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Jan 17, 2019 12:40:34   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Capt-jack wrote:
Millions of people and many not legal get SS/disability which pays even more. Many are kids, it has been turned into a welfare system, never set up for this. It was designed for old people, not kids whos parents are s**mmers.


So, why do you suppose those bureaucrats that administer the Social Security program are allowing that to happen? Or, are they? Or, just using the as a cover up because the crooks in Congress already stole the money?

You know you sheople are really gullible when it comes to politicians lying to them.

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Jan 18, 2019 10:36:52   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
buffalo wrote:
So, why do you suppose those bureaucrats that administer the Social Security program are allowing that to happen? Or, are they? Or, just using the as a cover up because the crooks in Congress already stole the money?

You know you sheople are really gullible when it comes to politicians lying to them.


Well, you said it...."That's what you do. You drink moonshine and know things..."
Not many things, I must say!

It's all about politic and politicians. They make the laws, many bad. The loony Left always screaming about the Rich Right Wingers when they are the rich one in Congress and the Senate. AOC had to borrow money for clothes last month, but when she runs for ree******n in two years she will be a millionaire. And you would v**e for her.
If you check back just 100 years we had very few laws, America was a very rich nation and the wife stayed home and cared for the kids, but with hundreds of laws and regulation and taxes, it takes both husband and wife to make ends meet and sometimes it never meets. So, with all the taxes paid into the government why are we 21 trillion in debt? And getting more in debt at one million per second?
You make lots of noise buy no sense.

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Jan 18, 2019 12:35:11   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Capt-jack wrote:
Well, you said it...."That's what you do. You drink moonshine and know things..."
Not many things, I must say!

It's all about politic and politicians. They make the laws, many bad. The loony Left always screaming about the Rich Right Wingers when they are the rich one in Congress and the Senate. AOC had to borrow money for clothes last month, but when she runs for ree******n in two years she will be a millionaire. And you would v**e for her.
If you check back just 100 years we had very few laws, America was a very rich nation and the wife stayed home and cared for the kids, but with hundreds of laws and regulation and taxes, it takes both husband and wife to make ends meet and sometimes it never meets. So, with all the taxes paid into the government why are we 21 trillion in debt? And getting more in debt at one million per second?
You make lots of noise buy no sense.
Well, you said it...."That's what you do. You... (show quote)


Show me where I have ever "screamed" about "Rich right Wingers" and not at the same time "screamed" about rich left wingers. Both Houses of Congress are full of rich right and left wingers. Yep back in the Gilded Age (Gilded’ is not golden. ‘Gilded’ has the sense of a patina covering something else. It’s the shiny exterior and the rot underneath.) wealth ine******y and working conditions and wages for the poor, especially children was worse than even today thanks to VERY FEW LAWS back then. The inequalities of the "Gilded Age gave rise to the Populist Movement.

There have been several major cycles of ine******y in the U.S. since then: the mitigation of ine******y during the Progressive era, the return to ine******y in the 1920s, the great equalizer that was the Great Depression and the New Deal, and then the rise of ine******y once again in the late 20th century. That trend has continued to this day, and Americans are now living in an era that has been called a new Gilded Age.

I'll bet, in your misguided, uninformed assessment of me, YOU think I v**ed for his oliness , which I never did. Nor would I ever v**e for the horse toothed AOC either.

IF, you had been around longer and read many of my post you would see that I do not consider myself a liberal or conservative, a dim-o-crap or repulsive. I see the 2 parties as merely the left and right arms of the one corporate party as the problem. Politicans from both arms are just monkeys for the corporate and wealthy bankster organ grinders. It is the corporate\government collusion that is ALWAYS the cause of most of the problems in the US whether real or "manufactured". It is the TRILLIONS the US's has spent waging continual, illegal, unConstitutional, immoral warmongering and the 3 TRILLION dollars of taxpayer money the Pentagon has stolen that they say they cannot account for, that has this country drowning in debt. Yet the greedy crooks in DC through their corporate masters blame America's financial problems on social spending where more good is done than war. They NEVER mention the fact that corporate WELFARE (tax cuts, direct subsidies, lucrative taxpayer money wasting contracts, cost overruns, loan guarantees than end in bankruptcy with never a prosecution of a CEO or corporate board for wrong doings). Social Security has never added ONE penny to the national debt yet politicans constantly call for the need of benefits cuts. The blaming of Medicare (which the majority funded by direct taxes) and Medicaid while private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations extort $600 BILLION from the US health CARE system of which not ONE penny pays for anyones' health CARE.

