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Mar 5, 2019 16:32:58   #
Kazudy
 
PeterS wrote:
I thought three religions centered around the god represented by the bible? You conservatives always try to make this atheism vs Christianity when the battle is against all religion and their filtration into our political system. And your heart is towards the center of your chest not on the left side so a steel covered bible would have done little to keep a bullet from going through your heart.

Myself, I could give a flip about how the Bible is represented and I find no offense in conservatives hyper need to have the book on public display by our government. In another hundred years, it will fade away all on its own. You are welcome to try to prop it up but religion simply is on a downward trend, in this country and all across the world. I think atheists fixate on that which they need not worry about and it just gives fuel to you CC's--fuel there is no need to give when the t***h is religion in this world simply can't be saved...
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We just don't want others telling us what religion we can or can not have. I am a Bible beliver, if I had the power to shut down Muslim Musks and Morman Temples I WOULD NOT!!! They have the same freedom to worship wh**ever or whoever they please. I want that same freedom for Christians. By the way, why is the Christian religion the one most targeted by the left?

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Mar 5, 2019 16:37:31   #
bahmer
 
Kazudy wrote:
We just don't want others telling us what religion we can or can not have. I am a Bible beliver, if I had the power to shut down Muslim Musks and Morman Temples I WOULD NOT!!! They have the same freedom to worship wh**ever or whoever they please. I want that same freedom for Christians. By the way, why is the Christian religion the one most targeted by the left?


Because they don't like hearing that what they are doing is a sin and goes against God and His teachings would be my guess. Being a bible believer that is the only thing that I can come up with.

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Mar 5, 2019 16:42:37   #
Rose42
 
Kazudy wrote:
We just don't want others telling us what religion we can or can not have. I am a Bible beliver, if I had the power to shut down Muslim Musks and Morman Temples I WOULD NOT!!! They have the same freedom to worship wh**ever or whoever they please. I want that same freedom for Christians. By the way, why is the Christian religion the one most targeted by the left?


Why? Because there is a power in Christianity that exists in no other religion. Ever wonder why people use the name Jesus or Christ when they swear and never Allah, Budda or any other god? Because there is power in the name. There is no power in Allah, Budda or other gods because they are false gods.

The reason is spiritual. Spiritual warfare is very real.

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Mar 5, 2019 16:46:07   #
bahmer
 
Rose42 wrote:
Why? Because there is a power in Christianity that exists in no other religion. Ever wonder why people use the name Jesus or Christ when they swear and never Allah, Budda or any other god? Because there is power in the name. There is no power in Allah, Budda or other gods because they are false gods.

The reason is spiritual. Spiritual warfare is very real.


Very good Rose that one slipped my mind.

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Mar 5, 2019 17:12:29   #
Kazudy
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
It is not possible for an unbeliever to understand the Bible . . . it's His letter to his people. It's kind of like a stranger reading some else's mail. You may get the gist of the message, but never the underlying depth of the message. There are many things that are only spiritual discerned by the leading of the Holy Spirit.
Too many pearls are cast before swine. All they can do is root around in the mire and trample on them.


Iiiamma 1/2, you could not be more wrong. Many and I mean in the high hundreds that were in prison for violent crimes read the Bible out of curiousity or wh**ever reason and started sharing with other inmates, some of them started prison ministries one famous one was Charles"Chuck"Colsen one of Nixon's lawyer of Watergate fame. I can tell you this, my parents took me to Church when I was a kid and the minister's sermon would go in one ear and out the other. In 1993 I decided to read the Bible from cover to cover and I felt that it was T***h so everybody is free to read it, some will accept it others will reject it. Either way it is the individuals choice for people to accept it or reject it. It's not the atheist poragative to deny people that choice. One question for the atheist, if God doesn't exist, WHY are they offended by Him?

