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Jan 11, 2019 16:35:12   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
When asked, most people will tell you that the Civil War was as a result of southern states’ desire to keep s***ery. But scholars will tell you that the reasons for the conflict were much more unclear… the s***ery issue is a major factor, but taxation and states’ rights also played a large part.

Now, substitute the word “sanctuary” for “s***ery” and realize that the growing number of sanctuary cities, counties, and states are rapidly approaching the same mindset and financial picture that the Confederate States of America had from 1860 to 1865.

Civil War II has never been closer than it is today. Look at an updated map of the United States. It is readily apparent that the entire west coast, a large area in the upper midwest, and the upper northeast are already identified as sanctuary areas. These jurisdictions… heavily influenced by years of failed Democrat leadership, and now emboldened by anti-Trump sentiments, have undertaken the protection of i*****l i*******ts with the same enthusiasm as their s***ery-holding counterparts from the 1860s.


More recently, it started almost innocuously with certain Democrats refusing to call the border t***sgressors “i*****l i*******ts.” To soften the specter of illegality, “undocumented worker” was suggested by the Left. Not at all different from the s***eowners, who were willing to call their human s***es “property,” in order to get around the law.




As soon as the children of i*****l i*******ts were born here, and approached v****g age, they were given the romantic name “dreamers,” and Liberals from all levels of government rose up to protect them with specific legislation.

There followed, a determined, but low-key, all-out effort to excuse the illegality of those aliens who sneaked into the greatest nation on earth. And the self-identified sanctuary jurisdictions quickly became a haven for the huge number of i*****l a***ns… even those committing addition felonies while here. Hard-line Democrats became so vitriolic in defense of i*****l i*********n, that they even began to call for open borders. Many political arguments ensued, with the result being that Liberals began to legislate in favor of i*****l i*******ts over native-born citizens. Criticism of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents as heavy-handed and heartless followed. Sanctuary jurisdictions forbid their law enforcement officers from cooperating with ICE when i*****l i*******ts are apprehended, while some of the most extreme l*****ts called for the elimination of ICE altogether.

Enter Donal J. Trump, 45th President of the United States. Trump had been elected by a huge number of Americans disgusted by the i*********n l*wlessness being espoused and encouraged by Democrats and Liberals. Serious crimes committed by the millions of i*****l i*******ts already here began to draw major attention. The entire nation has grown all too familiar with the plights of i*****l i*********n victims Kate Steinle, and more recently, California police officer Ronil Singh.

But the Democrats, apparently unfazed by American victimization by i*****l i*******ts, marched on. California governor, Gavin Newsome, newly elected, immediately pronounced that his state would be the first ALL-SANCTUARY state in the nation. New York Mayor, Bill DeBlasio, followed with the announcement that New York City would become the first to give free healthcare to all residents… including i*****l i*******ts. Both men obviously unaware or not caring that their actions would soon attract thousands upon thousands of additional i*****l i*******ts. Much like uber-vocal open-border Liberals had KNOWINGLY lured thousands of Central Americans to the US southern border in the recent several well-publicized caravans.

Although Trump has law and history on his side, overcoming the destructiveness of sanctuary cities, states, and counties will not be easy. Like Liberal jurisdictions, some courts in the sanctuary jurisdictions are also Liberal, and willing to do anything to thwart Trump. The standoff between POTUS and the Schumer/Pelosi obstruction to a southern barrier has caused the federal government to be closed indefinitely. Trump’s every legal move is challenged and will be so until those Liberal courts are legally challenged and restructured. President Trump has threatened sanctuary jurisdictions with the loss of federal funds, and the issue, stopped by lower courts, awaits the ruling of the Supreme Court.

Despite the outcome of the Supreme Court’s anticipated interpretation of the law, approximately half of the country will still be angry. Whether or not they will be angry enough to secede from the Union is another question. But the similarities to the hard-nosed opposition by sanctuary jurisdictions to those states once protecting s***ery is real enough that Americans should be very worried.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author and are not not necessarily either shared or endorsed by iPatriot.com.

nor mine

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Jan 11, 2019 16:54:05   #
bahmer
 
badbobby wrote:
When asked, most people will tell you that the Civil War was as a result of southern states’ desire to keep s***ery. But scholars will tell you that the reasons for the conflict were much more unclear… the s***ery issue is a major factor, but taxation and states’ rights also played a large part.

