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Jan 17, 2019 12:43:29   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/16/senator-says-congress-is-almost-ready-to-indict-trump.html


Sheldon Whitehouse, the senior Democratic senator from Rhode Island, said yesterday that Congress is almost ready to indict President Donald Trump. He also indicated that he is hopeful that Trump may soon face actual criminal charges.
Whitehouse, a former U.S. attorney and attorney general for Rhode Island, was on CNN Tuesday night speaking to anchor Chris Cuomo. He admitted that while Congress is closing in on Trump, more evidence is still required for them to make an air-tight legal case, saying:

“I do not at all subscribe to the Office of Legal Counsel theory that a president can’t be indicted. I think that if there are crimes that he has committed he should be indicted.”

“I think that the Office of Legal Counsel and the Department of Justice bends over backward to take the most executive branch-friendly position that it possibly can. But I think a court taking a look at this would say, ‘No, no no, no, no.’”

The Office of Legal Counsel has taken the position that issuing criminal indictments to a sitting president would “undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.”
But Whitehouse referred to “the Nixon precedents and others,” which he believes do not support the idea that a president will “not being answerable to the public in any way.”

He also added that having an unanswerable president would be very dangerous for the country, saying:
“It would create a terrible situation—you’ve got a president who the public knows is the subject of criminal investigation, may very well be involved in criminal activity, and you don’t get a resolution of that question. You don’t get pressure on him to answer questions and get out—that doesn’t seem like an appropriate way to deal with it.”
The former prosecutor also said he would like investigators to have more time to develop the evidence against Trump to make criminal charges stick, saying, “I would want to know a lot more.”

Then he added:
“We are certainly in a mode, I believe, of moving toward indictment and charges of the president. But I do not believe, based on what I know― Mueller may know more―that we’re at the stage right now of actually being able to make the charge.”

“I think that there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that has piled up that one perhaps could take to a jury. But as a prosecutor carrying the burden of persuasion with reasonable doubt on the defendant’s side, I’d want to keep investigating and try to get some really direct evidence.”

Many people, including former Justice Department officials and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, believe Donald Trump can be — and should be — indicted for his crimes. Based on these new comments from Sen. Whitehouse it appears that the time for Trump’s indictment may be coming soon.

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Jan 17, 2019 13:41:53   #
Kevyn
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/16/senator-says-congress-is-almost-ready-to-indict-trump.html


Sheldon Whitehouse, the senior Democratic senator from Rhode Island, said yesterday that Congress is almost ready to indict President Donald Trump. He also indicated that he is hopeful that Trump may soon face actual criminal charges.
Whitehouse, a former U.S. attorney and attorney general for Rhode Island, was on CNN Tuesday night speaking to anchor Chris Cuomo. He admitted that while Congress is closing in on Trump, more evidence is still required for them to make an air-tight legal case, saying:

“I do not at all subscribe to the Office of Legal Counsel theory that a president can’t be indicted. I think that if there are crimes that he has committed he should be indicted.”

“I think that the Office of Legal Counsel and the Department of Justice bends over backward to take the most executive branch-friendly position that it possibly can. But I think a court taking a look at this would say, ‘No, no no, no, no.’”

The Office of Legal Counsel has taken the position that issuing criminal indictments to a sitting president would “undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.”
But Whitehouse referred to “the Nixon precedents and others,” which he believes do not support the idea that a president will “not being answerable to the public in any way.”

He also added that having an unanswerable president would be very dangerous for the country, saying:
“It would create a terrible situation—you’ve got a president who the public knows is the subject of criminal investigation, may very well be involved in criminal activity, and you don’t get a resolution of that question. You don’t get pressure on him to answer questions and get out—that doesn’t seem like an appropriate way to deal with it.”
The former prosecutor also said he would like investigators to have more time to develop the evidence against Trump to make criminal charges stick, saying, “I would want to know a lot more.”

Then he added:
“We are certainly in a mode, I believe, of moving toward indictment and charges of the president. But I do not believe, based on what I know― Mueller may know more―that we’re at the stage right now of actually being able to make the charge.”

“I think that there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that has piled up that one perhaps could take to a jury. But as a prosecutor carrying the burden of persuasion with reasonable doubt on the defendant’s side, I’d want to keep investigating and try to get some really direct evidence.”

Many people, including former Justice Department officials and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, believe Donald Trump can be — and should be — indicted for his crimes. Based on these new comments from Sen. Whitehouse it appears that the time for Trump’s indictment may be coming soon.
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/16/senator-sa... (show quote)

I hope they make their move soon and move the Pumpkinfuhrer from the White House to the big house!

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Jan 17, 2019 15:15:39   #
Airforceone
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/16/senator-says-congress-is-almost-ready-to-indict-trump.html


Sheldon Whitehouse, the senior Democratic senator from Rhode Island, said yesterday that Congress is almost ready to indict President Donald Trump. He also indicated that he is hopeful that Trump may soon face actual criminal charges.
Whitehouse, a former U.S. attorney and attorney general for Rhode Island, was on CNN Tuesday night speaking to anchor Chris Cuomo. He admitted that while Congress is closing in on Trump, more evidence is still required for them to make an air-tight legal case, saying:

“I do not at all subscribe to the Office of Legal Counsel theory that a president can’t be indicted. I think that if there are crimes that he has committed he should be indicted.”

