When did losing an e******n become a stepping stone to running for president? (Page 2): A nascent Betogate, or even better in the case of Abrams, cow pasturegate.

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crazylibertarian wrote:

When did losing an e******n become a stepping ston... (show quote)

A nascent Betogate, or even better in the case of Abrams, cow pasturegate.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

bylm1-Bernie wrote:

Did you have a good night's sleep, Frosty? Your c... (show quote)

yes Bernie,,, and my morning rush should last another 20 minuets or so..

do you truly think health care is income redistribution?? where does the term even come from..

forgetting for a moment about people like my who could not buy insurance..

It is a simply fact that early treatment of any medical condition is cheaper then letting it reach emergency status before rendering care.. Which was the alternative..

I guess we could go down a long list of policy and rant at each other as right of left wing nuts about the good or bad outlook.

but, rather I will simply try and lump some of my pov and say that the country needs a large and prosperous middle/working class to keep America strong..

If you continue to punish the lower end of the economy while gifting the top end, we will ruin ourselves and end up as the second rate nation we seem headed for now..

that said, I have to say that I think we also need some conservative policy to offset the input that could push us to another extreme..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

crazylibertarian wrote:

Trump didn't lose the e******n.

He was elected by a minority of v**ers..

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

permafrost wrote:

Are you mad at Nixon because he signed those and o... (show quote)

There was only one blurb that Nixon was in on the planning of the Watergate break-in. That was never repeated and likely was not true. Further, he only ordered the coverup so that the White House would not be tarnished.

Nixon just got caught. The Kennedys, Johnson and FDR did far worse in abuses of power.

French politicians were astonished at it. One said, we have Watergates every day. The Italians were also incredulous over it.

Nixon faced an implacably hostile press, unlike FDR, the Kennedys and even Johnson. That hostility was never outdone until Trump. Anything he has done is dwarfed by the outright avarice of the Obamas & Clintons.

Permafrost, past your reading time? What do you read? Aesop's Fables?

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

crazylibertarian wrote:

There was only one blurb that Nixon was in on the ... (show quote)

You do understand that we do not follow the rules of France or Italy??

You do not think Nixon was a criminal?

But until Ronnie Raygun and now trump, he was the most indicted president in history..

Or do you follow your dreams and live in the orange cloud of lies?

No, never read that Aesop guy..

I have near endless list of favs.. Sandford is #1... but Preston/child is up their.. Grisham..

Box, Minn writer... several of them, make it a goal to read each of them..

but I read darn near anything.. history, fiction, sci fiction, King, Koontz... Connolly,,,

have you ever read a book you did not need to? It can be fun..

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

permafrost wrote:

yes Bernie,,, and my morning rush should last anot... (show quote)

There are so many internal contradictions in this posting but why bother; Permafrost will never stop promulgating his cliches. But Permafrost, tell us your occupation and we can construct an argument to socialize it. See how you like it.

Fit2BTied Loc: Texas

permafrost wrote:

Are you mad at Nixon because he signed those and o... (show quote)

hmmm...but you seem to be OK with Clapper and Brennan's lies? Agnew was a turd, but Clapper and Brennan were and ARE very dangerous individuals even now.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

crazylibertarian wrote:

There are so many internal contradictions in this posting but why bother; Permafrost will never stop promulgating his cliches. But Permafrost, tell us your occupation and we can construct an argument to socialize it. See how you like it.

before i took my well earned early retirement, I owned a delivery/boom service business and basked in the huge building boom created by the evil bankers of the republican party..

Do you have a grudge against someone who made money from republican misdeeds??

Before i did that, I worked in t***sportation as operations guru and before that I got a Biz admin degree from the U of MN, before that i was a US Marine and damn proud of it..

I now spend my time of leisure on my 45 acres overlooking this 2500 acre lake in the wilds of northern Minnesota.. very comfortable, but at times bored..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Fit2BTied wrote:

hmmm...but you seem to be OK with Clapper and Brennan's lies? Agnew was a turd, but Clapper and Brennan were and ARE very dangerous individuals even now.

maybe, but which ones are you talking about? Brennan the news lady or Brennan sitting on his haunches still working for the orange con?

Clapper?
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Fit2BTied Loc: Texas

permafrost wrote:

maybe, but which ones are you talking about? Brennan the news lady or Brennan sitting on his haunches still working for the orange con?

Clapper?
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John Brennan, Obama's CIA Director
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/07/31/obama-should-fire-john-brennan/
James Clapper, NSA Director
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/01/27/darrell-issa-james-clapper-lied-to-congress-about-nsa-and-should-be-fired/

You need to get out more permafrost.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

permafrost wrote:

Would you not say Nixon is a pretty pathetic example of GOP greatness?

Or do you simply love criminals??

It doesn't surprise me that you missed my point. And, of course, you put words into my mouth that I didn't say.

I would say that you're a pretty pathetic example of intelligence but then again, you're a liberal so the normal rules of exchange do not apply.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

crazylibertarian wrote:

It doesn't surprise me that you missed my point. And, of course, you put words into my mouth that I didn't say.

I would say that you're a pretty pathetic example of intelligence but then again, you're a liberal so the normal rules of exchange do not apply.

Troubles you when you have nothing? Is that it??

What was your point that Agnew was a fine man, a prime example of Republican ideals??

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Fit2BTied wrote:

John Brennan, Obama's CIA Director
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/07/31/obama-should-fire-john-brennan/
James Clapper, NSA Director
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/01/27/darrell-issa-james-clapper-lied-to-congress-about-nsa-and-should-be-fired/

You need to get out more permafrost.

Gosh, my bad, did not think you were going so far back in history..

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

permafrost wrote:

before i took my well earned early retirement, I o... (show quote)

I have no grudge against anyone making a living from anything but before you advocate for socialism of my field, health care, I suggest you socialize your own.

Republican misdeeds? Only partly so, Most likely you benefited from the Clintons' Community Re-investment Act.

Congratulations on being a Marine.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

permafrost wrote:

Troubles you when you have nothing? Is that it??

What was your point that Agnew was a fine man, a prime example of Republican ideals??

My point was about two Democrats projected into national contention after having lost e******ns.

Remedial reading is offered at community colleges.