Now, substitute the word “sanctuary” for “s***ery” and realize that the growing number of sanctuary cities, counties, and states are rapidly approaching the same mindset and financial picture that the Confederate States of America had from 1860 to 1865.

Civil War II has never been closer than it is today. Look at an updated map of the United States. It is readily apparent that the entire west coast, a large area in the upper midwest, and the upper northeast are already identified as sanctuary areas. These jurisdictions… heavily influenced by years of failed Democrat leadership, and now emboldened by anti-Trump sentiments, have undertaken the protection of i*****l i*******ts with the same enthusiasm as their s***ery-holding counterparts from the 1860s.


More recently, it started almost innocuously with certain Democrats refusing to call the border t***sgressors “i*****l i*******ts.” To soften the specter of illegality, “undocumented worker” was suggested by the Left. Not at all different from the s***eowners, who were willing to call their human s***es “property,” in order to get around the law.




As soon as the children of i*****l i*******ts were born here, and approached v****g age, they were given the romantic name “dreamers,” and Liberals from all levels of government rose up to protect them with specific legislation.

There followed, a determined, but low-key, all-out effort to excuse the illegality of those aliens who sneaked into the greatest nation on earth. And the self-identified sanctuary jurisdictions quickly became a haven for the huge number of i*****l a***ns… even those committing addition felonies while here. Hard-line Democrats became so vitriolic in defense of i*****l i*********n, that they even began to call for open borders. Many political arguments ensued, with the result being that Liberals began to legislate in favor of i*****l i*******ts over native-born citizens. Criticism of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents as heavy-handed and heartless followed. Sanctuary jurisdictions forbid their law enforcement officers from cooperating with ICE when i*****l i*******ts are apprehended, while some of the most extreme l*****ts called for the elimination of ICE altogether.

Enter Donal J. Trump, 45th President of the United States. Trump had been elected by a huge number of Americans disgusted by the i*********n l*wlessness being espoused and encouraged by Democrats and Liberals. Serious crimes committed by the millions of i*****l i*******ts already here began to draw major attention. The entire nation has grown all too familiar with the plights of i*****l i*********n victims Kate Steinle, and more recently, California police officer Ronil Singh.

But the Democrats, apparently unfazed by American victimization by i*****l i*******ts, marched on. California governor, Gavin Newsome, newly elected, immediately pronounced that his state would be the first ALL-SANCTUARY state in the nation. New York Mayor, Bill DeBlasio, followed with the announcement that New York City would become the first to give free healthcare to all residents… including i*****l i*******ts. Both men obviously unaware or not caring that their actions would soon attract thousands upon thousands of additional i*****l i*******ts. Much like uber-vocal open-border Liberals had KNOWINGLY lured thousands of Central Americans to the US southern border in the recent several well-publicized caravans.

Although Trump has law and history on his side, overcoming the destructiveness of sanctuary cities, states, and counties will not be easy. Like Liberal jurisdictions, some courts in the sanctuary jurisdictions are also Liberal, and willing to do anything to thwart Trump. The standoff between POTUS and the Schumer/Pelosi obstruction to a southern barrier has caused the federal government to be closed indefinitely. Trump’s every legal move is challenged and will be so until those Liberal courts are legally challenged and restructured. President Trump has threatened sanctuary jurisdictions with the loss of federal funds, and the issue, stopped by lower courts, awaits the ruling of the Supreme Court.

Despite the outcome of the Supreme Court’s anticipated interpretation of the law, approximately half of the country will still be angry. Whether or not they will be angry enough to secede from the Union is another question. But the similarities to the hard-nosed opposition by sanctuary jurisdictions to those states once protecting s***ery is real enough that Americans should be very worried.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author and are not not necessarily either shared or endorsed by iPatriot.com.

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Amen and Amen he has a lot of valid points comparing i*****l i*******ts to s***es and s***e holders I think that we are very near a not so civil war in this country and the left would literally love for that to happen.

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Jan 11, 2019 17:36:53   #
woodguru
 
badbobby wrote:
These jurisdictions… heavily influenced by years of failed Democrat leadership, and now emboldened by anti-Trump sentiments, have undertaken the protection of i*****l i*******ts with the same enthusiasm as their s***ery-holding counterparts from the 1860s.


It's interesting that these blue states are in far better economic shape than red states are

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Jan 11, 2019 17:43:10   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
woodguru wrote:
It's interesting that these blue states are in far better economic shape than red states are

How is that woody?

