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Feb 14, 2019 14:45:18   #
Bcon
 
Oldsalt wrote:
There is not a law currently on the books or one you could write that would have stopped the last few mass shootings. To stop mass shootings you need to teach values to the youth of the nation. I was raised with guns in the home, they were never locked up. We knew they weren’t toys, they were fun to shoot, but it was always under dad’s supervision. It’s not the tool, it’s how you are taught to use the tool. And any infringement on my Constitutionally protected rights will be met with resistance. I don’t trust the folks in DC to protect me and my family. Hell, they can’t even protect the boarder from invasion right now. No I’ll keep my guns and rely on myself thank you.
There is not a law currently on the books or one y... (show quote)


You have expressed the feelings of every right thinking Americans. The second amendment is not to be challenged.

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Feb 14, 2019 15:37:38   #
woodguru
 
Bcon wrote:
Most every shooting, single or mass, in the past number of years has been democrat. Check the stats.


Is that according to FOX or what? Right Wingers own the unhinged crazies.

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Feb 14, 2019 17:27:49   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
woodguru wrote:
Is that according to FOX or what? Right Wingers own the unhinged crazies.


GOVERNMENTS k**l in the millions just as soon as they have the power.... leave the weapons and the power with the people. Read and be appalled. https://www.hawaii.edu/powerk**ls/MEGA.HTM

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Feb 14, 2019 17:41:45   #
Bcon
 
woodguru wrote:
Is that according to FOX or what? Right Wingers own the unhinged crazies.


Bulls**t. Check you facts.

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Feb 14, 2019 17:49:34   #
Bcon
 
buffalo wrote:
Your blather only proves we have a criminal and crazy epidemic in the US because law abiding, sane gun owners do not commit murder or crimes with or without guns. They use them for sport and to protect their lives, their family's lives and their property. Why do anti-gun moonbats like you have a problem with guns and not with the criminals and crazies that use them to commit crimes or murder?


Because the crazies and criminals that use them to commit crimes are part of their protected class.. example:: I*****l a***ns etc.

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Feb 14, 2019 17:54:34   #
Bcon
 
woodguru wrote:
By definition the person who uses guns to k**l and injure innocent people has a serious mental health issue.

Changing the dynamics of drunk driver deaths isn't about limiting the numbers of cars, it was a much harsher treatment of drunk drivers that made a difference...

The correlation is a much harsher outlook on people who should not have a gun, personally I feel that people in unhinged people's lives need to take a proactive position about making it clear that someone they know is a danger in terms of having access to guns. People involved with certain degrees of domestic violence and anger management issues need to be restricted. A harsh view on a few hundred thousand people with aberrant mental health issues would affect a percentage of the types of random violence we are seeing. Unstable people do not have the same rights that stable people do.
By definition the person who uses guns to k**l and... (show quote)


There are plenty of laws on the books that can prevent much death by firearms. The
Government under the democrats refused to prosecute many of the broken laws because they didn’t want to upset the reasons for total gun control. How many five year sentences can you recall were given to felons who had firearms, which was supposed to be a mandatory law. If they took this action as they should have, there would be less gun deaths and less reason for gun control.

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Feb 14, 2019 17:56:27   #
Bcon
 
woodguru wrote:
Background checks are part of it, more comprehensive reporting of mental health issues, especially anger management issues resulting in domestic violence needs to be implemented, screw the gun rights of unstable people.


That is only a part of what the gun control crowd wants. They want a national registry of all gun owners which would definitely lead to total gun confiscation.

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Feb 14, 2019 17:59:31   #
Bcon
 
rumitoid wrote:
In an analysis of 235 mass k*****gs, many of which were carried out with firearms, 22 percent of the perpetrators could be considered mentally ill.

Overall, mass shootings by people with serious mental illness represent 1 percent of all gun homicides each year, according to the book “Gun Violence and Mental Illness” published by the American Psychiatric Association in 2016.

To be sure, gun violence experts contacted by New York Times reporters have said that barring sales to people who are deemed dangerous by mental health providers could help prevent mass shootings. But the experts said several more measures — including banning assault weapons and barring sales to convicted violent criminals — more effective.
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The definition of assault weapons is bulls**t. They call any gun that doesn’t look like the old standard hunting rifle an assault weapon. Hell, if I pick up a butter knife and try to stab you with it, the butter knife is an assault weapon. More liberal bull.

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Feb 14, 2019 18:04:44   #
Bcon
 
rumitoid wrote:
How about 1. something % or lower for the vast majority of European nations? Do you object to such a rate here? Responsible gun-control could make the US as safe. 4.7 is nothing to be proud of.


How about Switzerland. I was there in 84, and every able bodied male was part of m*****a training and was issued his own personal firearm.i believe it is the same now. The murder rate in Switzerland is among the lowest in the world. Shoots your argument all to hell.

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Feb 14, 2019 18:22:47   #
Rose42
 
woodguru wrote:
Is that according to FOX or what? Right Wingers own the unhinged crazies.


Not true and a look on this forum reflects that. lol Nobody owns them.

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