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Feb 12, 2019 21:00:40   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
vernon wrote:
The only part of this country thats messed up is the west coast and they v**e in their misery.


I would take offence but I won't since you live in Lousy anna.

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Feb 13, 2019 10:14:51   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Kevyn wrote:
What you should realize is that Trump believes you are a deplorable clinger and a dreg, he just lies to you. The people in his cabinet are not the educated academics and experts he denounces as elitist, they are the true elitists; multinational billionaires. People like you aren’t even on his radar except as chumps to be conned, and chattel for his N**i styled h**e rallies.


Trump official Smokes out Resistance:
I’m A Senior Trump Official, And I Hope A Long Shutdown Smokes out The Resistance
By Senior Trump Official
The Daily Caller is taking the rare step of publishing this anonymous op-ed at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose career would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers.
As one of the senior officials working without a paycheck, a few words of advice for the president’s next move at shuttered government agencies: lock the doors, sell the furniture, and cut them down.
Federal employees are starting to feel the strain of the shutdown. I am one of them. But for the sake of our nation, I hope it lasts a very long time, till the government is changed and can never return to its previous form.
The lapse in appropriations is more than a battle over a wall. It is an opportunity to strip wasteful government agencies for good.
On an average day, roughly 15 percent of the employees around me are exceptional patriots serving their country. I wish I could give competitive salaries to them and no one else. But 80 percent feel no pressure to produce results. If they don’t feel like doing what they are told, they don’t.
Why would they? We can’t fire them. They avoid attention, plan their weekend, schedule vacation, their second job, their next position - some do this in the same position for more than a decade.
They do nothing that warrants punishment and nothing of external value. That is their workday: errands for the sake of errands - administering, refining, following and collaborating on process. “Process is your friend” is what delusional civil servants tell themselves. Even senior officials must gain approval from every rank across their department, other agencies and work units for basic administrative chores.
Process is what we serve, process keeps us safe, process is our core value. It takes a lot of people to maintain the process. Process provides jobs. In fact, there are process experts and certified process managers who protect the process. Then there are the 5 percent with moxie
(career managers). At any given time they can change, clarify or add to the process - even to distort or block policy counsel for the president.

