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Feb 13, 2019 16:18:40   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Good morning class, today we are going to discuss how the Ice Age ended. The earth entered a warming trend over 15,000 years ago which stopped the glaciers that covered most of the Northern Hemisphere, some over a mile thick from continuing to grow. We will use a block of ice for our glacier and place it on the sidewalk on a warm day, it will not melt at first because it will be sustained by its own cold temperature. Then it will melt slowly at first and then as the ice gets thinner it will melt faster and faster till it is gone. It is a natural cycle of the earth as it moves through its 26,000year wobble that ended and was re-started on 12 December 2012.

At the end of the Ice Age, water levels on the earth were 400 feet lower than it is now, the water from the melting ice has caused the oceans to rise to today’s level. The release of all that water also affects the earth’s wobble, the mass of snow and ice is in the form of millions of tons of weight that is now on the move, through evaporation and runoff. With the pressure from the weight of the ice no longer pressing down on the earth’s surface, the ground is rising as it rebounds to it pre-ice age levels. This can be seen in the Great Lakes as water levels change causing many streams that fed the Lakes are now flowing back to their source as the lake bottoms rise.

This is the class that G****l W*****g Guru, Al Gore, and his like-minded friends skipped or are deliberately ignoring. Now, why would the great carnival barker, Al Gore and his cronies keep beating this drum, it’s all about the money and the power. If you control the direction of a government, you are controlling that government, those pushing G****l W*****g (aka) C*****e C****e around the world want to center that control in the hands of the socialist despots that run the United Nation.


The countries that have signed on to the Kyoto Climate Agreement, the primary goal is to put the burden and cost on the taxes payers of the United States, while ignoring and giving a pass to world polluters of China, India, and Russia. Regardless of the fact, the United States has been a world leader in clean energy, cleaning up pollution by putting scrubbing units on industrial smokestacks to café standards for automobile emissions. Anyone who ever spent time in Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, and other polluted areas in the U.S. back in the 1950s – 1980s remembers the massive air pollution, the SMOG that existed then, now you have clear air and can now breath without needing a respirator.


For years it has been the ‘S**M’ of G****l W*****g and carbon footprints was the fault of everyone and everything, when the predicted disasters failed to materialize. The hokey science guys decided to change the name to C*****e C****e, it’s still the same big s**m created by the control freaks in the United Nations in an attempt to control the United States. Their basic message was and is for the U.S. to surrender our national sovereignty to the United Nations to save the world.

make up your own mind

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Feb 13, 2019 16:22:50   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
badbobby wrote:
Good morning class, today we are going to discuss how the Ice Age ended. The earth entered a warming trend over 15,000 years ago which stopped the glaciers that covered most of the Northern Hemisphere, some over a mile thick from continuing to grow. We will use a block of ice for our glacier and place it on the sidewalk on a warm day, it will not melt at first because it will be sustained by its own cold temperature. Then it will melt slowly at first and then as the ice gets thinner it will melt faster and faster till it is gone. It is a natural cycle of the earth as it moves through its 26,000year wobble that ended and was re-started on 12 December 2012.

At the end of the Ice Age, water levels on the earth were 400 feet lower than it is now, the water from the melting ice has caused the oceans to rise to today’s level. The release of all that water also affects the earth’s wobble, the mass of snow and ice is in the form of millions of tons of weight that is now on the move, through evaporation and runoff. With the pressure from the weight of the ice no longer pressing down on the earth’s surface, the ground is rising as it rebounds to it pre-ice age levels. This can be seen in the Great Lakes as water levels change causing many streams that fed the Lakes are now flowing back to their source as the lake bottoms rise.

This is the class that G****l W*****g Guru, Al Gore, and his like-minded friends skipped or are deliberately ignoring. Now, why would the great carnival barker, Al Gore and his cronies keep beating this drum, it’s all about the money and the power. If you control the direction of a government, you are controlling that government, those pushing G****l W*****g (aka) C*****e C****e around the world want to center that control in the hands of the socialist despots that run the United Nation.


