just like the rest of us -even though he claims not to believe. Every so-called "atheist" that I have come across will still scream "Oh God!" in the split second before a tragic car wreck or even a slip and fall. I pray for those such as Nik - but I also accept that for some only Christ Himself through the Holy Spirit will reach them.
EXACTLY! I get the impression that Nik sits alone ... (show quote)






When I was in a collision I exclaimed holy shit !!!! The other guy was killed and the flying spaghetti monster spared me

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Mar 20, 2019 18:01:55   #
JediKnight (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
So Your one of those persons who believe god is pulling all the strings and we are just puppets dancing on the end of the strings, and the puppet master has a plan for each of us and knowns what going to happen before it happens. With the vastness of the universe don't you think this demon would have more important things to do than obsess over us teency wency human beans


Nickolai - either you are a "willful idiot" or just plain demented. I will still pray for you, but I believe you to simply be a lost cause with a depraved mind. Peace be unto you.

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Mar 20, 2019 18:21:38   #
Blade_Runner (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
Yes I agree that the bible is the most influential book ever written but I fail to see how it changed the world. The old testament in addition to Judaism spawned two montheistic and hugely expansionary religions Christianity and Islam. The bible didn't stop the blood bath of the Christian Crusades, It didnt stop the inquisitions thart tortured people into confessing to being a heritic and naming those who were in it with them. so they could be arrested by the religious authorities and tortured into doing the same.


It didn't stop Islams repeated incursions into Europe as part of its expansionary nature. It didnt stop the witch burnnings. Even now a Catholic High school in Kentucky has 33 cases of chicken pox because so many refuse to be vacinated over their religious beliefs
Yes I agree that the bible is the most influential... (show quote)

24 million, Nik, give or take. Bible scholars crunched the numbers, they went through the entire Bible and added up all deaths noted, in addition, they calculated all deaths recorded that occurred under the banner of Christianity from the beginning of the church to the present--this included the deaths in the inquisitions, the crusades, the Catholic persecutions of Protestants in England and elsewhere, and all other such events right up to today. Throughout the 7000 year history of Judeo-Christianity, 24 million is the total number of deaths from ALL causes--natural, disease, crime, famine, executions and war.

In its 1400 year history, Islam has murdered 292 million people, Jews, Christians, infidels, and many of their own. That is more people than were killed in all of the wars in the 20th century.

Nickolai wrote:
No I do not. The bible is not a history book it is a book allegorical tales that carry a moral message to the reader. Very few real stories fall into that category. But the Bible is not the reason I'm an atheist. I am such because I have seen no evidence that any such Deity exists
Questions, Nik, every time you post, you leave us with nothing but questions. Head scratching questions, like where does this guy come up with this crap?

If the Bible is not the reason you are an atheist, then why is the Bible such a problem for you? Why is it necessary for you to constantly denigrate it, deny its relevance, and make all kinds of weird claims that it is allegory or fiction, a forgery and a fake? Is this how you rationalize your disbelief?

You say you "have seen no evidence that any such Deity (God) exists". Are you even looking for such evidence? If so, through what lens? Your eyes? Are the eyes and the other four senses your sole connection to all that exists in this magnificent universe? Or, is it possible that humans have an innate ability to "see" things beyond the visual spectrum? Wavelengths on the electromagnetic spectrum range from a fraction of the size of the atomic nucleus up to several thousand kilometers. What we see with our eyes, the visual range, runs from 380 to 740 nanometers--a total of 360 nanometers.

If you are looking for evidence of God's existence on 1/100,000,000,000,000ths of the electromagnetic spectrum, you have put extreme limitations on your search parameters. You won't "see" such evidence under a microscope or through a telescope. The eyes, as with the other four senses, are capable of perceiving only what allows us to function as a physical creature in the physical world.

The human spirit, Nik, is the "eye" that "sees" God, connects us to Him, and Him to us, but since you have apparently rejected the spiritual nature of human beings, you have effectively disqualified yourself as a credible authority on whether or not God exists, on the Bible, and on religion in general.

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Mar 20, 2019 20:44:49   #
Nickolai
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Questions, Nik, every time you post, you leave us with nothing but questions. Head scratching questions, like where does this guy come up with this crap?

If the Bible is not the reason you are an atheist, then why is the Bible such a problem for you? Why is it necessary for you to constantly denigrate it, deny its relevance, and make all kinds of weird claims that it is allegory or fiction, a forgery and a fake? Is this how you rationalize your disbelief?

You say you "have seen no evidence that any such Deity (God) exists". Are you even looking for such evidence? If so, through what lens? Your eyes? Are the eyes and the other four senses your sole connection to all that exists in this magnificent universe? Or, is it possible that humans have an innate ability to "see" things beyond the visual spectrum? Wavelengths on the electromagnetic spectrum range from a fraction of the size of the atomic nucleus up to several thousand kilometers. What we see with our eyes, the visual range, runs from 380 to 740 nanometers--a total of 360 nanometers.