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Jan 11, 2019 17:44:18   #
badbob85037
 
badbobby wrote:
When asked, most people will tell you that the Civil War was as a result of southern states’ desire to keep s***ery. But scholars will tell you that the reasons for the conflict were much more unclear… the s***ery issue is a major factor, but taxation and states’ rights also played a large part.

Now, substitute the word “sanctuary” for “s***ery” and realize that the growing number of sanctuary cities, counties, and states are rapidly approaching the same mindset and financial picture that the Confederate States of America had from 1860 to 1865.

Civil War II has never been closer than it is today. Look at an updated map of the United States. It is readily apparent that the entire west coast, a large area in the upper midwest, and the upper northeast are already identified as sanctuary areas. These jurisdictions… heavily influenced by years of failed Democrat leadership, and now emboldened by anti-Trump sentiments, have undertaken the protection of i*****l i*******ts with the same enthusiasm as their s***ery-holding counterparts from the 1860s.


More recently, it started almost innocuously with certain Democrats refusing to call the border t***sgressors “i*****l i*******ts.” To soften the specter of illegality, “undocumented worker” was suggested by the Left. Not at all different from the s***eowners, who were willing to call their human s***es “property,” in order to get around the law.




As soon as the children of i*****l i*******ts were born here, and approached v****g age, they were given the romantic name “dreamers,” and Liberals from all levels of government rose up to protect them with specific legislation.

There followed, a determined, but low-key, all-out effort to excuse the illegality of those aliens who sneaked into the greatest nation on earth. And the self-identified sanctuary jurisdictions quickly became a haven for the huge number of i*****l a***ns… even those committing addition felonies while here. Hard-line Democrats became so vitriolic in defense of i*****l i*********n, that they even began to call for open borders. Many political arguments ensued, with the result being that Liberals began to legislate in favor of i*****l i*******ts over native-born citizens. Criticism of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents as heavy-handed and heartless followed. Sanctuary jurisdictions forbid their law enforcement officers from cooperating with ICE when i*****l i*******ts are apprehended, while some of the most extreme l*****ts called for the elimination of ICE altogether.

Enter Donal J. Trump, 45th President of the United States. Trump had been elected by a huge number of Americans disgusted by the i*********n l*wlessness being espoused and encouraged by Democrats and Liberals. Serious crimes committed by the millions of i*****l i*******ts already here began to draw major attention. The entire nation has grown all too familiar with the plights of i*****l i*********n victims Kate Steinle, and more recently, California police officer Ronil Singh.

But the Democrats, apparently unfazed by American victimization by i*****l i*******ts, marched on. California governor, Gavin Newsome, newly elected, immediately pronounced that his state would be the first ALL-SANCTUARY state in the nation. New York Mayor, Bill DeBlasio, followed with the announcement that New York City would become the first to give free healthcare to all residents… including i*****l i*******ts. Both men obviously unaware or not caring that their actions would soon attract thousands upon thousands of additional i*****l i*******ts. Much like uber-vocal open-border Liberals had KNOWINGLY lured thousands of Central Americans to the US southern border in the recent several well-publicized caravans.

Although Trump has law and history on his side, overcoming the destructiveness of sanctuary cities, states, and counties will not be easy. Like Liberal jurisdictions, some courts in the sanctuary jurisdictions are also Liberal, and willing to do anything to thwart Trump. The standoff between POTUS and the Schumer/Pelosi obstruction to a southern barrier has caused the federal government to be closed indefinitely. Trump’s every legal move is challenged and will be so until those Liberal courts are legally challenged and restructured. President Trump has threatened sanctuary jurisdictions with the loss of federal funds, and the issue, stopped by lower courts, awaits the ruling of the Supreme Court.

Despite the outcome of the Supreme Court’s anticipated interpretation of the law, approximately half of the country will still be angry. Whether or not they will be angry enough to secede from the Union is another question. But the similarities to the hard-nosed opposition by sanctuary jurisdictions to those states once protecting s***ery is real enough that Americans should be very worried.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author and are not not necessarily either shared or endorsed by iPatriot.com.

nor mine
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I was going to post this in an issue by it's self but it fits in here so well I will put it along with this. Terrorist from Africa, the Middle East, and Asia is up 300% crossing at our Southern Border and these are the ones that are caught.Read the article here: https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/1/messages/74229?.intl=us&.lang=en-US

I'm totally convinced this is way beyond stupid and it is a national mental health crises. Everyone sees how the West Coast has been destroyed by i******s, crime, drugs, and crazed L*****t. I wouldn't even call them Democrats any more. JFK was a Democrat that gave his life trying to warn us. The people didn't listen and the media was all ready bought and paid for. Because of Democrats we have an organized network of terrorist in this nation just waiting to strike. With a wide open border to think otherwise is the thinking of someone mentally incapable to thinking. With there being so many of these people I see no other way but a civil war to remove this cancer if it isn't already too late. All who care about America need to read the article including the mentally ill.