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Mar 5, 2019 17:34:52   #
Iliamna1
 
Kazudy wrote:
Iiiamma 1/2, you could not be more wrong. Many and I mean in the high hundreds that were in prison for violent crimes read the Bible out of curiousity or wh**ever reason and started sharing with other inmates, some of them started prison ministries one famous one was Charles"Chuck"Colsen one of Nixon's lawyer of Watergate fame. I can tell you this, my parents took me to Church when I was a kid and the minister's sermon would go in one ear and out the other. In 1993 I decided to read the Bible from cover to cover and I felt that it was T***h so everybody is free to read it, some will accept it others will reject it. Either way it is the individuals choice for people to accept it or reject it. It's not the atheist poragative to deny people that choice. One question for the atheist, if God doesn't exist, WHY are they offended by Him?
Iiiamma 1/2, you could not be more wrong. Many and... (show quote)


I agree wiith your post nearly 100%. The number is more likely in the multiple thousands As an unbeliever, when you first started reading the Bible, you didn't understand much of it. But you understood that you were a sinner and BELIEVED that Jesus died for your sin, just as Colson did. I never heard the Gospel as teenager, but had started on a quest to learn about God and came across Rev 3:20 which states "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me." My belief was an understanding that IF there is a God, He has to faithful to His word. As an unbeliever, it was my perogative to believe Him or reject Him. I chose to believe. It was life-changing experience as there was no one there to explain that the Holy Spirit actually comes inside your heart at the moment of belief. Life has been blessedly and strangely interesting since.

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Mar 5, 2019 17:44:35   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
I agree wiith your post nearly 100%. The number is more likely in the multiple thousands As an unbeliever, when you first started reading the Bible, you didn't understand much of it. But you understood that you were a sinner and BELIEVED that Jesus died for your sin, just as Colson did. I never heard the Gospel as teenager, but had started on a quest to learn about God and came across Rev 3:20 which states "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me." My belief was an understanding that IF there is a God, He has to faithful to His word. As an unbeliever, it was my perogative to believe Him or reject Him. I chose to believe. It was life-changing experience as there was no one there to explain that the Holy Spirit actually comes inside your heart at the moment of belief. Life has been blessedly and strangely interesting since.
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Seem like Trump wants to shut the door

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Mar 5, 2019 18:11:55   #
Iliamna1
 
There are many 'doors' and types of doors. To i*****l i*******ts, yes. He wants to protect the borders. But he can't affect any spiritual door that is opened by anyone by belief in Christ. Your analogy is off course.

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Mar 5, 2019 18:43:48   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
I thought three religions centered around the god represented by the bible? You conservatives always try to make this atheism vs Christianity when the battle is against all religion and their filtration into our political system. And your heart is towards the center of your chest not on the left side so a steel covered bible would have done little to keep a bullet from going through your heart.

Myself, I could give a flip about how the Bible is represented and I find no offense in conservatives hyper need to have the book on public display by our government. In another hundred years, it will fade away all on its own. You are welcome to try to prop it up but religion simply is on a downward trend, in this country and all across the world. I think atheists fixate on that which they need not worry about and it just gives fuel to you CC's--fuel there is no need to give when the t***h is religion in this world simply can't be saved...
I thought three religions centered around the god ... (show quote)
84% of the people on earth are religious, affiliated with religion, believe and have faith in God, a Creator, a supreme being, a higher power, gods, deities, and such. That's around 6 billion people out of 7.5 billion who believe in something greater and certainly more powerful and enduring than the human ego and our frail human conceits. One third of those 6 billion believers are Christians, 240 million of them are Americans. By contrast, about 10 million Americans are atheists, and about the same number are agnostic. A significant percentage of those American atheists are also antagonists, they are actively hostile toward religion, invariably singling out Judeo-Christianity as the target of their scorn.

I don't suppose a learned, God denying scholar and logician such as yourself can explain why Christianity is a greater threat to your egotistical secular beliefs than any other religion on earth. Spare us the superficial crap about Christianity's stand on homosexuality, gay marriage, a******n en mass, separation of church and state, and all the rest of that mundane bulls**t, see if you can pin down the real reason why Christianity is such a threat to your self-centered world view, to your overinflated ego.

The Holy Bible is still by far the best selling, most widely distributed, and most thoroughly studied and researched book on earth. The Bible has been t***slated into more languages than any other book in existence. Nearly 4 billion Bibles have been sold or distributed in just the past 50 years. The runner up has a total of 800 million copies in circulation, mostly distributed or sold to Chinese and other c*******ts, and most often forced on them by state mandate.

Moreover, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of Bible research institutes in countries around the world, among these are archeological and other science based projects focused entirely on the Biblical record. Is there another scripture in existence that has inspired such study and research? Not even close.

One thing you apparently seem unable to understand is that a person's belief system informs his or her actions, it influences and guides every action they take, every decision they make, every thing they do. If a person's belief system is based on faith in God, there is no possible way for him or her to abandon the principles by which they live. IOW, no one can separate their religious beliefs from their politics. You certainly don't. There is no possible way to prevent religion from "filtration (poor choice of words) into our political system".