Saboteurs peddling opinion as research, tasking their staff on pet projects or pitching wasteful grants to their friends. Most of my career colleagues actively work against the president’s agenda. This means I typically spend about 15 percent of my time on the president’s agenda and 85 percent of my time trying to stop sabotage, and we have no power to get rid of them. Until the shutdown.
Due to the lack of funding, many federal agencies are now operating more effectively from the top down on a fraction of their workforce, with only select essential personnel serving national security tasks. One might think this is how government should function, but bureaucracies operate from the bottom up - a collective of self-generated ideas. Ideas become initiatives, formalize into offices, they seek funds from Congress and become bureaus or sub-agencies, and maybe one day grow to be their own independent agency, like ours. The nature of a big administrative bureaucracy is to grow to serve itself. I watch it and fight it daily.
When the agency is full, employees held liable for poor performance respond with threats, lawsuits, complaints and process in at least a dozen offices, taking years of mounting paperwork with no fear of accountability, extending their careers, while no real work is done. Do we succumb to such extortion? Yes. We pay them settlements, we waive bad reviews and we promote them.
Many government agencies have adopted the position that more complaints are good because it shows inclusion in, you guessed it, the process. When complaints come, it is cheaper to pay them off than to hold public servants accountable. The result: People accused of serious offenses are not charged and self-proclaimed victims are paid by you, the American taxpayer.
The message to federal supervisors is clear. Maintain the status quo, or face allegations. Many federal employees truly believe that doing tasks more efficiently and cutting out waste, by closing troubled programs instead of expanding them, “is morally wrong”, as one cried to me.
I get it. These are their pets. It is tough to put them down and let go, and many resist. This phenomenon was best summed up by a colleague who said, “The goal in government is to do nothing. If you try to get things done, that’s when you will run into trouble.” But President Trump can end this abuse. Senior officials can reprioritize during an extended shutdown, focus on valuable results and weed out the saboteurs. We do not want most employees to return, because we are working better without them. Sure, we empathize with families making tough financial decisions, like mine, and just like private citizens who have to find other work and bring competitive value every day, while paying more than a third of their salary in federal taxes.
President Trump has created more jobs in the private sector than the furloughed federal workforce. Now that we are shut down, not only are we identifying and eliminating much of the sabotage and waste, but we are finally working on the president’s agenda.
President Trump does not need Congress to address the border emergency, and yes, it is an emergency. Billions upon billions of hard-earned tax dollars are still being dumped into foreign aid programs every year that do nothing for America’s interest or national security. The president does not need congressional funding to deconstruct abusive agencies who work against his agenda. This is a chance to effect real change, and his leverage grows stronger every day the shutdown lasts.
The president should add to his demands, including a v**e on all of his political nominees in the Senate. Send the career appointees back. Many are in the 5 percent of saboteurs and resistance leaders.
A word of caution: To be a victory, this shutdown must be different than those of the past and should achieve lasting disruption with two major changes, or it will hurt the president.
The first thing we need out of this is better security, particularly at the southern border. Our founders envisioned a free market night watchman state, not the bungled bloated bureaucracy our government has become. But we have to keep the uniformed officers paid, which is an emergency. Ideally, continue a resolution to pay the essential employees only, if they are truly working on national security. Furloughed employees should find other work, never return and not be paid.
Secondly, we need savings for taxpayers. If this fight is merely rhetorical bickering with Nancy Pelosi, we all lose, especially the president. But if it proves that government is better when smaller, focusing only on essential functions that serve Americans, then President Trump will achieve something great that Reagan was only bold enough to dream.
The president’s instincts are right. Most Americans will not miss non-essential government functions. A referendum to end government plunder must happen. Wasteful government agencies are fighting for relevance but they will lose. Now is the time to deliver historic change by cutting them down forever.

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Feb 13, 2019 10:23:45   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Trump official Smokes out Resistance:
I’m A Senior Trump Official, And I Hope A Long Shutdown Smokes out The Resistance
By Senior Trump Official
The Daily Caller is taking the rare step of publishing this anonymous op-ed at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose career would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers.
As one of the senior officials working without a paycheck, a few words of advice for the president’s next move at shuttered government agencies: lock the doors, sell the furniture, and cut them down.
Federal employees are starting to feel the strain of the shutdown. I am one of them. But for the sake of our nation, I hope it lasts a very long time, till the government is changed and can never return to its previous form.
The lapse in appropriations is more than a battle over a wall. It is an opportunity to strip wasteful government agencies for good.
On an average day, roughly 15 percent of the employees around me are exceptional patriots serving their country. I wish I could give competitive salaries to them and no one else. But 80 percent feel no pressure to produce results. If they don’t feel like doing what they are told, they don’t.
Why would they? We can’t fire them. They avoid attention, plan their weekend, schedule vacation, their second job, their next position - some do this in the same position for more than a decade.
They do nothing that warrants punishment and nothing of external value. That is their workday: errands for the sake of errands - administering, refining, following and collaborating on process. “Process is your friend” is what delusional civil servants tell themselves. Even senior officials must gain approval from every rank across their department, other agencies and work units for basic administrative chores.
Process is what we serve, process keeps us safe, process is our core value. It takes a lot of people to maintain the process. Process provides jobs. In fact, there are process experts and certified process managers who protect the process. Then there are the 5 percent with moxie
(career managers). At any given time they can change, clarify or add to the process - even to distort or block policy counsel for the president.