Your mistake is that you blame "liberals"--"dim-o-craps" for everything when in fact it is "conservatives"--"repulsives" that are just as must to blame. During his oliness' tenure in office 90% of all incomes gains went to the 1% wealthiest. Yet, along comes trumpy and gives the wealthy and mega-corporations an unnecessary tax cut with the lie that it will "trickle down" to the middle and working classes. BULLS**T!

Corporations and government are synonymous when it comes to screwing the middle and poor working class taxpayers.

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Jan 19, 2019 08:33:14   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
buffalo wrote:
Show me where I have ever "screamed" about "Rich right Wingers" and not at the same time "screamed" about rich left wingers. Both Houses of Congress are full of rich right and left wingers. Yep back in the Gilded Age (Gilded’ is not golden. ‘Gilded’ has the sense of a patina covering something else. It’s the shiny exterior and the rot underneath.) wealth ine******y and working conditions and wages for the poor, especially children was worse than even today thanks to VERY FEW LAWS back then. The inequalities of the "Gilded Age gave rise to the Populist Movement.

There have been several major cycles of ine******y in the U.S. since then: the mitigation of ine******y during the Progressive era, the return to ine******y in the 1920s, the great equalizer that was the Great Depression and the New Deal, and then the rise of ine******y once again in the late 20th century. That trend has continued to this day, and Americans are now living in an era that has been called a new Gilded Age.

I'll bet, in your misguided, uninformed assessment of me, YOU think I v**ed for his oliness , which I never did. Nor would I ever v**e for the horse toothed AOC either.

IF, you had been around longer and read many of my post you would see that I do not consider myself a liberal or conservative, a dim-o-crap or repulsive. I see the 2 parties as merely the left and right arms of the one corporate party as the problem. Politicans from both arms are just monkeys for the corporate and wealthy bankster organ grinders. It is the corporate\government collusion that is ALWAYS the cause of most of the problems in the US whether real or "manufactured". It is the TRILLIONS the US's has spent waging continual, illegal, unConstitutional, immoral warmongering and the 3 TRILLION dollars of taxpayer money the Pentagon has stolen that they say they cannot account for, that has this country drowning in debt. Yet the greedy crooks in DC through their corporate masters blame America's financial problems on social spending where more good is done than war. They NEVER mention the fact that corporate WELFARE (tax cuts, direct subsidies, lucrative taxpayer money wasting contracts, cost overruns, loan guarantees than end in bankruptcy with never a prosecution of a CEO or corporate board for wrong doings). Social Security has never added ONE penny to the national debt yet politicans constantly call for the need of benefits cuts. The blaming of Medicare (which the majority funded by direct taxes) and Medicaid while private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations extort $600 BILLION from the US health CARE system of which not ONE penny pays for anyones' health CARE.

Your mistake is that you blame "liberals"--"dim-o-craps" for everything when in fact it is "conservatives"--"repulsives" that are just as must to blame. During his oliness' tenure in office 90% of all incomes gains went to the 1% wealthiest. Yet, along comes trumpy and gives the wealthy and mega-corporations an unnecessary tax cut with the lie that it will "trickle down" to the middle and working classes. BULLS**T!

Corporations and government are synonymous when it comes to screwing the middle and poor working class taxpayers.
Show me where I have ever "screamed" abo... (show quote)



You suffer from a warped outlook on life, my friend. You think life should be a utopia. It is not and never will be.
Tell me, how does one give a tax break to one who pays zero taxes? You say words that the Left are always saying, probably the reason I think you are a LIB.
Seems you don't like the Right or the Left, so who do you like?

