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Jan 16, 2019 13:30:54   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
How can you set there in the face of what total control over us as individuals here in the USA.
We are being faced with from the actions of Trump.
Just what from of government would you put what Trump is imposing on us now?

Just what type of control do the conservatives wish to have?
I say that if we as individuals would truly look with in our self.
We would find that we all have or need to have parts of each to survive.
To get along in life it is not a matter of either one.

But a balance between them both.
A balance that takes into account the various needs at any stage in life.
As children we need to live with in a caring & loving home.(Liberal).
While an adult member of that house hold is employed earning the funds needed(Conservative).
How can you set there in the face of what total co... (show quote)


You obviously have not looked at Trump's executive orders because the majority of them have removed restrictions that were needlessly applied under Obama. When you find out what kind of government Trump has really given to you come back and talk about it, because right now you are writing out of ignorance.

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Jan 16, 2019 13:32:32   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Any one can say yes or no.
Before one offers an opinion.
One needs to understand the ramifications of the issues.

I say it is time for you to get rid of the do it my way or hit the highway frame of mind.

The man in the chair in the White House has obligations to the people of this nation.
Obligations he chooses to ignore in fits of temperament.

Your blindness leaves you open to accepting much that you will come to regret.

Any one who would put aside convention & common sense is playing a losing game.
Any one can say yes or no. br Before one offers an... (show quote)


The man in the White House has an overriding requirement to secure the safety of this nations citizens. The wall has been debated and approved through the four preceding administrations but Congress has been reluctant to annoy their Hispanic v**er base. Consequently,. their feet must be held to the fire to force them to do what they have all agreed needed to be done. Stupid asides like Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall were nothing more than campaign bombast and these politicos know that full well. It is our security and our wall-- pay for it.

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Jan 16, 2019 13:36:10   #
Comment Loc: California
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Just who are the misinformed on this issue?
Who are those looking the other way while all of this is going on?
It is you & those that think like you as much or more than any one else.

While you hold on to Trump the day becomes ever closer to what you truly don't want.
Yes the nasty. (One World Order)

As long as there is no room in our system for liberal views.
Your views will become out dated.
A nation as divided as we are is a nation with out any real power.
It is all a smoke screen & hot air.
Just who are the misinformed on this issue? br Who... (show quote)


Dude: U are crazier than a pile of crap.

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Jan 16, 2019 13:43:12   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Comment wrote:
Dude: U are crazier than a pile of crap.


In the full scope of life a pile of crap has more value than any thing your adding to the mix of life.

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Jan 16, 2019 13:43:24   #
woodguru
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Trump HAPPY As Dems DESPERATE To Reopen Government Just Got Stopped DEAD In Their Tracks

https://youtu.be/KBpQo-aVdYg

Democrats must allow the barrier to be built first. fund it!

The Dems ask to open the government first, BUT in the past, they NEVER allowed funding for the wall in decades.
Who can trust liars?


The debate on border security and immigration is going to be a long one, and border security including sections of wall are part of it where they are appropriate.

If Trump was handed five billion for a wall, what would happen? He'd throw the money at a corporation like Halliburton, that would rush in (meaning pay overtime and rush rates) which gets far less wall for the money than if it is really carefully looked at and done. The whole concept of "give me the money for the wall" is truly i***tic.

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Jan 16, 2019 13:54:32   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
woodguru wrote:
The debate on border security and immigration is going to be a long one, and border security including sections of wall are part of it where they are appropriate.

If Trump was handed five billion for a wall, what would happen? He'd throw the money at a corporation like Halliburton, that would rush in (meaning pay overtime and rush rates) which gets far less wall for the money than if it is really carefully looked at and done. The whole concept of "give me the money for the wall" is truly i***tic.
The debate on border security and immigration is g... (show quote)

You can not say that until we get the $5.7Billion. If *(IF)* THE Money is not spent wisely, then I will be the first to v**e against Trump in the 2020 e******ns! If the money is spent wisely will you V**e for Trump in 2020?