Saboteurs peddling opinion as research, tasking their staff on pet projects or pitching wasteful grants to their friends. Most of my career colleagues actively work against the president’s agenda. This means I typically spend about 15 percent of my time on the president’s agenda and 85 percent of my time trying to stop sabotage, and we have no power to get rid of them. Until the shutdown.
Due to the lack of funding, many federal agencies are now operating more effectively from the top down on a fraction of their workforce, with only select essential personnel serving national security tasks. One might think this is how government should function, but bureaucracies operate from the bottom up - a collective of self-generated ideas. Ideas become initiatives, formalize into offices, they seek funds from Congress and become bureaus or sub-agencies, and maybe one day grow to be their own independent agency, like ours. The nature of a big administrative bureaucracy is to grow to serve itself. I watch it and fight it daily.
When the agency is full, employees held liable for poor performance respond with threats, lawsuits, complaints and process in at least a dozen offices, taking years of mounting paperwork with no fear of accountability, extending their careers, while no real work is done. Do we succumb to such extortion? Yes. We pay them settlements, we waive bad reviews and we promote them.
Many government agencies have adopted the position that more complaints are good because it shows inclusion in, you guessed it, the process. When complaints come, it is cheaper to pay them off than to hold public servants accountable. The result: People accused of serious offenses are not charged and self-proclaimed victims are paid by you, the American taxpayer.
The message to federal supervisors is clear. Maintain the status quo, or face allegations. Many federal employees truly believe that doing tasks more efficiently and cutting out waste, by closing troubled programs instead of expanding them, “is morally wrong”, as one cried to me.
I get it. These are their pets. It is tough to put them down and let go, and many resist. This phenomenon was best summed up by a colleague who said, “The goal in government is to do nothing. If you try to get things done, that’s when you will run into trouble.” But President Trump can end this abuse. Senior officials can reprioritize during an extended shutdown, focus on valuable results and weed out the saboteurs. We do not want most employees to return, because we are working better without them. Sure, we empathize with families making tough financial decisions, like mine, and just like private citizens who have to find other work and bring competitive value every day, while paying more than a third of their salary in federal taxes.
President Trump has created more jobs in the private sector than the furloughed federal workforce. Now that we are shut down, not only are we identifying and eliminating much of the sabotage and waste, but we are finally working on the president’s agenda.
President Trump does not need Congress to address the border emergency, and yes, it is an emergency. Billions upon billions of hard-earned tax dollars are still being dumped into foreign aid programs every year that do nothing for America’s interest or national security. The president does not need congressional funding to deconstruct abusive agencies who work against his agenda. This is a chance to effect real change, and his leverage grows stronger every day the shutdown lasts.
The president should add to his demands, including a v**e on all of his political nominees in the Senate. Send the career appointees back. Many are in the 5 percent of saboteurs and resistance leaders.
A word of caution: To be a victory, this shutdown must be different than those of the past and should achieve lasting disruption with two major changes, or it will hurt the president.
The first thing we need out of this is better security, particularly at the southern border. Our founders envisioned a free market night watchman state, not the bungled bloated bureaucracy our government has become. But we have to keep the uniformed officers paid, which is an emergency. Ideally, continue a resolution to pay the essential employees only, if they are truly working on national security. Furloughed employees should find other work, never return and not be paid.
Secondly, we need savings for taxpayers. If this fight is merely rhetorical bickering with Nancy Pelosi, we all lose, especially the president. But if it proves that government is better when smaller, focusing only on essential functions that serve Americans, then President Trump will achieve something great that Reagan was only bold enough to dream.
The president’s instincts are right. Most Americans will not miss non-essential government functions. A referendum to end government plunder must happen. Wasteful government agencies are fighting for relevance but they will lose. Now is the time to deliver historic change by cutting them down forever.
Trump official Smokes out Resistance: br I’m A Sen... (show quote)


Daily Caller



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Feb 13, 2019 10:26:40   #
vernon
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Speak for yourself. Our country is f---ed up now



What makes it that way? why do you feel its so bad here ?

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Feb 13, 2019 10:45:48   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
vernon wrote:
What makes it that way? why do you feel its so bad here ?