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Jan 19, 2019 08:42:24   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Capt-jack wrote:
You suffer from a warped outlook on life, my friend. You think life should be a utopia. It is not and never will be.
Tell me, how does one give a tax break to one who pays zero taxes? You say words that the Left are always saying, probably the reason I think you are a LIB.
Seems you don't like the Right or the Left, so who do you like?


I don't like people like you that accuse me of saying things I did not say. I did not say that those that don't pay income taxes need a tax break. (Besides, working people do pay taxes) What is said was "Yet, along comes trumpy and gives the wealthy and mega-corporations an unnecessary tax cut with the lie that it will "trickle down" to the middle and working classes. BULLS**T!" "Trickle down" in the form of jobs and higher wages. Which it has NOT!

Myself!

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Jan 19, 2019 10:01:13   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
buffalo wrote:
I don't like people like you that accuse me of saying things I did not say. I did not say that those that don't pay income taxes need a tax break. (Besides, working people do pay taxes) What is said was "Yet, along comes trumpy and gives the wealthy and mega-corporations an unnecessary tax cut with the lie that it will "trickle down" to the middle and working classes. BULLS**T!" "Trickle down" in the form of jobs and higher wages. Which it has NOT!

Myself!


I did not accuse you of saying anything, I just posted what you said!
Writing to you is waste of time, as you never will see the facts, like just 1% of the working people
pay about 40% of the income tax, but I bet you think they are not paying enough. Can you name a
wealthy country with no rick people? And who do the working people you speak of work? Do you think
they are working for poor people? How does that work? It does not, smart hard working people that
have a good idea make stuff people like and buy, and the smart hard working guy hires people to work for him and he takes his money and builds a bigger store/factory/building and this is what we call Capitalism.
Maybe you can understand that, maybe not. I don't care.

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Jan 20, 2019 08:55:05   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Capt-jack wrote:
I did not accuse you of saying anything, I just posted what you said!
Writing to you is waste of time, as you never will see the facts, like just 1% of the working people
pay about 40% of the income tax, but I bet you think they are not paying enough. Can you name a
wealthy country with no rick people? And who do the working people you speak of work? Do you think
they are working for poor people? How does that work? It does not, smart hard working people that
have a good idea make stuff people like and buy, and the smart hard working guy hires people to work for him and he takes his money and builds a bigger store/factory/building and this is what we call Capitalism.
Maybe you can understand that, maybe not. I don't care.
I did not accuse you of saying anything, I just po... (show quote)


Stop with the trickle down bulls**t.

It is NOT that the top 1% of working people pay 40% of the income tax, it is what percent of their incomes they do pay in total taxes. The top 1% wealthiest mostly do not even work. 60% of their income is from capital gains and dividends that is taxed at a lower rate and not even taxed for Social Security and Medicare. Why is that?

The bottom 20% poorest working class actually pay a larger percentage of their incomes in state and local taxes.

When all federal, state, and local taxes are taken into account, the bottom fifth of households pays about 16 percent of their incomes in taxes, on average. The second-poorest fifth pays about 21 percent.

All this BEFORE trumpy's INCOME tax cuts for the wealthy and mega corporations. He didn't cut the myriad of other taxes, payroll, excise, state and local taxes that affect the lowest 40% of incomes more.





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Jan 20, 2019 09:25:15   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
buffalo wrote:
Stop with the trickle down bulls**t.

It is NOT that the top 1% of working people pay 40% of the income tax, it is what percent of their incomes they do pay in total taxes. The top 1% wealthiest mostly do not even work. 60% of their income is from capital gains and dividends that is taxed at a lower rate and not even taxed for Social Security and Medicare. Why is that?

The bottom 20% poorest working class actually pay a larger percentage of their incomes in state and local taxes.

When all federal, state, and local taxes are taken into account, the bottom fifth of households pays about 16 percent of their incomes in taxes, on average. The second-poorest fifth pays about 21 percent.

