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Feb 21, 2019 18:52:54   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
For all you Libs who insist that there is no crisis at the border, that i*****l i*********n is not a problem, that border jumping is in decline, here's a wake up call. According to law enforcement, from 1/17 to 1/18 there was an 84% increase in apprehensions. Most law enforcement will tell you that for every apprehension there is at least one who got away.

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Feb 21, 2019 19:02:24   #
Liberty Tree
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
For all you Libs who insist that there is no crisis at the border, that i*****l i*********n is not a problem, that border jumping is in decline, here's a wake up call. According to law enforcement, from 1/17 to 1/18 there was an 84% increase in apprehensions. Most law enforcement will tell you that for every apprehension there is at least one who got away.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgxwBVqLZdDDhPBgvmDDWlcRlplbd


Here is an honest question and I value your opinion. Do you think there is any point in trying to have a discourse with some of the libs who post here?

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Feb 21, 2019 19:03:18   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
For all you Libs who insist that there is no crisis at the border, that i*****l i*********n is not a problem, that border jumping is in decline, here's a wake up call. According to law enforcement, from 1/17 to 1/18 there was an 84% increase in apprehensions. Most law enforcement will tell you that for every apprehension there is at least one who got away.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgxwBVqLZdDDhPBgvmDDWlcRlplbd


For future reference, what comes into your E-mail inbox, it doesn't come into EVERYBODY'S inbox, different people have different subscriptions. we can NOT read your mail, when you link to messages in your E-mail inbox and someone were to click the link, it will only take them to their inbox, should they have one with the same provider.

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Feb 21, 2019 19:08:07   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
For future reference, what comes into your E-mail inbox, it doesn't come into EVERYBODY'S inbox, different people have different subscriptions. we can NOT read your mail, when you link to messages in your E-mail inbox and someone were to click the link, it will only take them to their inbox, should they have one with the same provider.


I just clicked on the link that you copied and pasted and it went to the site. The Gmail came up but then went to the site. I have not had this happen before.

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Feb 21, 2019 19:26:22   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Here is an honest question and I value your opinion. Do you think there is any point in trying to have a discourse with some of the libs who post here?


Nope. Complete waste of time but fun, like an arcade game.

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Feb 21, 2019 19:45:00   #
Liberty Tree
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Nope. Complete waste of time but fun, like an arcade game.


It is hard to believe they can be so deliberately disengenuous. A whole different mindset.

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Feb 21, 2019 20:00:08   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Here is an honest question and I value your opinion. Do you think there is any point in trying to have a discourse with some of the libs who post here?

Actually, LT, much of the discourse on OPP is honest, but combative. I believe that posters usually simply disagree as a result of having different perspectives. The problems lies with the likelihood that political discussions can be and often are similar to religious discussions.

Imagine, if you will, a Rabbi or Priest trying to convince the other of their religious convictions or beliefs with the hopeful result of a spiritual or theological conversion. The odds are strongly against that coming to fruition as the result of either's efforts. And, partisan/ideological zealots generally approach those with opposing political views with the fervor of religious evangelists.

Thus, it often appears not enough for a 'true believer' to believe as they do. All others must also, or they can become self-righteous, indignant or even angry, bitter and vindictive. OPP political discourse often ends in being similar to the story of the boy who angrily took his football home with him due to others not playing by his rules.

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Feb 21, 2019 20:11:23   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
I just clicked on the link that you copied and pasted and it went to the site. The Gmail came up but then went to the site. I have not had this happen before.


I c/p'ed no link, I merely "quote reply"'ed to your post. The link did specifically direct to Gmail though (in your original post) as the beginning of the link started with "https://mail.google.com/mail", that is a direct link to Gmail. Another way top link to Gmail is to link to "https://gmail.com" which will redirect to "https://mail.google.com/mail".

Perhaps there is a link within the E-mail that you can post for others to see the content you wanted others to see.

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Feb 21, 2019 20:50:38   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
I c/p'ed no link, I merely "quote reply"'ed to your post. The link did specifically direct to Gmail though (in your original post) as the beginning of the link started with "https://mail.google.com/mail", that is a direct link to Gmail. Another way top link to Gmail is to link to "https://gmail.com" which will redirect to "https://mail.google.com/mail".