The countries that have signed on to the Kyoto Climate Agreement, the primary goal is to put the burden and cost on the taxes payers of the United States, while ignoring and giving a pass to world polluters of China, India, and Russia. Regardless of the fact, the United States has been a world leader in clean energy, cleaning up pollution by putting scrubbing units on industrial smokestacks to café standards for automobile emissions. Anyone who ever spent time in Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, and other polluted areas in the U.S. back in the 1950s – 1980s remembers the massive air pollution, the SMOG that existed then, now you have clear air and can now breath without needing a respirator.


For years it has been the ‘S**M’ of G****l W*****g and carbon footprints was the fault of everyone and everything, when the predicted disasters failed to materialize. The hokey science guys decided to change the name to C*****e C****e, it’s still the same big s**m created by the control freaks in the United Nations in an attempt to control the United States. Their basic message was and is for the U.S. to surrender our national sovereignty to the United Nations to save the world.

make up your own mind
Good morning class, today we are going to discuss ... (show quote)


Excellent valuable and succinct explanation. Thank you for posting it.

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Feb 13, 2019 16:50:04   #
bahmer
 
badbobby wrote:
Good morning class, today we are going to discuss how the Ice Age ended. The earth entered a warming trend over 15,000 years ago which stopped the glaciers that covered most of the Northern Hemisphere, some over a mile thick from continuing to grow. We will use a block of ice for our glacier and place it on the sidewalk on a warm day, it will not melt at first because it will be sustained by its own cold temperature. Then it will melt slowly at first and then as the ice gets thinner it will melt faster and faster till it is gone. It is a natural cycle of the earth as it moves through its 26,000year wobble that ended and was re-started on 12 December 2012.

At the end of the Ice Age, water levels on the earth were 400 feet lower than it is now, the water from the melting ice has caused the oceans to rise to today’s level. The release of all that water also affects the earth’s wobble, the mass of snow and ice is in the form of millions of tons of weight that is now on the move, through evaporation and runoff. With the pressure from the weight of the ice no longer pressing down on the earth’s surface, the ground is rising as it rebounds to it pre-ice age levels. This can be seen in the Great Lakes as water levels change causing many streams that fed the Lakes are now flowing back to their source as the lake bottoms rise.

This is the class that G****l W*****g Guru, Al Gore, and his like-minded friends skipped or are deliberately ignoring. Now, why would the great carnival barker, Al Gore and his cronies keep beating this drum, it’s all about the money and the power. If you control the direction of a government, you are controlling that government, those pushing G****l W*****g (aka) C*****e C****e around the world want to center that control in the hands of the socialist despots that run the United Nation.


The countries that have signed on to the Kyoto Climate Agreement, the primary goal is to put the burden and cost on the taxes payers of the United States, while ignoring and giving a pass to world polluters of China, India, and Russia. Regardless of the fact, the United States has been a world leader in clean energy, cleaning up pollution by putting scrubbing units on industrial smokestacks to café standards for automobile emissions. Anyone who ever spent time in Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, and other polluted areas in the U.S. back in the 1950s – 1980s remembers the massive air pollution, the SMOG that existed then, now you have clear air and can now breath without needing a respirator.


For years it has been the ‘S**M’ of G****l W*****g and carbon footprints was the fault of everyone and everything, when the predicted disasters failed to materialize. The hokey science guys decided to change the name to C*****e C****e, it’s still the same big s**m created by the control freaks in the United Nations in an attempt to control the United States. Their basic message was and is for the U.S. to surrender our national sovereignty to the United Nations to save the world.

make up your own mind
Good morning class, today we are going to discuss ... (show quote)


Amen and Amen very very good there professor thank you for today's lecture and you were right on target thanks again professor Amen and Amen.