It should be obvious that religion, that belief in God, belief in a higher power, belief in something greater than ourselves is here to stay, it is not on a "downward trend". In spite of your fervent desire to see religion, particularly Christianity, disappear from earth, I have bad news for you, it ain't gonna happen, not in a hundred years, not in a thousand.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

BTW, and FYI, the number of times a Bible stopped a bullet and saved a soldier's life is quite remarkable. Happened in the Revolution, the Civil War, WW1 and 2, Korea, Vietnam, and it has happened to civilians struck by bullets.

Some examples:


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Mar 5, 2019 18:56:03   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Rose42 wrote:
Why? Because there is a power in Christianity that exists in no other religion. Ever wonder why people use the name Jesus or Christ when they swear and never Allah, Budda or any other god? Because there is power in the name. There is no power in Allah, Budda or other gods because they are false gods.

The reason is spiritual. Spiritual warfare is very real.


What makes Christianity unique among all world religions?

Is Christianity really unique, or is it just one of many roads on the path to T***h? Is Christianity truly unique among the many religions around the world? If it is, what makes it so? Unique among all religions, Christianity makes several claims that others do not. First, all other religions exhort man to reach up to God and grasp hold of Him through their own efforts. Christianity is the only religion where God reaches down to man. Second, other religions are systems of do’s and don’ts to appease God; whereas Christianity is a relationship with God. Third, Christianity looks to the Bible as the singular source of T***h. Finally, Christianity is based upon truly the most amazing event in all of human history—the resurrection.

As to the first issue, other forms of religion subscribe to a system of works—those we should do and those we should avoid—which will make us “good enough” to please God and merit His favor. Christianity, on the other hand, is based on the biblical principle that we can never be good enough to be in the presence of a perfect, holy God. The Mosaic Law was given to mankind to prove to us that we can’t keep it. Galatians 3 describes the purpose of the Law. It is a “tutor” or “schoolmaster” to lead us to Christ because “…by observing the law no one will be justified” (Galatians 2:16). The impossibility of keeping the Law is revealed in what Jesus called the “first and greatest commandment” in Matthew 22:37: “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.” This would mean loving God with every fiber of our being 24/7, with never a thought for ourselves, an impossible task for anyone. But rather than condemning us as law-breakers and leaving it at that, God provided a substitute—Jesus Christ—who obeyed the Law perfectly for us. By faith in Him and accepting His work on our behalf, we are justified and made righteous. Here is the crucial difference between Christianity and all other religions.

As to the second point, Christianity is not a religious system, but a relationship with God, one that He initiated and maintains. Christians believe that mankind was created specifically to have a relationship with God, but sin separates all men from Him (Romans 3:23, 5:12). Christianity teaches that Jesus Christ walked this earth, fully God, and yet fully man (Philippians 2:6-11), and died on the cross to restore the relationship that was broken by sin. After His death on the cross, Christ was buried, He rose again, and now lives at the right hand of the Father, making intercession for believers forever (Hebrews 7:25). The intimacy of this relationship is revealed in two poignant pictures. Now no longer seen as law-breakers, we have been adopted into God’s own family as His children (Ephesians 1:5). Even more intimately, believers are the very “body of Christ” of which He is the head (Ephesians 1:22-23), having been purchased by His blood (Hebrews 9:12). No other religion makes assertions that even begin to approximate this incredible t***h.

Another thing that makes Christianity unique is its source of information. All religions have some sort of basis of information that outlines its beliefs and practices, but none have one source of information that makes the claims Christianity does about the Bible—it is the written Word of God, and it is infallible and inerrant and all that is necessary for faith and practice (2 Timothy 3:16). Christians believe that the Bible is the inspired—literally “God-breathed”—Word of God and that its teaching is the final authority (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20-21). Though there are other religions that use prophecy, none are 100% accurate, as are those in the Bible, and none of them point to someone like Jesus who made incredible claims and performed incredible deeds.