School children walk to school dodging dirty hypodermic needles and the addicts using them. Starbucks now offers needle disposal boxes. Sanitation workers hired to remove human feces from the streets. This is madness. Wh**ever it takes.or we will be destroyed.

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Jan 11, 2019 17:48:05   #
bahmer
 
badbob85037 wrote:
I was going to post this in an issue by it's self but it fits in here so well I will put it along with this. Terrorist from Africa, the Middle East, and Asia is up 300% crossing at our Southern Border and these are the ones that are caught.Read the article here: https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/1/messages/74229?.intl=us&.lang=en-US

I'm totally convinced this is way beyond stupid and it is a national mental health crises. Everyone sees how the West Coast has been destroyed by i******s, crime, drugs, and crazed L*****t. I wouldn't even call them Democrats any more. JFK was a Democrat that gave his life trying to warn us. The people didn't listen and the media was all ready bought and paid for. Because of Democrats we have an organized network of terrorist in this nation just waiting to strike. With a wide open border to think otherwise is the thinking of someone mentally incapable to thinking. With their being so many of these people I see no other way but a civil war to remove this cancer if it isn't already too late. All who care about America need to read the article including the mentally ill.

School children walk to school dodging dirty hypodermic needles and the addicts using them. Starbucks now offers needle disposal boxes. Sanitation workers hired to remove human feces from the streets. This is madness. Wh**ever it takes.or we will be destroyed.
I was going to post this in an issue by it's self ... (show quote)


If you could find this on anything other than Yahoo it would be appreciated. While I have yahoo it doesn't come up for me and I am not that computer literate enough to know what I am doing wrong.

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Jan 11, 2019 18:05:36   #
badbob85037
 
bahmer wrote:
If you could find this on anything other than Yahoo it would be appreciated. While I have yahoo it doesn't come up for me and I am not that computer literate enough to know what I am doing wrong.


Here is the story. The only thing yahoo about it is it came as an e-mail.

Migrants from Terrorist Nations Try to Enter U.S. Via Mexico at Record Rates—300% Hike in Bangladeshis in Texas Alone

Federal agents along the southern border routinely encounter individuals from terrorist nations and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) considers them one of the top threats to the United States, according to a congressional report made public this month. Titled “Stopping Terrorist Travel Through Illicit Pathways to the Homeland,” the document outlines the findings of a lengthy investigation involving Special Interest Aliens (SIA) by the House Homeland Security Committee.

SIA’s are individuals from countries outside the western hemisphere—mostly the Middle East, Asia and Africa—that pose a national security risk to the U.S. In Laredo, Texas alone there was an astounding 300% increase in immigrants from Bangladesh, a south Asian Islamic country well known as a recruiting ground for terrorist groups such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda Indian Subcontinent (AQIS).

Congressional investigators found that the number of SIAs flowing north via Latin America has increased tremendously in the last few years thanks to established T***sitional Criminal Organizations (TCO) that facilitate travel along drug and migrant smuggling routes. “On a recent Committee staff delegation trip to Latin America, Panamanian officials communicated to Committee staff that tens of thousands of SIAs have entered Panama since 2014,” the report states. “Colombian officials communicated similar numbers to Committee staff, stating that hundreds of SIAs have entered Colombia each year for the past few years. In both countries, nearly all the SIA migrants were headed to the United States and originated from the Middle East, Asia, and Africa—including Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Bangladesh, India, Eritrea, and many others. Additionally, encounters with these special interest individuals resulted in the seizure of tens of thousands of fraudulent documents—including passports and visas—that facilitated travel from their countries of origin through the Americas.”

The report includes several disturbing cases of Islamic terrorists who made it to the U.S. via Mexico. Among them are Mohammad Aldairi, a Jordanian arrested last summer in New York for illegally smuggling SIAs from Yemen across the U.S.-Mexico border into Texas.