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Feb 13, 2019 22:31:44   #
solarkin
 
badbobby wrote:
Good morning class, today we are going to discuss how the Ice Age ended. The earth entered a warming trend over 15,000 years ago which stopped the glaciers that covered most of the Northern Hemisphere, some over a mile thick from continuing to grow. We will use a block of ice for our glacier and place it on the sidewalk on a warm day, it will not melt at first because it will be sustained by its own cold temperature. Then it will melt slowly at first and then as the ice gets thinner it will melt faster and faster till it is gone. It is a natural cycle of the earth as it moves through its 26,000year wobble that ended and was re-started on 12 December 2012.

At the end of the Ice Age, water levels on the earth were 400 feet lower than it is now, the water from the melting ice has caused the oceans to rise to today’s level. The release of all that water also affects the earth’s wobble, the mass of snow and ice is in the form of millions of tons of weight that is now on the move, through evaporation and runoff. With the pressure from the weight of the ice no longer pressing down on the earth’s surface, the ground is rising as it rebounds to it pre-ice age levels. This can be seen in the Great Lakes as water levels change causing many streams that fed the Lakes are now flowing back to their source as the lake bottoms rise.

This is the class that G****l W*****g Guru, Al Gore, and his like-minded friends skipped or are deliberately ignoring. Now, why would the great carnival barker, Al Gore and his cronies keep beating this drum, it’s all about the money and the power. If you control the direction of a government, you are controlling that government, those pushing G****l W*****g (aka) C*****e C****e around the world want to center that control in the hands of the socialist despots that run the United Nation.


The countries that have signed on to the Kyoto Climate Agreement, the primary goal is to put the burden and cost on the taxes payers of the United States, while ignoring and giving a pass to world polluters of China, India, and Russia. Regardless of the fact, the United States has been a world leader in clean energy, cleaning up pollution by putting scrubbing units on industrial smokestacks to café standards for automobile emissions. Anyone who ever spent time in Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, and other polluted areas in the U.S. back in the 1950s – 1980s remembers the massive air pollution, the SMOG that existed then, now you have clear air and can now breath without needing a respirator.


For years it has been the ‘S**M’ of G****l W*****g and carbon footprints was the fault of everyone and everything, when the predicted disasters failed to materialize. The hokey science guys decided to change the name to C*****e C****e, it’s still the same big s**m created by the control freaks in the United Nations in an attempt to control the United States. Their basic message was and is for the U.S. to surrender our national sovereignty to the United Nations to save the world.
make up your own mind
Good morning class, today we are going to discuss ... (show quote)


So, are people just going on their merry way to full blown delusional existences?
What on Gods Green Earth is happening.?
It seems that the rise of destructive behavior ,and backward thinking is taking a serious toll.
Something odd is going on .I can't imagine people have always been this fraked up.
Based on how quickly it spreads ,could it even be contagious?

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Feb 14, 2019 06:46:26   #
rebob14
 
badbobby wrote:
Good morning class, today we are going to discuss how the Ice Age ended. The earth entered a warming trend over 15,000 years ago which stopped the glaciers that covered most of the Northern Hemisphere, some over a mile thick from continuing to grow. We will use a block of ice for our glacier and place it on the sidewalk on a warm day, it will not melt at first because it will be sustained by its own cold temperature. Then it will melt slowly at first and then as the ice gets thinner it will melt faster and faster till it is gone. It is a natural cycle of the earth as it moves through its 26,000year wobble that ended and was re-started on 12 December 2012.

At the end of the Ice Age, water levels on the earth were 400 feet lower than it is now, the water from the melting ice has caused the oceans to rise to today’s level. The release of all that water also affects the earth’s wobble, the mass of snow and ice is in the form of millions of tons of weight that is now on the move, through evaporation and runoff. With the pressure from the weight of the ice no longer pressing down on the earth’s surface, the ground is rising as it rebounds to it pre-ice age levels. This can be seen in the Great Lakes as water levels change causing many streams that fed the Lakes are now flowing back to their source as the lake bottoms rise.