If you are looking for evidence of God's existence on 1/100,000,000,000,000ths of the electromagnetic spectrum, you have put extreme limitations on your search parameters. You won't "see" such evidence under a microscope or through a telescope. The eyes, as with the other four senses, are capable of perceiving only what allows us to function as a physical creature in the physical world.

The human spirit, Nik, is the "eye" that "sees" God, connects us to Him, and Him to us, but since you have apparently rejected the spiritual nature of human beings, you have effectively disqualified yourself as a credible authority on whether or not God exists, on the Bible, and on religion in general.
Questions, Nik, every time you post, you leave us ... (show quote)






I don't claim to be an authority on God I just don't believe in worshiping invisible beings and I believe that with or without religion good men or women will do good things and bad people will do bad things. The bible is just a main symbol of monotheistic religion from which preachers cherry pick the good stuff and ignore the bad. Actually Religion had been in my rearview mirror since I discovered science in High school and figured it was a matter of education that once people discovered the truth about how our sun and its solar system was formed and that other stars and their solar systems were being formed and there was no Hebrew standing in space commanding that somebody turn on the lights Religion would wind up in the dust bin of history. Billy Graham was going round holding big rallies saving souls but It was OK because he stayed clear of Politics. Then came the final flip of the two parties and Jerry Falwell with his moral majority and Pat Robinson with his Christian Coalition leading the way for millions of Democratic voters in the south to jump from the Democratic to the Republican party and suddenly Religion became relevant again in a big way. That block which had not voted as a block before began voting Republican by over 85 %. I was raised to believe in the separation of church and state. I had been regestrated Republican since 1958 but the flip led to me fleeing that party and left me with a bitter taste. Even today Evangelicals support the corrupt Donald J Trump by 66 %. Biggest bunch of hypocrits ever walked the earth

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Mar 22, 2019 21:47:35   #
4430 (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
Jesus said in Mark 9:42-48 That it is better to commit suicide or self maiming then to be delivered unto hell. So, according to the bible I assume that all here can agree that there is an existence of hell, and that hell is the worst of all circumstance. Knowing this, let me indulge you as to why the existence of hell paints the Christian God as not fit for worshiping.


Why didn't you complete the scripture as to God's reason ?

See it's all about picking bits and pieces and twist and turn the scriptures to convince yourself that you are right !

According to what you wrote it's fine for someone to do bad things to little kids but it's bad for God to condemn them to enteral damnation !

There's a day coming when your foolishness will be made known to you and therefore suffer the consequences !

You are fooling no one but yourself

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Mar 23, 2019 13:53:38   #
JediKnight (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
When I was in a collision I exclaimed holy shit !!!! The other guy was killed and the flying spaghetti monster spared me


I have been instructed by the Holy Spirit to 'wash my hands of you' and 'shake the dust from off my feet.' With that being said, all I can leave you with is: May the Lord God Almighty have mercy on this poor wretched soul we know as Nickolai. He foolishly plays with and twists the very words of God at the risk of losing his eternal soul. To God be the glory, in the name of Jesus. amen.

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Mar 23, 2019 15:49:02   #
Nickolai
 
JediKnight wrote:
I have been instructed by the Holy Spirit to 'wash my hands of you' and 'shake the dust from off my feet.' With that being said, all I can leave you with is: May the Lord God Almighty have mercy on this poor wretched soul we know as Nickolai. He foolishly plays with and twists the very words of God at the risk of losing his eternal soul. To God be the glory, in the name of Jesus. amen.






No body has a soul when we die we are dead just like any other mammal The only thing that separates us from our ape cousins is the frontal lobe of our brains otherwise we are biologically the same and separate from the Chimps genetically by only 1.2 % do they get to go to heaven too if they believe in Jesus. Should we try and teach then that god came down from the sky in the form of his son got him self nailed to a chunk of wood to save us from himself then got up and went back up to the sky and if they believe it they will get to go to a place called heaven to live at the foot of god where the streets are paved with gold and the sun shines fore ever and if they do not accept this tale they will be thrown in to hell fire and brimstone to burn and choke and scream until the end of time. A hell of a punishment for not believing that BS

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Mar 23, 2019 16:43:04   #
4430 (a regular here)
 
JediKnight wrote:
I have been instructed by the Holy Spirit to 'wash my hands of you' and 'shake the dust from off my feet.' With that being said, all I can leave you with is: May the Lord God Almighty have mercy on this poor wretched soul we know as Nickolai. He foolishly plays with and twists the very words of God at the risk of losing his eternal soul. To God be the glory, in the name of Jesus. amen.


I'm with ya Jed Nicky has really become a boring old man who will upon his death will finally get his answer is God real and then off to the pit created for the Devil and his minions with Nicky right there in the middle of them !

Crying out WHY WHY WHY didn't I listen WHY WHY WHY was I such a Fool !