Others include Pakistani Sharafat Ali Khan, convicted for smuggling fellow Pakistanis with terrorism ties into the U.S.; Somalian Abdullah Omar Fidse, a member of the al-Shabaab terrorist group; Somalian Ahmed Muhammed Dhakane, a member al-Qaeda linked al-Barakat and Al-Ittihad Al-Islami and Lebanese Mahmoud Yousef Kourani, a fighter, recruiter and fundraiser for Hezbollah.

Kourani paid a Beirut consular officer $3,000 for a Mexican visa and an additional $4,000 to be smuggled across the U.S.- Mexico border, according to information included in the report. Some of the other SIAs also operated smuggling rings through south and central America.

“Latin America and the Caribbean are the major initial entry points to the Western Hemisphere for SIAs,” the House Homeland Security Committee report states. “Many countries in the region continue to face economic and governance challenges, as well as consistently high levels of violent crime. Additionally, many of the countries in the Americas have lenient visa and immigration policies in place, even for individuals from ‘special interest’ countries.

Lastly, the frequency of international flights from ‘special interest’ regions around the world into Latin America and the Caribbean continues to increase. These regional issues create an attractive environment for illicit travel of SIAs and other nefarious actors into the Western Hemisphere with the end goal of reaching the United States.”

Adding to the problem is that Hezbollah is “growing at an alarming rate in Latin America,” according to Committee investigators. “Designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) by the State Department, Hezbollah has been operating in Latin America since the early 1990s when it worked with Iran to carry out the 1994 bombing of a Jewish Community Center in Argentina,” according to the report.

The House investigation found that, as of September 2018, a record 630 Bangladeshi nationals have been arrested trying to enter the U.S. illegally in Laredo, Texas alone. That marks a 300% increase from the previous year. “The routes facilitating the illicit travel of these Bangladeshis are mostly controlled by TCOs and drug cartels, which charge tens of thousands of dollars to smuggle SIAs and other migrants across the U.S.,” the committee writes.

It also confirms what Judicial Watch reported months ago, that the recent migrant caravan has included several SIAs and suspected terrorists. Judicial Watch traveled to the Guatemala-Honduras border back in October and government sources in Guatemala confirmed that SIAs waiting to get smuggled into the U.S. through Central America integrated with poor Hondurans in the caravan. Among them were nationals of Bangladesh, which appears on the Treasury Office of Foreign Asset Control’s Counter Terrorism Designations list.

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Jan 11, 2019 18:12:24   #
bahmer
 
badbob85037 wrote:
Here is the story. The only thing yahoo about it is it came as an e-mail.

Migrants from Terrorist Nations Try to Enter U.S. Via Mexico at Record Rates—300% Hike in Bangladeshis in Texas Alone

Federal agents along the southern border routinely encounter individuals from terrorist nations and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) considers them one of the top threats to the United States, according to a congressional report made public this month. Titled “Stopping Terrorist Travel Through Illicit Pathways to the Homeland,” the document outlines the findings of a lengthy investigation involving Special Interest Aliens (SIA) by the House Homeland Security Committee.

SIA’s are individuals from countries outside the western hemisphere—mostly the Middle East, Asia and Africa—that pose a national security risk to the U.S. In Laredo, Texas alone there was an astounding 300% increase in immigrants from Bangladesh, a south Asian Islamic country well known as a recruiting ground for terrorist groups such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda Indian Subcontinent (AQIS).

Congressional investigators found that the number of SIAs flowing north via Latin America has increased tremendously in the last few years thanks to established T***sitional Criminal Organizations (TCO) that facilitate travel along drug and migrant smuggling routes. “On a recent Committee staff delegation trip to Latin America, Panamanian officials communicated to Committee staff that tens of thousands of SIAs have entered Panama since 2014,” the report states. “Colombian officials communicated similar numbers to Committee staff, stating that hundreds of SIAs have entered Colombia each year for the past few years. In both countries, nearly all the SIA migrants were headed to the United States and originated from the Middle East, Asia, and Africa—including Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Bangladesh, India, Eritrea, and many others. Additionally, encounters with these special interest individuals resulted in the seizure of tens of thousands of fraudulent documents—including passports and visas—that facilitated travel from their countries of origin through the Americas.”

The report includes several disturbing cases of Islamic terrorists who made it to the U.S. via Mexico. Among them are Mohammad Aldairi, a Jordanian arrested last summer in New York for illegally smuggling SIAs from Yemen across the U.S.-Mexico border into Texas.