“I think that the Office of Legal Counsel and the Department of Justice bends over backward to take the most executive branch-friendly position that it possibly can. But I think a court taking a look at this would say, ‘No, no no, no, no.’”

The Office of Legal Counsel has taken the position that issuing criminal indictments to a sitting president would “undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.”
But Whitehouse referred to “the Nixon precedents and others,” which he believes do not support the idea that a president will “not being answerable to the public in any way.”

He also added that having an unanswerable president would be very dangerous for the country, saying:
“It would create a terrible situation—you’ve got a president who the public knows is the subject of criminal investigation, may very well be involved in criminal activity, and you don’t get a resolution of that question. You don’t get pressure on him to answer questions and get out—that doesn’t seem like an appropriate way to deal with it.”
The former prosecutor also said he would like investigators to have more time to develop the evidence against Trump to make criminal charges stick, saying, “I would want to know a lot more.”

Then he added:
“We are certainly in a mode, I believe, of moving toward indictment and charges of the president. But I do not believe, based on what I know― Mueller may know more―that we’re at the stage right now of actually being able to make the charge.”

“I think that there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that has piled up that one perhaps could take to a jury. But as a prosecutor carrying the burden of persuasion with reasonable doubt on the defendant’s side, I’d want to keep investigating and try to get some really direct evidence.”

Many people, including former Justice Department officials and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, believe Donald Trump can be — and should be — indicted for his crimes. Based on these new comments from Sen. Whitehouse it appears that the time for Trump’s indictment may be coming soon.
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/16/senator-sa... (show quote)


Another factual post. But Bad Bob what is being forgotten is the Office of Legal council just formed an opinion. There is nothing in the constitution that says a sitting president cannot be indicted.

The Office of legal council did not address if Congress found crimes committed by the president then he should be impeached and then indicted.

What should be a concern is the Muellar report cannot be released unless the AG chooses to do so and he can also edit the report as he sees fit. He can edit anything that may point to Trumps guilt. And leave anything that can be twisted that will show he had nothing to do with his advisors colluding.

The special council is not charged with providing a public accounting. That’s done by the AG.

But Muellar is not stupid he already has secret indictments with th courts with the grand jury and they remain secret until the offenders are charged then it becomes public information.

These secret indictments I am sure they are directed at the Trump crime family.

But now that the democrats have control of the House a real congressional investigation will be done. So there is lots of evidence that will become public.

It’s a tough thing now that Trump is starting to realize that congress has subpeana power and compel Trumps people to answer questions under oath.

So one way or another that full report will come out.

Have you looked into this issue.

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Jan 17, 2019 15:35:02   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Airforceone wrote:
Another factual post. But Bad Bob what is being forgotten is the Office of Legal council just formed an opinion. There is nothing in the constitution that says a sitting president cannot be indicted.

The Office of legal council did not address if Congress found crimes committed by the president then he should be impeached and then indicted.

What should be a concern is the Muellar report cannot be released unless the AG chooses to do so and he can also edit the report as he sees fit. He can edit anything that may point to Trumps guilt. And leave anything that can be twisted that will show he had nothing to do with his advisors colluding.

The special council is not charged with providing a public accounting. That’s done by the AG.

But Muellar is not stupid he already has secret indictments with th courts with the grand jury and they remain secret until the offenders are charged then it becomes public information.

These secret indictments I am sure they are directed at the Trump crime family.

But now that the democrats have control of the House a real congressional investigation will be done. So there is lots of evidence that will become public.

It’s a tough thing now that Trump is starting to realize that congress has subpeana power and compel Trumps people to answer questions under oath.

So one way or another that full report will come out.

Have you looked into this issue.
Another factual post. But Bad Bob what is being fo... (show quote)


Not yet.

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Jan 17, 2019 16:35:27   #
woodguru
 
I have a top secret clearance, the way clearances work if any contact with Russians were not disclosed it would mean an immediate suspension of any access to classified information. It would be over.

Trump divulged Israeli sensitive information to Russian diplomats early on. It seems that it resulted in allies refusing to share sensitive information relevant to Russia because they know it will get to Putin.

In any sane world a president that can't be trusted with classified information shouldn't be president any longer, it should be over right then right there.

There is no conceivable reason for Trump, when he is already under suspicion, to meet with Putin alone.

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Jan 17, 2019 16:39:45   #
woodguru
 
Airforceone wrote:
Another factual post. But Bad Bob what is being forgotten is the Office of Legal council just formed an opinion. There is nothing in the constitution that says a sitting president cannot be indicted.

The Office of legal council did not address if Congress found crimes committed by the president then he should be impeached and then indicted.