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Jan 16, 2019 13:54:36   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
pafret wrote:
The man in the White House has an overriding requirement to secure the safety of this nations citizens. The wall has been debated and approved through the four preceding administrations but Congress has been reluctant to annoy their Hispanic v**er base. Consequently,. their feet must be held to the fire to force them to do what they have all agreed needed to be done. Stupid asides like Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall were nothing more than campaign bombast and these politicos know that full well. It is our security and our wall-- pay for it.
The man in the White House has an overriding req... (show quote)


Why then is he doing so may things adding to the problems many face today.

So why do you insist that we take his campaign bombast & make it a reality?
Because we see it all as bombast material we should make it all real for him?

Look around at the economic issues around the world to day.
The world is moving away from what the USA was & has become.

Our nation is losing it's position in the world around us.
The fate of our nations future is being cut to pieces before our very eyes.
The man in the white house is as much of a cause as any.

We are dying from with in.
There is no wall that can ever protect us from that.

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Jan 16, 2019 13:55:36   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
woodguru wrote:
The debate on border security and immigration is going to be a long one, and border security including sections of wall are part of it where they are appropriate.

If Trump was handed five billion for a wall, what would happen? He'd throw the money at a corporation like Halliburton, that would rush in (meaning pay overtime and rush rates) which gets far less wall for the money than if it is really carefully looked at and done. The whole concept of "give me the money for the wall" is truly i***tic.
The debate on border security and immigration is g... (show quote)


Sure, look at it for a couple of years. How many hundreds of thousands of i******s do you suppose will enter our nation while we debate the aesthetics of wall building?

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Jan 16, 2019 14:09:59   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Why then is he doing so may things adding to the problems many face today.

So why do you insist that we take his campaign bombast & make it a reality?
Because we see it all as bombast material we should make it all real for him?

Look around at the economic issues around the world to day.
The world is moving away from what the USA was & has become.

Our nation is losing it's position in the world around us.
The fate of our nations future is being cut to pieces before our very eyes.
The man in the white house is as much of a cause as any.

We are dying from with in.
There is no wall that can ever protect us from that.
Why then is he doing so may things adding to the p... (show quote)


It seems that you are severely challenged when it comes to separating substance from bombast.
The wall is key here, no one believes Trump could force Mexico to pay for the wall directly but if Trump succeed in eliminating the i******s currently in this country as well aps preventing new arrivals, the reduction in welfare, schooling and medical costs benefits will outweigh the wall cost by a hundred fold.

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Jan 16, 2019 15:44:16   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
pafret wrote:
Sure, look at it for a couple of years. How many hundreds of thousands of i******s do you suppose will enter our nation while we debate the aesthetics of wall building?


Ingraham: Who are the real shutdown opportunists?
https://youtu.be/fSmEu9S0eb4

The Dems are holding the people's pay checks hostage!!!!

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Jan 17, 2019 06:18:44   #
dilibar
 
Dems want America to become a third world country...so LEAVE & let us have our beautiful nation--& take all your terroristes, illegal alians & homos with you !

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Jan 17, 2019 07:09:27   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Floyd Brown wrote: “As children we need to live with in a caring & loving home.(Liberal).
While an adult member of that house hold is employed earning the funds needed(Conservative).”

This is precisely the problem with the liberal mindset.

I’ve got news for you: here in The USA, the “government” is NOT our parents, they are our SERVANTS for a limited and proscribed purpose only!

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Why don’t you c****e libs just go somewhere else where the government is designed to be your “parents” like you want and envision, and leave our personal freedom, and the personal responsibility that goes along with it, to us?

Answer, because of your second little Freudian slip:

“While an adult member of that house hold is employed earning the funds needed(Conservative).”

In other words, you l***hes know you need the working class (responsible adults,conservatives) because socialism only works until you run out of other people’s money!

You unamerican, Constitution-hating, t*****r! You people are the real problem with this country because YOU v**e in politicians to be, and who will gladly be, your nannies to rule over you like parents over children! If it were possible for you to grow up, you wouldn’t need or want your “government” to be your “parents”. You just don’t “get” what the USA is all about.

Take yourself and your overlording nannies (liberal politicians) and go away and quit stealing our money through taxes and go somewhere where that nanny-state system of government you want would be patriotic. Because here it is treasonously against our Constitution!

You uneducated, America-hating, socialists really tick me off with your entitlement garbage mindset!