Others include Pakistani Sharafat Ali Khan, convicted for smuggling fellow Pakistanis with terrorism ties into the U.S.; Somalian Abdullah Omar Fidse, a member of the al-Shabaab terrorist group; Somalian Ahmed Muhammed Dhakane, a member al-Qaeda linked al-Barakat and Al-Ittihad Al-Islami and Lebanese Mahmoud Yousef Kourani, a fighter, recruiter and fundraiser for Hezbollah.

Kourani paid a Beirut consular officer $3,000 for a Mexican visa and an additional $4,000 to be smuggled across the U.S.- Mexico border, according to information included in the report. Some of the other SIAs also operated smuggling rings through south and central America.

“Latin America and the Caribbean are the major initial entry points to the Western Hemisphere for SIAs,” the House Homeland Security Committee report states. “Many countries in the region continue to face economic and governance challenges, as well as consistently high levels of violent crime. Additionally, many of the countries in the Americas have lenient visa and immigration policies in place, even for individuals from ‘special interest’ countries.

Lastly, the frequency of international flights from ‘special interest’ regions around the world into Latin America and the Caribbean continues to increase. These regional issues create an attractive environment for illicit travel of SIAs and other nefarious actors into the Western Hemisphere with the end goal of reaching the United States.”

Adding to the problem is that Hezbollah is “growing at an alarming rate in Latin America,” according to Committee investigators. “Designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) by the State Department, Hezbollah has been operating in Latin America since the early 1990s when it worked with Iran to carry out the 1994 bombing of a Jewish Community Center in Argentina,” according to the report.

The House investigation found that, as of September 2018, a record 630 Bangladeshi nationals have been arrested trying to enter the U.S. illegally in Laredo, Texas alone. That marks a 300% increase from the previous year. “The routes facilitating the illicit travel of these Bangladeshis are mostly controlled by TCOs and drug cartels, which charge tens of thousands of dollars to smuggle SIAs and other migrants across the U.S.,” the committee writes.

It also confirms what Judicial Watch reported months ago, that the recent migrant caravan has included several SIAs and suspected terrorists. Judicial Watch traveled to the Guatemala-Honduras border back in October and government sources in Guatemala confirmed that SIAs waiting to get smuggled into the U.S. through Central America integrated with poor Hondurans in the caravan. Among them were nationals of Bangladesh, which appears on the Treasury Office of Foreign Asset Control’s Counter Terrorism Designations list.
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Thank you for taking the time to copy and paste this report for me. I am thinking more along the lines of live ammo being brought to bear on these i******s. Maybe seeing dead bodies stacked up on the Mexican side might serve as a deterrent to these i******s seeking to gain entry into these United States of America. What do you think if we can't get a wall then lets use live ammo until the democrats get some sense.

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Jan 11, 2019 18:31:25   #
badbob85037
 
We have a military and thousands of .50 BMGs in cosmoline which would be very cost efficient and more intimidating than any wall.

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Jan 11, 2019 19:21:44   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
badbobby wrote:
When asked, most people will tell you that the Civil War was as a result of southern states’ desire to keep s***ery. But scholars will tell you that the reasons for the conflict were much more unclear… the s***ery issue is a major factor, but taxation and states’ rights also played a large part.

Now, substitute the word “sanctuary” for “s***ery” and realize that the growing number of sanctuary cities, counties, and states are rapidly approaching the same mindset and financial picture that the Confederate States of America had from 1860 to 1865.

Civil War II has never been closer than it is today. Look at an updated map of the United States. It is readily apparent that the entire west coast, a large area in the upper midwest, and the upper northeast are already identified as sanctuary areas. These jurisdictions… heavily influenced by years of failed Democrat leadership, and now emboldened by anti-Trump sentiments, have undertaken the protection of i*****l i*******ts with the same enthusiasm as their s***ery-holding counterparts from the 1860s.


More recently, it started almost innocuously with certain Democrats refusing to call the border t***sgressors “i*****l i*******ts.” To soften the specter of illegality, “undocumented worker” was suggested by the Left. Not at all different from the s***eowners, who were willing to call their human s***es “property,” in order to get around the law.




As soon as the children of i*****l i*******ts were born here, and approached v****g age, they were given the romantic name “dreamers,” and Liberals from all levels of government rose up to protect them with specific legislation.