What should be a concern is the Muellar report cannot be released unless the AG chooses to do so and he can also edit the report as he sees fit. He can edit anything that may point to Trumps guilt. And leave anything that can be twisted that will show he had nothing to do with his advisors colluding.

The special council is not charged with providing a public accounting. That’s done by the AG.

But Muellar is not stupid he already has secret indictments with th courts with the grand jury and they remain secret until the offenders are charged then it becomes public information.

These secret indictments I am sure they are directed at the Trump crime family.

But now that the democrats have control of the House a real congressional investigation will be done. So there is lots of evidence that will become public.

It’s a tough thing now that Trump is starting to realize that congress has subpeana power and compel Trumps people to answer questions under oath.

So one way or another that full report will come out.

Have you looked into this issue.
Another factual post. But Bad Bob what is being fo... (show quote)


I'm sure they would list indictable offenses as a reason for impeachment then proceed to the criminal process. Barr is sounding like he will keep congress from getting any information suggesting illegal actions because he believes a president cannot be indicted, thereby preventing them from seeing the reasons to impeach on those grounds.

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Jan 17, 2019 17:06:11   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
Kevyn wrote:
I hope they make their move soon and move the Pumpkinfuhrer from the White House to the big house!

Ok, so, what’s the plan? Impeach Trump, get Mike Pence, impeach Pence, just to get to Nancy? I don’t think time, or any evidence, is on your side...
How about instead, the Democrats win an e******n fairly? Obviously they couldn’t win one r****d for them...

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Jan 17, 2019 17:28:35   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
I have a top secret clearance, the way clearances work if any contact with Russians were not disclosed it would mean an immediate suspension of any access to classified information. It would be over.

Trump divulged Israeli sensitive information to Russian diplomats early on. It seems that it resulted in allies refusing to share sensitive information relevant to Russia because they know it will get to Putin.

In any sane world a president that can't be trusted with classified information shouldn't be president any longer, it should be over right then right there.

There is no conceivable reason for Trump, when he is already under suspicion, to meet with Putin alone.
I have a top secret clearance, the way clearances ... (show quote)


What about putting classified information on an unprotected and private server? Anything to that? LOL!

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Jan 17, 2019 17:29:44   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Ok, so, what’s the plan? Impeach Trump, get Mike Pence, impeach Pence, just to get to Nancy? I don’t think time, or any evidence, is on your side...
How about instead, the Democrats win an e******n fairly? Obviously they couldn’t win one r****d for them...


Well, they won the r****d primary. LOL!

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Jan 17, 2019 17:35:43   #
woodguru
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Ok, so, what’s the plan? Impeach Trump, get Mike Pence, impeach Pence, just to get to Nancy? I don’t think time, or any evidence, is on your side...
How about instead, the Democrats win an e******n fairly? Obviously they couldn’t win one r****d for them...


You think not?

Mueller's investigation into Trump and warnings from multiple sources that Flynn was c*********d have been done as thoroughly as they could possibly be done...and who was in the thick of it, saying he knew nothing to the american public, when as it turned out he did?

That would be Pence, on which I'm sure Mueller has covered in full detail including his lies to the public, their criminal statutes, and the fact that they are impeachable offenses.

So correct me if I'm wrong, if there are impeachable offenses on the record before he takes over, my guess is he never will.

Pelosi has almost as good a chance being president as Trump does of not being president, and I'm pretty sure the right would see that as a constitutional crisis.

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Jan 17, 2019 17:37:29   #
woodguru
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Ok, so, what’s the plan? Impeach Trump, get Mike Pence, impeach Pence, just to get to Nancy? I don’t think time, or any evidence, is on your side...
How about instead, the Democrats win an e******n fairly? Obviously they couldn’t win one r****d for them...


Are you sleeping through all of this? It was r****d for Trump not Hillary.

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Jan 17, 2019 18:41:14   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
Are you sleeping through all of this? It was r****d for Trump not Hillary.


Yes, all those Russian ads stirring up r****m was surely going to help the "r****t" Trump. LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And all those bots convincing people to v**e in a certain way. LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a crack up. One thing I DO know is that Hillary got the nomination thru a r****d primary, that much is certain!! Haven't you been paying attention?? Is this thing on??!!

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Jan 17, 2019 19:15:10   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Well, they won the r****d primary. LOL!

Lol !!

I know, poor Bernie, guess he got off easy, not committing suicide with two to the back of the head.

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Jan 17, 2019 19:17:14   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
woodguru wrote:
Are you sleeping through all of this? It was r****d for Trump not Hillary.

How was it r****d for Trump? Hard to find a poll back then that gave him a better than 30% chance to win.... or Hillary with less than 70%... yeah, I must have slept through all of it.

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Jan 17, 2019 19:31:19   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Yes, all those Russian ads stirring up r****m was surely going to help the "r****t" Trump. LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And all those bots convincing people to v**e in a certain way. LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a crack up. One thing I DO know is that Hillary got the nomination thru a r****d primary, that much is certain!! Haven't you been paying attention?? Is this thing on??!!


LO!!!


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