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Mar 23, 2019 16:52:40   #
Blade_Runner (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
No body has a soul when we die we are dead just like any other mammal The only thing that separates us from our ape cousins is the frontal lobe of our brains otherwise we are biologically the same and separate from the Chimps genetically by only 1.2 % do they get to go to heaven too if they believe in Jesus. Should we try and teach then that god came down from the sky in the form of his son got him self nailed to a chunk of wood to save us from himself then got up and went back up to the sky and if they believe it they will get to go to a place called heaven to live at the foot of god where the streets are paved with gold and the sun shines fore ever and if they do not accept this tale they will be thrown in to hell fire and brimstone to burn and choke and scream until the end of time. A hell of a punishment for not believing that BS
No body has a soul when we die we are dead just li... (show quote)


Essentially, Nik, in believing that human life is no more valuable, no more meaningful, than that of an ape or a snake, you have cheapened ALL life on earth, including the lives of apes and snakes. Devaluation of human life is inherent in liberal progressive ideology. Progressivism. socialism, Marxism, fascism are all close relatives of Communism, and of course all are atheistic systems. Rank and file human beings are subjects of the government, not citizens of a nation. You will be assimilated, resistance is futile, your life is very cheap, it has only one purpose, you are part of the collective.

How cheap is a human life, Nik? If we could ask the millions of unborn babies murdered every year, what would they say?

As for the rest of your post, it is not possible to respond to such childish nonsense.

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Mar 23, 2019 22:45:58   #
Nickolai
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Essentially, Nik, in believing that human life is no more valuable, no more meaningful, than that of an ape or a snake, you have cheapened ALL life on earth, including the lives of apes and snakes. Devaluation of human life is inherent in liberal progressive ideology. Progressivism. socialism, Marxism, fascism are all close relatives of Communism, and of course all are atheistic systems. Rank and file human beings are subjects of the government, not citizens of a nation. You will be assimilated, resistance is futile, your life is very cheap, it has only one purpose, you are part of the collective.

How cheap is a human life, Nik? If we could ask the millions of unborn babies murdered every year, what would they say?

As for the rest of your post, it is not possible to respond to such childish nonsense.
Essentially, Nik, in believing that human life is ... (show quote)






Of course human life is more valuable than a snake or an ape. How on earth does the truth cheapen all life on earth ?? I don't follow your logic. Communism is an extreme form of socialism. But it was this form that allowed our hunter gather ancestors to survive the carnivors on the savannas of Eastern Africa. With the great east African rift pushing up a mountin range and cutting off the pervailing rain storms sweep in from the Atlantic and across Africa the forest began recedng and the savanna spreading, the tree dwelling rimates had to find a new way of making a living or become extinct. That meant comming down from the tree and moving cross the open savanna to another tree for food Those who could stand up could see over the blades of grass and spot carnivors had an evolutionary advantage and a better chance to survive to reproduce and pass those advantagous genes to the next generation. Secondly those who worked in cooperation with others stood a better chance of surviving. Loners soon became lunch and through this cooperation pre humans became social animals and even after becomming human we retain this chateristic o this day . It is the natural order

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Mar 25, 2019 13:56:47   #
JediKnight (a regular here)
 
4430 wrote:
I'm with ya Jed Nicky has really become a boring old man who will upon his death will finally get his answer is God real and then off to the pit created for the Devil and his minions with Nicky right there in the middle of them !

Crying out WHY WHY WHY didn't I listen WHY WHY WHY was I such a Fool !


4430 - yes, I am convinced that Nicky gets some kind of thrill -possibly the only attention he gets in life - by posting one insane comment after another. Notice he meets every attempt to honestly explain God and reality with a new form of foolish conjecture - but never directly responds with "why" he believes the foolishness he claims to believe? Scripture teaches that "many will be given over to a depraved mind" - and it is my belief that only Christ himself can save them. sad.

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Mar 25, 2019 16:02:07   #
Nickolai
 
JediKnight wrote:
4430 - yes, I am convinced that Nicky gets some kind of thrill -possibly the only attention he gets in life - by posting one insane comment after another. Notice he meets every attempt to honestly explain God and reality with a new form of foolish conjecture - but never directly responds with "why" he believes the foolishness he claims to believe? Scripture teaches that "many will be given over to a depraved mind" - and it is my belief that only Christ himself can save them. sad.
4430 - yes, I am convinced that Nicky gets some ki... (show quote)







I believe my foolishness as you describe because of the mountain of evidence that supports it. The idea that some sort of God exists s completely absent of any evidence it is just a Hypotheses. Science not backed with evidence is just a hypotheses. Only after observation, experimentation, and corroberation does the hypotheses become Scientific theory accepted science. Religion is all about feeling good. It is theraphy for the inards

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Mar 25, 2019 16:05:52   #
eagleye13 (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
I believe my foolishness as you describe because of the mountain of evidence that supports it. The idea that some sort of God exists s completely absent of any evidence it is just a Hypotheses. Science not backed with evidence is just a hypotheses. Only after observation, experimentation, and corroberation does the hypotheses become Scientific theory accepted science. Religion is all about feeling good. It is theraphy for the inards


Are you aware that most scientists believe in a creator/creationism.

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Mar 25, 2019 18:02:05   #
Nickolai
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Are you aware that most scientists believe in a creator/creationism.






Is it true that 93% of top scientists in the US are atheists? Why? Well, the simple answer to why they are atheists is that they simply don’t believe in god.

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