This is the class that G****l W*****g Guru, Al Gore, and his like-minded friends skipped or are deliberately ignoring. Now, why would the great carnival barker, Al Gore and his cronies keep beating this drum, it’s all about the money and the power. If you control the direction of a government, you are controlling that government, those pushing G****l W*****g (aka) C*****e C****e around the world want to center that control in the hands of the socialist despots that run the United Nation.


The countries that have signed on to the Kyoto Climate Agreement, the primary goal is to put the burden and cost on the taxes payers of the United States, while ignoring and giving a pass to world polluters of China, India, and Russia. Regardless of the fact, the United States has been a world leader in clean energy, cleaning up pollution by putting scrubbing units on industrial smokestacks to café standards for automobile emissions. Anyone who ever spent time in Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, and other polluted areas in the U.S. back in the 1950s – 1980s remembers the massive air pollution, the SMOG that existed then, now you have clear air and can now breath without needing a respirator.


For years it has been the ‘S**M’ of G****l W*****g and carbon footprints was the fault of everyone and everything, when the predicted disasters failed to materialize. The hokey science guys decided to change the name to C*****e C****e, it’s still the same big s**m created by the control freaks in the United Nations in an attempt to control the United States. Their basic message was and is for the U.S. to surrender our national sovereignty to the United Nations to save the world.

make up your own mind
Good morning class, today we are going to discuss ... (show quote)

A good, and accurate, post! I spent time in NYC, Chicago, Detroit, and along the east coast in the 1950’s through the 1980’s and the difference in the air, and water, quality is stunning! The movement that became the church of environmental shaming achieved stunning success but is now simply funding a different campaign using the banner of environmentalism!

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Feb 14, 2019 06:51:13   #
rebob14
 
solarkin wrote:
So, are people just going on their merry way to full blown delusional existences?
What on Gods Green Earth is happening.?
It seems that the rise of destructive behavior ,and backward thinking is taking a serious toll.
Something odd is going on .I can't imagine people have always been this fraked up.
Based on how quickly it spreads ,could it even be contagious?


It IS contagious...........it’s called hysteria and is the default position of large numbers of people living in large concentrations! It is the engine of power, which is seldom relinquished.

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Feb 14, 2019 07:37:44   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
rebob14 wrote:
It IS contagious...........it’s called hysteria and is the default position of large numbers of people living in large concentrations! It is the engine of power, which is seldom relinquished.


As population rises, intelligence falls. Mob mentality takes over.

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Feb 14, 2019 12:34:25   #
JoyV
 
badbobby wrote:
Good morning class, today we are going to discuss how the Ice Age ended. The earth entered a warming trend over 15,000 years ago which stopped the glaciers that covered most of the Northern Hemisphere, some over a mile thick from continuing to grow. We will use a block of ice for our glacier and place it on the sidewalk on a warm day, it will not melt at first because it will be sustained by its own cold temperature. Then it will melt slowly at first and then as the ice gets thinner it will melt faster and faster till it is gone. It is a natural cycle of the earth as it moves through its 26,000year wobble that ended and was re-started on 12 December 2012.

At the end of the Ice Age, water levels on the earth were 400 feet lower than it is now, the water from the melting ice has caused the oceans to rise to today’s level. The release of all that water also affects the earth’s wobble, the mass of snow and ice is in the form of millions of tons of weight that is now on the move, through evaporation and runoff. With the pressure from the weight of the ice no longer pressing down on the earth’s surface, the ground is rising as it rebounds to it pre-ice age levels. This can be seen in the Great Lakes as water levels change causing many streams that fed the Lakes are now flowing back to their source as the lake bottoms rise.