Perhaps there is a link within the E-mail that you can post for others to see the content you wanted others to see.
I c/p'ed no link, I merely "quote reply"... (show quote)

Try this one...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/border-apprehensions-jump-84-606-000-expected-this-year

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Feb 21, 2019 20:59:05   #
rumitoid
 
slatten49 wrote:
Actually, LT, much of the discourse on OPP is honest, but combative. I believe that posters usually simply disagree as a result of having different perspectives. The problems lies with the likelihood that political discussions can be and often are similar to religious discussions.

Imagine, if you will, a Rabbi or Priest trying to convince the other of their religious convictions or beliefs with the hopeful result of a spiritual or theological conversion. The odds are strongly against that coming to fruition as the result of either's efforts. And, partisan/ideological zealots generally approach those with opposing political views with the fervor of religious evangelists.

Thus, it often appears not enough for a 'true believer' to believe as they do. All others must also, or they can become self-righteous, indignant or even angry, bitter and vindictive. OPP political discourse often ends in being similar to the story of the boy who angrily took his football home with him due to others not playing by his rules.
Actually, LT, much of the discourse on OPP is hone... (show quote)


Too insightful and clear. It embarrasses the zealots on both sides for being indignant or even angry, instead of being reasonable and civil in their discourse. Foolishness.

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Feb 21, 2019 21:42:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
slatten49 wrote:
Actually, LT, much of the discourse on OPP is honest, but combative. I believe that posters usually simply disagree as a result of having different perspectives. The problems lies with the likelihood that political discussions can be and often are similar to religious discussions.

Imagine, if you will, a Rabbi or Priest trying to convince the other of their religious convictions or beliefs with the hopeful result of a spiritual or theological conversion. The odds are strongly against that coming to fruition as the result of either's efforts. And, partisan/ideological zealots generally approach those with opposing political views with the fervor of religious evangelists.

Thus, it often appears not enough for a 'true believer' to believe as they do. All others must also, or they can become self-righteous, indignant or even angry, bitter and vindictive. OPP political discourse often ends in being similar to the story of the boy who angrily took his football home with him due to others not playing by his rules.
Actually, LT, much of the discourse on OPP is hone... (show quote)


Well said Slatten...

I like to think I'm one of the group who figured out we can all chip in for a communal ball...(Socialism... Oh my )


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Feb 21, 2019 22:10:08   #
Sicilianthing
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
For all you Libs who insist that there is no crisis at the border, that i*****l i*********n is not a problem, that border jumping is in decline, here's a wake up call. According to law enforcement, from 1/17 to 1/18 there was an 84% increase in apprehensions. Most law enforcement will tell you that for every apprehension there is at least one who got away.


>>>

There it IS !

And if someone wants all the stats the Scumbags in Gov’t won’t ever publish they can go to

NumbersUSA.com

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Feb 21, 2019 22:22:22   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>

There it IS !

And if someone wants all the stats the Scumbags in Gov’t won’t ever publish they can go to

NumbersUSA.com


https://NumbersUSA.com

I have not checked the site, it is likely a conservative site. This site is listed as an anti-immigration web site and may or may not offer inflated statistics to support it's anti-immigration agenda. My making the link clickable should NOT be considered an endorsement by me of this site.

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Feb 21, 2019 22:25:08   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
rumitoid wrote:
Too insightful and clear. It embarrasses the zealots on both sides for being indignant or even angry, instead of being reasonable and civil in their discourse. Foolishness.


I find most of Slatten's posts insightful if not all.


P.S. Throwback Thursday Slatten?

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Feb 21, 2019 22:39:41   #
Sicilianthing
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
https://NumbersUSA.com

I have not checked the site, it is likely a conservative site. This site is listed as an anti-immigration web site and may or may not offer inflated statistics to support it's anti-immigration agenda. My making the link clickable should NOT be considered an endorsement by me of this site.


>>>

Wrong Answer!

Get back to me when you’ve educated yourself with the t***h.

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