There followed, a determined, but low-key, all-out effort to excuse the illegality of those aliens who sneaked into the greatest nation on earth. And the self-identified sanctuary jurisdictions quickly became a haven for the huge number of i*****l a***ns… even those committing addition felonies while here. Hard-line Democrats became so vitriolic in defense of i*****l i*********n, that they even began to call for open borders. Many political arguments ensued, with the result being that Liberals began to legislate in favor of i*****l i*******ts over native-born citizens. Criticism of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents as heavy-handed and heartless followed. Sanctuary jurisdictions forbid their law enforcement officers from cooperating with ICE when i*****l i*******ts are apprehended, while some of the most extreme l*****ts called for the elimination of ICE altogether.

Enter Donal J. Trump, 45th President of the United States. Trump had been elected by a huge number of Americans disgusted by the i*********n l*wlessness being espoused and encouraged by Democrats and Liberals. Serious crimes committed by the millions of i*****l i*******ts already here began to draw major attention. The entire nation has grown all too familiar with the plights of i*****l i*********n victims Kate Steinle, and more recently, California police officer Ronil Singh.

But the Democrats, apparently unfazed by American victimization by i*****l i*******ts, marched on. California governor, Gavin Newsome, newly elected, immediately pronounced that his state would be the first ALL-SANCTUARY state in the nation. New York Mayor, Bill DeBlasio, followed with the announcement that New York City would become the first to give free healthcare to all residents… including i*****l i*******ts. Both men obviously unaware or not caring that their actions would soon attract thousands upon thousands of additional i*****l i*******ts. Much like uber-vocal open-border Liberals had KNOWINGLY lured thousands of Central Americans to the US southern border in the recent several well-publicized caravans.

Although Trump has law and history on his side, overcoming the destructiveness of sanctuary cities, states, and counties will not be easy. Like Liberal jurisdictions, some courts in the sanctuary jurisdictions are also Liberal, and willing to do anything to thwart Trump. The standoff between POTUS and the Schumer/Pelosi obstruction to a southern barrier has caused the federal government to be closed indefinitely. Trump’s every legal move is challenged and will be so until those Liberal courts are legally challenged and restructured. President Trump has threatened sanctuary jurisdictions with the loss of federal funds, and the issue, stopped by lower courts, awaits the ruling of the Supreme Court.

Despite the outcome of the Supreme Court’s anticipated interpretation of the law, approximately half of the country will still be angry. Whether or not they will be angry enough to secede from the Union is another question. But the similarities to the hard-nosed opposition by sanctuary jurisdictions to those states once protecting s***ery is real enough that Americans should be very worried.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author and are not not necessarily either shared or endorsed by iPatriot.com.

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I am an armed citizen and I'll fight to the end defending my own. I don't believe in starting trouble and I won't tolerate it being brought to me. If a State or group of states wants to secede that is their buisness. It is their foolishness and they can take their chances. God bless the USA.

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Jan 11, 2019 20:52:14   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I am an armed citizen and I'll fight to the end defending my own. I don't believe in starting trouble and I won't tolerate it being brought to me. If a State or group of states wants to secede that is their buisness. It is their foolishness and they can take their chances. God bless the USA.



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Jan 11, 2019 20:53:02   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
badbobby wrote:
When asked, most people will tell you that the Civil War was as a result of southern states’ desire to keep s***ery. But scholars will tell you that the reasons for the conflict were much more unclear… the s***ery issue is a major factor, but taxation and states’ rights also played a large part.

Now, substitute the word “sanctuary” for “s***ery” and realize that the growing number of sanctuary cities, counties, and states are rapidly approaching the same mindset and financial picture that the Confederate States of America had from 1860 to 1865.

Civil War II has never been closer than it is today. Look at an updated map of the United States. It is readily apparent that the entire west coast, a large area in the upper midwest, and the upper northeast are already identified as sanctuary areas. These jurisdictions… heavily influenced by years of failed Democrat leadership, and now emboldened by anti-Trump sentiments, have undertaken the protection of i*****l i*******ts with the same enthusiasm as their s***ery-holding counterparts from the 1860s.


More recently, it started almost innocuously with certain Democrats refusing to call the border t***sgressors “i*****l i*******ts.” To soften the specter of illegality, “undocumented worker” was suggested by the Left. Not at all different from the s***eowners, who were willing to call their human s***es “property,” in order to get around the law.




As soon as the children of i*****l i*******ts were born here, and approached v****g age, they were given the romantic name “dreamers,” and Liberals from all levels of government rose up to protect them with specific legislation.