This is the class that G****l W*****g Guru, Al Gore, and his like-minded friends skipped or are deliberately ignoring. Now, why would the great carnival barker, Al Gore and his cronies keep beating this drum, it’s all about the money and the power. If you control the direction of a government, you are controlling that government, those pushing G****l W*****g (aka) C*****e C****e around the world want to center that control in the hands of the socialist despots that run the United Nation.


The countries that have signed on to the Kyoto Climate Agreement, the primary goal is to put the burden and cost on the taxes payers of the United States, while ignoring and giving a pass to world polluters of China, India, and Russia. Regardless of the fact, the United States has been a world leader in clean energy, cleaning up pollution by putting scrubbing units on industrial smokestacks to café standards for automobile emissions. Anyone who ever spent time in Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, and other polluted areas in the U.S. back in the 1950s – 1980s remembers the massive air pollution, the SMOG that existed then, now you have clear air and can now breath without needing a respirator.


For years it has been the ‘S**M’ of G****l W*****g and carbon footprints was the fault of everyone and everything, when the predicted disasters failed to materialize. The hokey science guys decided to change the name to C*****e C****e, it’s still the same big s**m created by the control freaks in the United Nations in an attempt to control the United States. Their basic message was and is for the U.S. to surrender our national sovereignty to the United Nations to save the world.

make up your own mind
Good morning class, today we are going to discuss ... (show quote)


Very good explanation of one of the major causes of c*****e c****e. Another shorter term cause in the hundreds of years vs the tens of thousands of years is sun spot activity. When the current wobble cycle began in 2012, were were also just entering a deep solar minimum (low sunspot activity). Thousands of solar flares were experienced on a monthly basis inundating the earth with solar energy during the previous maximum. In 2018, we had less than a dozen most months. These events have coincided with Pacific Ocean temperatures falling, ice caps expanding, and this winter with far more and deeper cold spells than has been the average. Yet the c*****e c****e supporters still want to attribute the cold weather, rise in ocean temps, and increase in polar caps to the increase in carbon emissions, and discount any natural cause. Funny that when Al Gore was touting his book, increased carbon emissions were suppose to make the world warmer. Carbon emissions have increased dramatically in the past few years, while global temperatures have decreased!

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Feb 14, 2019 12:36:56   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JoyV wrote:
Very good explanation of one of the major causes of c*****e c****e. Another shorter term cause in the hundreds of years vs the tens of thousands of years is sun spot activity. When the current wobble cycle began in 2012, were were also just entering a deep solar minimum (low sunspot activity). Thousands of solar flares were experienced on a monthly basis inundating the earth with solar energy during the previous maximum. In 2018, we had less than a dozen most months. These events have coincided with Pacific Ocean temperatures falling, ice caps expanding, and this winter with far more and deeper cold spells than has been the average. Yet the c*****e c****e supporters still want to attribute the cold weather, rise in ocean temps, and increase in polar caps to the increase in carbon emissions, and discount any natural cause. Funny that when Al Gore was touting his book, increased carbon emissions were suppose to make the world warmer. Carbon emissions have increased dramatically in the past few years, while global temperatures have decreased!
Very good explanation of one of the major causes o... (show quote)


But the mob has been ignited! They "know" man is destroying the earth. They heard it on the internet! Their pitiful ways of thinking have condemned them to being forever controlled.

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Feb 14, 2019 15:56:19   #
Highlander66 Loc: Illinois
 
Thank you all for these informative and clearly written posts. This brings me more information that I can use in some of my discussions I have with some of my more naive and credulous associates. I have been a big believer in c*****e c****e. My issue has been what is the actual driving force and why do people have the hubris and arrogance to think that we could change it deliberately and if we did start to change the earths climate what makes them think it would be for the better. I have asked several of them, “what makes you think that what we have for climate right now, right this day, is optimal. What if we had some g****l w*****g and increased C02 and the deserts started greening up and we had tens of thousands of square miles that were useable again?” I usually get yelled at and dire warnings about some vague doomsday thing where everyone is going to die. Quite frankly, if the earth needed to remove humans, it’s going to happen whether we want it to or not. The main problem I’m having is the people saying we need to do this or that or we’re all going to die are proposing “solutions” that would result in widespread poverty and loss of freedoms with no discernible gains. It also seems to involve a lot of giving money and power to people who really like money and power who don’t seem to be inclined to give up any of their own comforts and privileges but require the unwashed masses to give up theirs. I approach the majority of c*****e c****ers as if it was a religion because that’s what it seems to be for them.