Don't know any more about your state than you do mine. You love your home and I love my home--It's where we belong. I can t***hfully say that Tabasco is the best pepper sauce made and I thank your state for that. If your house is framed with Douglas fir you can thank Oregon. As a whole our country is divided among the people here. We have too many homeless-- too many jobless and people die because doctors won't see them when they have no money or insurance. We spend money on war but let our schools nosedive and we have a low academic standing compared to the rest of the developed world. This is America--We can do better and should.

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Feb 13, 2019 10:53:09   #
vernon
 
woodguru wrote:
I'm missing that part somehow, where is the really cheap healthcare that replaces Obamacare?


Ask these DEmoRATS that have worked tirelessly just to stop Trump.They don't are care how much they hold back this country or how much damage they do, just stop Trump.Now they do all this and your kind of people just lie and lie and support the outlandish crap

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Feb 13, 2019 10:57:08   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Don't know any more about your state than you do mine. You love your home and I love my home--It's where we belong. I can t***hfully say that Tabasco is the best pepper sauce made and I thank your state for that. If your house is framed with Douglas fir you can thank Oregon. As a whole our country is divided among the people here. We have too many homeless-- too many jobless and people die because doctors won't see them when they have no money or insurance. We spend money on war but let our schools nosedive and we have a low academic standing compared to the rest of the developed world. This is America--We can do better and should.
Don't know any more about your state than you do m... (show quote)


And hopefully you will...

America still has great reserves of untapped potential...

God bless...

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Feb 13, 2019 11:01:55   #
vernon
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I would take offence but I won't since you live in Lousy anna.


We v**ed in a demoRAT gov and it hasen't been very pleasant he has been raising taxes left and right. He has raised taxes on everything and now he has an 85mil surplus. He had tried to keep surplus a secret and give the teachers a nice big raise instead of paying down the debt. Now that its out he has hit a bump in the road and people are watching.

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Feb 13, 2019 11:33:56   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Don't know any more about your state than you do mine. You love your home and I love my home--It's where we belong. I can t***hfully say that Tabasco is the best pepper sauce made and I thank your state for that. If your house is framed with Douglas fir you can thank Oregon. As a whole our country is divided among the people here. We have too many homeless-- too many jobless and people die because doctors won't see them when they have no money or insurance. We spend money on war but let our schools nosedive and we have a low academic standing compared to the rest of the developed world. This is America--We can do better and should.
Don't know any more about your state than you do m... (show quote)


My state also has too many homeless, but most of them choose that way of life. On my job, I speak with at least 1 homeless person every day, so I know. We have a hospital that gets government funding to treat the uninsured. In fact, EVERY hospital has the duty to diagnose and treat you until you are in a stable condition. Our economy is booming. Our schools are doing quite well and I suggest that your state of residence is spending your tax dollars somewhere else. We have a low academic record compared to certain other parts of the world because we have spoiled our children rotten. Rather than learning "reading, writing, and arithmetic" we allow our teachers to bombard them with race, sexual orientation (actually disorientation), tearing down America, erasing Christianity and replacing it with Islam, ( why Christianity?). As for Islam, I'll believe it is peaceful when I see Muslim's publicly condemn the radicals, and until then, just to be silent only proves acceptance. Yes, we spend money on war but believe it or not, if we DON'T do that, all the other little creepy nations that h**e us will try to subvert us.
I believe that ones perception of our country is like the 1/2 glass of water...half full or half empty.
I think I've given answers to your statements, so answer me one question; Why, when we feed and give financial aid to many, many other countries, do they h**e us so bad?

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Feb 13, 2019 11:39:26   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
vernon wrote:
We v**ed in a demoRAT gov and it hasen't been very pleasant he has been raising taxes left and right. He has raised taxes on everything and now he has an 85mil surplus. He had tried to keep surplus a secret and give the teachers a nice big raise instead of paying down the debt. Now that its out he has hit a bump in the road and people are watching.