Perhaps the most defining principle of Christianity that makes it truly unique in every way and provides its fundamental basis is the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Within Christianity, the resurrection is vitally important, for without it, Christianity does not exist, and our faith is useless (1 Corinthians 15:14). It was Jesus' resurrection that changed the lives of the disciples. After Jesus was crucified, the disciples ran and hid. But when they saw the risen Lord, they knew that all Jesus had said and done proved that He was indeed God in flesh. No other religious leader has died in full view of trained executioners, had a guarded tomb, and then rose three days later to appear to many people. The resurrection is proof of who Jesus is and that He did accomplish what He set out to do: provide the only means of redemption for mankind. Buddha did not rise from the dead. Muhammad did not rise from the dead. Confucius did not rise from the dead. Krishna did not rise from the dead. Only Jesus has physically risen from the dead, walked on water, claimed to be God, and raised others from the dead. He has conquered death. Only in Christianity do we have the person of Christ who claimed to be God, performed many miracles to prove His claim of divinity, died and rose from the dead, and claimed that He alone is “the way the t***h and the life” (John 14:6) and that no one comes to the Father except through Him.

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Mar 5, 2019 19:21:06   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
jimpack123 wrote:
Seem like Trump wants to shut the door


Never miss a chance! I'm thinking you don't know to what door Jesus was speaking.

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Mar 5, 2019 20:49:50   #
Rose42
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
What makes Christianity unique among all world religions?

Is Christianity really unique, or is it just one of many roads on the path to T***h? Is Christianity truly unique among the many religions around the world? If it is, what makes it so? Unique among all religions, Christianity makes several claims that others do not. First, all other religions exhort man to reach up to God and grasp hold of Him through their own efforts. Christianity is the only religion where God reaches down to man. Second, other religions are systems of do’s and don’ts to appease God; whereas Christianity is a relationship with God. Third, Christianity looks to the Bible as the singular source of T***h. Finally, Christianity is based upon truly the most amazing event in all of human history—the resurrection.

As to the first issue, other forms of religion subscribe to a system of works—those we should do and those we should avoid—which will make us “good enough” to please God and merit His favor. Christianity, on the other hand, is based on the biblical principle that we can never be good enough to be in the presence of a perfect, holy God. The Mosaic Law was given to mankind to prove to us that we can’t keep it. Galatians 3 describes the purpose of the Law. It is a “tutor” or “schoolmaster” to lead us to Christ because “…by observing the law no one will be justified” (Galatians 2:16). The impossibility of keeping the Law is revealed in what Jesus called the “first and greatest commandment” in Matthew 22:37: “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.” This would mean loving God with every fiber of our being 24/7, with never a thought for ourselves, an impossible task for anyone. But rather than condemning us as law-breakers and leaving it at that, God provided a substitute—Jesus Christ—who obeyed the Law perfectly for us. By faith in Him and accepting His work on our behalf, we are justified and made righteous. Here is the crucial difference between Christianity and all other religions.

As to the second point, Christianity is not a religious system, but a relationship with God, one that He initiated and maintains. Christians believe that mankind was created specifically to have a relationship with God, but sin separates all men from Him (Romans 3:23, 5:12). Christianity teaches that Jesus Christ walked this earth, fully God, and yet fully man (Philippians 2:6-11), and died on the cross to restore the relationship that was broken by sin. After His death on the cross, Christ was buried, He rose again, and now lives at the right hand of the Father, making intercession for believers forever (Hebrews 7:25). The intimacy of this relationship is revealed in two poignant pictures. Now no longer seen as law-breakers, we have been adopted into God’s own family as His children (Ephesians 1:5). Even more intimately, believers are the very “body of Christ” of which He is the head (Ephesians 1:22-23), having been purchased by His blood (Hebrews 9:12). No other religion makes assertions that even begin to approximate this incredible t***h.

Another thing that makes Christianity unique is its source of information. All religions have some sort of basis of information that outlines its beliefs and practices, but none have one source of information that makes the claims Christianity does about the Bible—it is the written Word of God, and it is infallible and inerrant and all that is necessary for faith and practice (2 Timothy 3:16). Christians believe that the Bible is the inspired—literally “God-breathed”—Word of God and that its teaching is the final authority (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20-21). Though there are other religions that use prophecy, none are 100% accurate, as are those in the Bible, and none of them point to someone like Jesus who made incredible claims and performed incredible deeds.