You l***hes may need us, but we don’t need you sucking the life blood out of our country, now or ever!

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Jan 17, 2019 08:15:29   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Any one can say yes or no.
Before one offers an opinion.
One needs to understand the ramifications of the issues.

I say it is time for you to get rid of the do it my way or hit the highway frame of mind.

The man in the chair in the White House has obligations to the people of this nation.
Obligations he chooses to ignore in fits of temperament.

Your blindness leaves you open to accepting much that you will come to regret.

Any one who would put aside convention & common sense is playing a losing game.
Any one can say yes or no. br Before one offers an... (show quote)


amen

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Jan 17, 2019 08:25:32   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Trump HAPPY As Dems DESPERATE To Reopen Government Just Got Stopped DEAD In Their Tracks

https://youtu.be/KBpQo-aVdYg

Democrats must allow the barrier to be built first. fund it!

The Dems ask to open the government first, BUT in the past, they NEVER allowed funding for the wall in decades.
Who can trust liars?


Simply close all borders.. Invasion is a hostile act with another caravan coming too???

Good grief I’m sick if all of this!!
Trump needs to stand against it all because if not him no one else is that’s for sure!!

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Jan 17, 2019 08:43:27   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Floyd Brown wrote: “As children we need to live with in a caring & loving home.(Liberal).
While an adult member of that house hold is employed earning the funds needed(Conservative).”

This is precisely the problem with the liberal mindset.

I’ve got news for you: here in The USA, the “government” is NOT our parents, they are our SERVANTS for a limited and proscribed purpose only!

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Why don’t you c****e libs just go somewhere else where the government is designed to be your “parents” like you want and envision, and leave our personal freedom, and the personal responsibility that goes along with it, to us?

Answer, because of your second little Freudian slip:

“While an adult member of that house hold is employed earning the funds needed(Conservative).”

In other words, you l***hes know you need the working class (responsible adults,conservatives) because socialism only works until you run out of other people’s money!

You unamerican, Constitution-hating, t*****r! You people are the real problem with this country because YOU v**e in politicians to be, and who will gladly be, your nannies to rule over you like parents over children! If it were possible for you to grow up, you wouldn’t need or want your “government” to be your “parents”. You just don’t “get” what the USA is all about.

Take yourself and your overlording nannies (liberal politicians) and go away and quit stealing our money through taxes and go somewhere where that nanny-state system of government you want would be patriotic. Because here it is treasonously against our Constitution!

You uneducated, America-hating, socialists really tick me off with your entitlement garbage mindset!

You l***hes may need us, but we don’t need you sucking the life blood out of our country, now or ever!
Floyd Brown wrote: “As children we need to live wi... (show quote)


Thanks for taking the time to pick Floyd's BS apart!!!

"Floyd Brown wrote: “As children we need to live with in a caring & loving home.(Liberal).
While an adult member of that house hold is employed earning the funds needed(Conservative).”

This is precisely the problem with the liberal mindset.

I’ve got news for you: here in The USA, the “government” is NOT our parents, they are our SERVANTS for a limited and proscribed purpose only!

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Why don’t you c****e libs just go somewhere else where the government is designed to be your “parents” like you want and envision, and leave our personal freedom, and the personal responsibility that goes along with it, to us?

Answer, because of your second little Freudian slip:

“While an adult member of that house hold is employed earning the funds needed(Conservative).”

In other words, you l***hes know you need the working class (responsible adults,conservatives) because socialism only works until you run out of other people’s money!

You unamerican, Constitution-hating, t*****r! You people are the real problem with this country because YOU v**e in politicians to be, and who will gladly be, your nannies to rule over you like parents over children! If it were possible for you to grow up, you wouldn’t need or want your “government” to be your “parents”. You just don’t “get” what the USA is all about.

Take yourself and your overlording nannies (liberal politicians) and go away and quit stealing our money through taxes and go somewhere where that nanny-state system of government you want would be patriotic. Because here it is treasonously against our Constitution!

You uneducated, America-hating, socialists really tick me off with your entitlement garbage mindset!

You l***hes may need us, but we don’t need you sucking the life blood out of our country, now or ever!" -TommyRadd

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