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Feb 14, 2019 16:00:58   #
bahmer
 
Highlander66 wrote:
Thank you all for these informative and clearly written posts. This brings me more information that I can use in some of my discussions I have with some of my more naive and credulous associates. I have been a big believer in c*****e c****e. My issue has been what is the actual driving force and why do people have the hubris and arrogance to think that we could change it deliberately and if we did start to change the earths climate what makes them think it would be for the better. I have asked several of them, “what makes you think that what we have for climate right now, right this day, is optimal. What if we had some g****l w*****g and increased C02 and the deserts started greening up and we had tens of thousands of square miles that were useable again?” I usually get yelled at and dire warnings about some vague doomsday thing where everyone is going to die. Quite frankly, if the earth needed to remove humans, it’s going to happen whether we want it to or not. The main problem I’m having is the people saying we need to do this or that or we’re all going to die are proposing “solutions” that would result in widespread poverty and loss of freedoms with no discernible gains. It also seems to involve a lot of giving money and power to people who really like money and power who don’t seem to be inclined to give up any of their own comforts and privileges but require the unwashed masses to give up theirs. I approach the majority of c*****e c****ers as if it was a religion because that’s what it seems to be for them.
Thank you all for these informative and clearly wr... (show quote)


One good volcanic eruption in the United States would in essence wipe out all of the good humans could do for the next 30 years or so with the amount of ash and gases that would be shot in to the atmosphere would be about equal to 30 years of car emissions would be my guess.

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Feb 14, 2019 16:03:23   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Highlander66 wrote:
Thank you all for these informative and clearly written posts. This brings me more information that I can use in some of my discussions I have with some of my more naive and credulous associates. I have been a big believer in c*****e c****e. My issue has been what is the actual driving force and why do people have the hubris and arrogance to think that we could change it deliberately and if we did start to change the earths climate what makes them think it would be for the better. I have asked several of them, “what makes you think that what we have for climate right now, right this day, is optimal. What if we had some g****l w*****g and increased C02 and the deserts started greening up and we had tens of thousands of square miles that were useable again?” I usually get yelled at and dire warnings about some vague doomsday thing where everyone is going to die. Quite frankly, if the earth needed to remove humans, it’s going to happen whether we want it to or not. The main problem I’m having is the people saying we need to do this or that or we’re all going to die are proposing “solutions” that would result in widespread poverty and loss of freedoms with no discernible gains. It also seems to involve a lot of giving money and power to people who really like money and power who don’t seem to be inclined to give up any of their own comforts and privileges but require the unwashed masses to give up theirs. I approach the majority of c*****e c****ers as if it was a religion because that’s what it seems to be for them.
Thank you all for these informative and clearly wr... (show quote)


Exactly!

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Feb 14, 2019 16:04:01   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
One good volcanic eruption in the United States would in essence wipe out all of the good humans could do for the next 30 years or so with the amount of ash and gases that would be shot in to the atmosphere would be about equal to 30 years of car emissions would be my guess.


The Yellowstone caldera!

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Feb 14, 2019 16:09:13   #
bahmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
The Yellowstone caldera!


You have active volcanoes on Hawaii as well as out west.

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Feb 14, 2019 16:18:12   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
You have active volcanoes on Hawaii as well as out west.


Those ones are just lava pushers over a hot spot which migrates as the continents shift. The west coast and Yellowstone caldera are the ones to watch. Yellowstone is a giant one which could alter the entire planet.

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