Perhaps the most defining principle of Christianity that makes it truly unique in every way and provides its fundamental basis is the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Within Christianity, the resurrection is vitally important, for without it, Christianity does not exist, and our faith is useless (1 Corinthians 15:14). It was Jesus' resurrection that changed the lives of the disciples. After Jesus was crucified, the disciples ran and hid. But when they saw the risen Lord, they knew that all Jesus had said and done proved that He was indeed God in flesh. No other religious leader has died in full view of trained executioners, had a guarded tomb, and then rose three days later to appear to many people. The resurrection is proof of who Jesus is and that He did accomplish what He set out to do: provide the only means of redemption for mankind. Buddha did not rise from the dead. Muhammad did not rise from the dead. Confucius did not rise from the dead. Krishna did not rise from the dead. Only Jesus has physically risen from the dead, walked on water, claimed to be God, and raised others from the dead. He has conquered death. Only in Christianity do we have the person of Christ who claimed to be God, performed many miracles to prove His claim of divinity, died and rose from the dead, and claimed that He alone is “the way the t***h and the life” (John 14:6) and that no one comes to the Father except through Him.
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Mar 6, 2019 03:56:54   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Why? Because there is a power in Christianity that exists in no other religion. Ever wonder why people use the name Jesus or Christ when they swear and never Allah, Budda or any other god? Because there is power in the name. There is no power in Allah, Budda or other gods because they are false gods.

The reason is spiritual. Spiritual warfare is very real.


Chinese Buddhists often use the name Buddha to swear...

Many Muslims use the word Allah as a swear..

Western culture tends to use Jesus, Christ, and God... But other cultures use other terms...

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Mar 6, 2019 05:53:57   #
Jovickie
 
no propaganda please wrote:
The Bible is under attack by Atheists trying to remove it from this one important place
March 4, 2019

Guess that part about “ can’t we all just get along “ is not gonna pan out very well



Atheists have been waging a war on the Bible, making bogus “separation of church and state” claims.

But this time they’ve crossed the line.

Because they just demanded the Bible be removed from the one place it belongs.

Last year, the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Manchester, N.H. put up a display to honor American POWs and veterans that are missing in action from World War II.

The display showed a Bible on a table with dinner utensils, but an empty chair where the POW or MIA veteran would be.

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation, an atheist group, complained about the Bible in the display.

The atheist group then pressured the hospital to remove the Bible from the display, and the hospital caved and moved the Bible to a glass display elsewhere in the hospital.

But now the Military Religious Freedom Foundation is saying that is still not enough and that the Bible needs to be removed completely.

Christian Headlines writes:

The Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Manchester, N.H., last year allowed a museum-like “Missing Man Display” to be assembled to honor the nation’s POWs and missing veterans.

The display involved an empty chair at a kitchen table, with a plate, drinking glass, candle, flower, American f**g and salt shaker sitting atop a table cloth, WMUR reported. A Bible that was carried by a POW in World War II also was part of the display, but it was removed after a complaint from the Military Religious Freedom Foundation.

Veteran Paul Martin and his Northeast POW-MIA Network were in charge of the display.

“That Bible is not just a religious artifact — that some people would say they’re stuffing religion down my throat,” Martin told WMUR. “What it means is this guy held on to a lot of faith and hope, family and trust in this nation that they would do everything they possibly could to bring him home.”

The hospital t***sferred the Bible from the Missing Man Display, which is behind ropes out in the open, to a protected case behind glass. That is just as problematic to the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, which says 14 veterans have complained.

“That is still a Christian Bible,” Mikey Weinstein, president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, told WMUR. “It is still promoting — particularly in the surrounding aspect of the POW-MIA remembrance, one of the most sacred things you could do in the military — one faith over another faith.”

This shows the real issue with atheist organizations like the MRFF.

As soon as they get their way, their list of demands grow longer.

In this case, it wasn’t enough that the Bible was removed from the display honoring POWs and veterans that are MIA. They didn’t want the Bible to be seen at all.

Atheists don’t merely want to make Christianity a footnote of history, they want to blot it out entirely.

And to do that they are trying to write a false version of American history that doesn’t include the Bible being a critical part of the fabric of our society.

But as much as these radical atheists don’t want to admit it, the Bible was a part of standard carry for World War II soldiers.

Many of them carried steel-covered Bibles in their left chest pockets to protect their hearts – literally and figuratively.

So the best way the display could honor POWs and MIA veterans would be to give homage to the book that brought solace to countless soldiers through the darkest time in human history.
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Mar 6, 2019 05:55:36   #
Jovickie
 
Guess that part about “can’t we all just get along “ isn’t gonna pan out 😕

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