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Feb 4, 2019 11:23:08   #
Pat Riot
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
We should vastly increase steeply progressive estate taxes. Nobody should inherit enough money to buy the prostitutes in Congress. That is simply corruption. Ten million dollars should be the limit inherited by any family member.



Spoken like a true Marxist. You would've fit right in with the Bolsheviks in 1917. You can't seem to wrap your tiny little brain around the concept of a free market society. A person works their entire life, paying taxes on their earnings and capital gains, and in YOUR sick SJW world, that person can't leave a legacy to his heirs because the government has to tax it again and re-distribute that person's hard earned wealth? Why do you C*******ts insist on spending (or seizing) other peoples' money?

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Feb 4, 2019 11:34:39   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Because they are to stupid or lazy to earn it for themselves.
Pat R**t wrote:
Spoken like a true Marxist. You would've fit right in with the Bolsheviks in 1917. You can't seem to wrap your tiny little brain around the concept of a free market society. A person works their entire life, paying taxes on their earnings and capital gains, and in YOUR sick SJW world, that person can't leave a legacy to his heirs because the government has to tax it again and re-distribute that person's hard earned wealth? Why do you C*******ts insist on spending (or seizing) other peoples' money?
Spoken like a true Marxist. You would've fit right... (show quote)

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Feb 4, 2019 11:52:55   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
maximus wrote:
Really, Bob? You liberals have k**led soooooo many right in the mothers womb.


Oh no, they were all wacko conservatives. I will lie and post silly bull s**t too. (Not really)

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Feb 4, 2019 12:22:22   #
TrueAmerican
 
Kevyn wrote:
Freshman congress member Alaxandrea Ocasio-Cortez recently suggested increasing the top marginal tax rate to 70% on income over ten million a year. While right wing nutters lost their minds over returning to the tax policies of the 50s and 60s recent polling data shows that a wide majority of Americans agree with Ocasio-Cortez.


Some people continue to lie no matter how many times they are proven to be a liar and continue to use false data to support their lies. They should be embarrassed but they have no shame

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Feb 4, 2019 12:51:01   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
All of you right wing fanatics must know in your hearts you are not correct.

I can think of no other reason why so many would try so hard to divert this thread on Tax to a string of accusations about A******n...

Which you also do not seem to understand..

The existing estate tax allows spouse to keep over 10 million with no tax. individuals it is 5 million..

the tax shelters from the 50s and other times for the most part still exsist and most have become more inclusive..

Free markets seldom exist in today world, they must be in balance on both sides to work, the Business in the market do all they can to keep the market tilted in their favor..

Consider this.... tax in the US pays for service recieved..

If you are in a positiion that gets more service then the average, you should indeed be willing to pay more.

When you buy more of, or a better product, you expect and are willing to pay the greater amount to cover the improved service or produce..

So it follows that when you receive more value from a service, (govt programs) you are willing to pay more.

that is a capitalistic rule, more value costs more money..

If you admire Capitalistic economy, you should have no problem with the concept..

A graduated taxation makes obvious sense both in the short and long term..

We are now suffering from the lose of that graduation.. but it is a long subject and deserves a thread of its own.. start one if you wish..



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Feb 4, 2019 13:00:23   #
Nickolai
 
Pat R**t wrote:
Spoken like a true Marxist. You would've fit right in with the Bolsheviks in 1917. You can't seem to wrap your tiny little brain around the concept of a free market society. A person works their entire life, paying taxes on their earnings and capital gains, and in YOUR sick SJW world, that person can't leave a legacy to his heirs because the government has to tax it again and re-distribute that person's hard earned wealth? Why do you C*******ts insist on spending (or seizing) other peoples' money?
Spoken like a true Marxist. You would've fit right... (show quote)






There is no such thing as a free market. No one on earth has a v**e for who is in the WTO but there are 900 pages of rules about who is going to make what where and when. Read Kevin Philips epic book-- "Wealth and Democracy " How Great Fortunes and government created Americas Aristocracy

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Feb 4, 2019 13:39:37   #
Nickolai
 
TrueAmerican wrote:
Some people continue to lie no matter how many times they are proven to be a liar and continue to use false data to support their lies. They should be embarrassed but they have no shame
Some people continue to lie no matter how many tim... (show quote)







Yes I justb seen on TV that Trump has told over 8,500 false or misleading statements since taking office that's an average of 11 and one third per day

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Feb 4, 2019 13:40:24   #
Carol Kelly
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
More h**e the rich philosophy born out of jealousy.