There followed, a determined, but low-key, all-out effort to excuse the illegality of those aliens who sneaked into the greatest nation on earth. And the self-identified sanctuary jurisdictions quickly became a haven for the huge number of i*****l a***ns… even those committing addition felonies while here. Hard-line Democrats became so vitriolic in defense of i*****l i*********n, that they even began to call for open borders. Many political arguments ensued, with the result being that Liberals began to legislate in favor of i*****l i*******ts over native-born citizens. Criticism of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents as heavy-handed and heartless followed. Sanctuary jurisdictions forbid their law enforcement officers from cooperating with ICE when i*****l i*******ts are apprehended, while some of the most extreme l*****ts called for the elimination of ICE altogether.

Enter Donal J. Trump, 45th President of the United States. Trump had been elected by a huge number of Americans disgusted by the i*********n l*wlessness being espoused and encouraged by Democrats and Liberals. Serious crimes committed by the millions of i*****l i*******ts already here began to draw major attention. The entire nation has grown all too familiar with the plights of i*****l i*********n victims Kate Steinle, and more recently, California police officer Ronil Singh.

But the Democrats, apparently unfazed by American victimization by i*****l i*******ts, marched on. California governor, Gavin Newsome, newly elected, immediately pronounced that his state would be the first ALL-SANCTUARY state in the nation. New York Mayor, Bill DeBlasio, followed with the announcement that New York City would become the first to give free healthcare to all residents… including i*****l i*******ts. Both men obviously unaware or not caring that their actions would soon attract thousands upon thousands of additional i*****l i*******ts. Much like uber-vocal open-border Liberals had KNOWINGLY lured thousands of Central Americans to the US southern border in the recent several well-publicized caravans.

Although Trump has law and history on his side, overcoming the destructiveness of sanctuary cities, states, and counties will not be easy. Like Liberal jurisdictions, some courts in the sanctuary jurisdictions are also Liberal, and willing to do anything to thwart Trump. The standoff between POTUS and the Schumer/Pelosi obstruction to a southern barrier has caused the federal government to be closed indefinitely. Trump’s every legal move is challenged and will be so until those Liberal courts are legally challenged and restructured. President Trump has threatened sanctuary jurisdictions with the loss of federal funds, and the issue, stopped by lower courts, awaits the ruling of the Supreme Court.

Despite the outcome of the Supreme Court’s anticipated interpretation of the law, approximately half of the country will still be angry. Whether or not they will be angry enough to secede from the Union is another question. But the similarities to the hard-nosed opposition by sanctuary jurisdictions to those states once protecting s***ery is real enough that Americans should be very worried.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author and are not not necessarily either shared or endorsed by iPatriot.com.

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Good read... Thanks Badbobby...
Certainly hope it never comes to that...

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Jan 11, 2019 22:17:02   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I am an armed citizen and I'll fight to the end defending my own. I don't believe in starting trouble and I won't tolerate it being brought to me. If a State or group of states wants to secede that is their buisness. It is their foolishness and they can take their chances. God bless the USA.


Tom, we're on the same page, paragraph, and sentence.

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Jan 12, 2019 06:59:42   #
Idaho
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I am an armed citizen and I'll fight to the end defending my own. I don't believe in starting trouble and I won't tolerate it being brought to me. If a State or group of states wants to secede that is their buisness. It is their foolishness and they can take their chances. God bless the USA.


The seaboard halves of Oregon, Washington and California are welcome to secede without a civil war taking place.

Then if it is the creater’s will, everything West of the SAN Andreas falls into the Ocean, the parallel chain of volcanoes start gong off, burying much of what’s left under lava and triggering tsunamis to take out anything left.

Let the articles of succession be consummated well BEFORE the rest of us get obligated to pay for the emergency relief funds.

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Jan 12, 2019 09:03:28   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Idaho wrote:
The seaboard halves of Oregon, Washington and California are welcome to secede without a civil war taking place.

Then if it is the creater’s will, everything West of the SAN Andreas falls into the Ocean, the parallel chain of volcanoes start gong off, burying much of what’s left under lava and triggering tsunamis to take out anything left.

Let the articles of succession be consummated well BEFORE the rest of us get obligated to pay for the emergency relief funds.
I went to south junior high in Boise. I was always amazed with bread loaf rock and I went to camp Tapawingo on Payette lake got my drivers license when I was 14 and loved swimming in the hot springs in Idaho city. I would h**e to see Yellowstone erupt and destroy it all. God Bless Coos County my home.

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