"We v**ed in a demoRAT gov and it hasen't been very pleasant he has been raising taxes left and right." - vernon

Vernon; What state are you in?

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Feb 13, 2019 11:41:13   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
maximus wrote:
My state also has too many homeless, but most of them choose that way of life. On my job, I speak with at least 1 homeless person every day, so I know. We have a hospital that gets government funding to treat the uninsured. In fact, EVERY hospital has the duty to diagnose and treat you until you are in a stable condition. Our economy is booming. Our schools are doing quite well and I suggest that your state of residence is spending your tax dollars somewhere else. We have a low academic record compared to certain other parts of the world because we have spoiled our children rotten. Rather than learning "reading, writing, and arithmetic" we allow our teachers to bombard them with race, sexual orientation (actually disorientation), tearing down America, erasing Christianity and replacing it with Islam, ( why Christianity?). As for Islam, I'll believe it is peaceful when I see Muslim's publicly condemn the radicals, and until then, just to be silent only proves acceptance. Yes, we spend money on war but believe it or not, if we DON'T do that, all the other little creepy nations that h**e us will try to subvert us.
I believe that ones perception of our country is like the 1/2 glass of water...half full or half empty.
I think I've given answers to your statements, so answer me one question; Why, when we feed and give financial aid to many, many other countries, do they h**e us so bad?
My state also has too many homeless, but most of t... (show quote)


Maximus; what state are you residing in?

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Feb 13, 2019 15:29:52   #
1ProudAmerican
 
I think we should take up a collection and get poor kevy some new coloring books. It's obvious he's finished his Medicaid supplied ones. We should probably each pitch in a little extra to buy crayons too 'cause I'm pretty sure he ate the others.

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Feb 13, 2019 18:11:10   #
cbpat1
 
Kevyn wrote:
What you should realize is that Trump believes you are a deplorable clinger and a dreg, he just lies to you. The people in his cabinet are not the educated academics and experts he denounces as elitist, they are the true elitists; multinational billionaires. People like you aren’t even on his radar except as chumps to be conned, and chattel for his N**i styled h**e rallies.



Well, it was Hillary that was calling Trump supporters deplorables. Everything you just accused Trump of is exactly what Hillary is. Wake up kevy boy! Hillary wouldn’t know the t***h if it bit her in the ass. It’s somewhat of a problem with the Clinton’s. Talk about elitists, what better example than the Clinton’s? The very people who steal, by the hundreds of millions, for their phony Clinton foundation, chumping unsuspecting, fools out of their hard earned money? Trump? You have got to be joking!

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Feb 13, 2019 18:56:22   #
Carol Kelly
 
steve66613 wrote:
Are you treasonous and un-American?

Would you prefer socialism to a democratic republic?

Do you want to erase this country’s history and heritage?

Are our current, national leaders not patriots?

No borders?

No guns?


No, I’m not unAmerican. I don’t want socialism. I trust Trump but not many others.
I demand borders. I demand we have the right to own guns. I m not looking for Utopia. I’m hoping for Heaven eventually to be with my Lord and Savior. I am an AMERICAN and a CHRISTIAN. I WORKED, I brought up four of my five children to be responsible citizens of a free country. God took one of my babies home and I can’t u derstand a******n much less support it. I resent that my tax money is used to support Planned Parenthood which simply stands for “k**l babies” .

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Feb 13, 2019 20:01:58   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
cbpat1 wrote:
Well, it was Hillary that was calling Trump supporters deplorables. Everything you just accused Trump of is exactly what Hillary is. Wake up kevy boy! Hillary wouldn’t know the t***h if it bit her in the ass. It’s somewhat of a problem with the Clinton’s. Talk about elitists, what better example than the Clinton’s? The very people who steal, by the hundreds of millions, for their phony Clinton foundation, chumping unsuspecting, fools out of their hard earned money? Trump? You have got to be joking!
Well, it was Hillary that was calling Trump suppor... (show quote)


Why can't the Reflubs prove anything on Hillary?

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