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Feb 4, 2019 13:41:40   #
Carol Kelly
 
TrueAmerican wrote:
Some people continue to lie no matter how many times they are proven to be a liar and continue to use false data to support their lies. They should be embarrassed but they have no shame
Some people continue to lie no matter how many tim... (show quote)


Amen.

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Feb 4, 2019 14:52:32   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
JFlorio wrote:
Because they are to stupid or lazy to earn it for themselves.





Sorry for the cartoon...I just couldn't resist.



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Feb 4, 2019 15:33:10   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
permafrost wrote:
All of you right wing fanatics must know in your hearts you are not correct.

I can think of no other reason why so many would try so hard to divert this thread on Tax to a string of accusations about A******n...

Which you also do not seem to understand..

The existing estate tax allows spouse to keep over 10 million with no tax. individuals it is 5 million..

the tax shelters from the 50s and other times for the most part still exsist and most have become more inclusive..

Free markets seldom exist in today world, they must be in balance on both sides to work, the Business in the market do all they can to keep the market tilted in their favor..

Consider this.... tax in the US pays for service recieved..

If you are in a positiion that gets more service then the average, you should indeed be willing to pay more.

When you buy more of, or a better product, you expect and are willing to pay the greater amount to cover the improved service or produce..

So it follows that when you receive more value from a service, (govt programs) you are willing to pay more.

that is a capitalistic rule, more value costs more money..

If you admire Capitalistic economy, you should have no problem with the concept..

A graduated taxation makes obvious sense both in the short and long term..

We are now suffering from the lose of that graduation.. but it is a long subject and deserves a thread of its own.. start one if you wish..
All of you right wing fanatics must know in your h... (show quote)



Why should the Govt be allowed to keep any of it? They didn't earn it, they are just looking for more places to fund their l*****t programs and pay their do-nothing employees.

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Feb 4, 2019 15:34:29   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Nickolai wrote:
Yes I justb seen on TV that Trump has told over 8,500 false or misleading statements since taking office that's an average of 11 and one third per day


What TV network did you spot that on, Nick? That couldn't have been on CNN or MSNBC could it?

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Feb 4, 2019 16:03:46   #
Carol Kelly
 
Kevyn wrote:
Freshman congress member Alaxandrea Ocasio-Cortez recently suggested increasing the top marginal tax rate to 70% on income over ten million a year. While right wing nutters lost their minds over returning to the tax policies of the 50s and 60s recent polling data shows that a wide majority of Americans agree with Ocasio-Cortez.


All on welfare, lazy do nothings think they can have it all off another mans hard work.

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Feb 4, 2019 16:03:50   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Why should the Govt be allowed to keep any of it? They didn't earn it, they are just looking for more places to fund their l*****t programs and pay their do-nothing employees.



You do not specify but I will assume (yes i know) that you are talking about the estate tax..

Jefferson and his buddies wanted this type of tax in order to prevent building the aristocracy as Europe had developed.. Passing down the full fortune make a family with more resources then the small govt of the US could match.. that would hand control from the democracy/republic the founders envisioned to a few very rich who could do as the wished and ignore the welfare of the nation..

As the tax exists in the US today, I can not understand why people bother to address it at all..

clearly you do not want any civil programs and have low regard of the govt bureaucracy.. I can not convert you on that, but I feel any large group of workers will have plenty of both good and bad individuals.

As to the programs themselves, they do not all fit in a single category so we would have to consider them one by one..

I feel most of these programs are well worth having, but think waist in every part of government projects and programs is rampant..

successful cutting of costs should be a must, but not simply ending of the programs..

BTW, why would the Govt. have to earn the tax money we pay each year??

the service we demand has a cost, a high cost in my view.. we need to pay or do without and no profit programs do not attract private investment. Or they would be private funded long ago..

but the number of unneeded spending on the wealthy is unending..






In the real world only a very few are affected by the estate tax.. we do have plenty of tax to b***h about, but this one only affects about 1% or less and the vast majority of us are not ever affected by it..

I love football, but hate this gifting to billionaires..
I love football, but hate this gifting to billiona...

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Feb 4, 2019 16:04:52   #
Carol Kelly
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
What TV network did you spot that on, Nick? That couldn't have been on CNN or MSNBC could it?


Crazy people out there. Didn’t pass English grammar but they know it all.

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