All this BEFORE trumpy's INCOME tax cuts for the wealthy and mega corporations. He didn't cut the myriad of other taxes, payroll, excise, state and local taxes that affect the lowest 40% of incomes more.
Stop with the trickle down bulls**t. br br It i... (show quote)



You do not know what you are talking about! My wife is a CPA has to pass very hard test to do taxes and does lots of tax returns. You are mouthing what the c****e left claim, that's the real BS. It's obvious you are an attendee of our public school educational system.

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Jan 20, 2019 09:37:06   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Capt-jack wrote:
You do not know what you are talking about! My wife is a CPA has to pass very hard test to do taxes and does lots of tax returns. You are mouthing what the c****e left claim, that's the real BS. It's obvious you are an attendee of our public school educational system.


All that blather, while you ignored all the fact I presented that refuted your bulls**t about the mistreated rich paying income taxes while ignoring other taxes to make a phony point.

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Jan 21, 2019 10:33:45   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
buffalo wrote:
All that blather, while you ignored all the fact I presented that refuted your bulls**t about the mistreated rich paying income taxes while ignoring other taxes to make a phony point.


Like I said, you do not know what you speak of. The lower 40+% of taxpayers pay nothing zero. They get all the tax they paid during the year and get it all back, plus if they have kids they get $14,000 more then they paid and it's taxes the upper taxpayers have paid!! I guess you failed to understand that Trump gave everyone a doubling of the personal deduction to $20,000.
I have to assume you do not live in America and that is the reason you are having trouble understanding.

If you are an American, you are one sad one.

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Jan 21, 2019 11:59:56   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Capt-jack wrote:
Like I said, you do not know what you speak of. The lower 40+% of taxpayers pay nothing zero. They get all the tax they paid during the year and get it all back, plus if they have kids they get $14,000 more then they paid and it's taxes the upper taxpayers have paid!! I guess you failed to understand that Trump gave everyone a doubling of the personal deduction to $20,000.
I have to assume you do not live in America and that is the reason you are having trouble understanding.

If you are an American, you are one sad one.
Like I said, you do not know what you speak of. ... (show quote)


To come up with that drivel you ignore a lot of the t***h. Why are you against the poor and working class having enough money to live decently on while the rich take 90%? IF you are an American, you are a pathetic one.

You probably love it that the government doles more in corporate welfare, tax cuts, tax subsidies, direct subsidies, off shoring of income, grants, etc than the government doles out in social welfare.

"I guess you failed to understand that Trump gave everyone a doubling of the personal deduction to $20,000." THAT IS an OUTRIGHT LIE! Proof you know nothing about trumpy's uneeded tax cuts for the wealthy and mega-corporations and screwing of the middle and working classes.

Here's the important fine print: "To simplify the tax rules, the additional standard deduction and the personal exemptions for taxpayer and spouse are consolidated into this larger standard deduction."

Here's how that math works. Let's say you are single with no dependents, and you have a moderate income. Currently, you get to take the standard deduction ($6,350) and one personal exemption ($4,050). If you are 65 or older, you also get to take an additional standard deduction ($1,250). That adds up to $10,400, or $11,650 if you're over 65.

The Republican plan would replace all these provisions with a single deduction of $12,000 ($24,000 for married couples.) That's a 15% increase — except for seniors, who get a 3% increase.

LOOK it up!

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Jan 23, 2019 18:04:13   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
buffalo wrote:
To come up with that drivel you ignore a lot of the t***h. Why are you against the poor and working class having enough money to live decently on while the rich take 90%? IF you are an American, you are a pathetic one.

You probably love it that the government doles more in corporate welfare, tax cuts, tax subsidies, direct subsidies, off shoring of income, grants, etc than the government doles out in social welfare.

"I guess you failed to understand that Trump gave everyone a doubling of the personal deduction to $20,000." THAT IS an OUTRIGHT LIE! Proof you know nothing about trumpy's uneeded tax cuts for the wealthy and mega-corporations and screwing of the middle and working classes.

Here's the important fine print: "To simplify the tax rules, the additional standard deduction and the personal exemptions for taxpayer and spouse are consolidated into this larger standard deduction."

Here's how that math works. Let's say you are single with no dependents, and you have a moderate income. Currently, you get to take the standard deduction ($6,350) and one personal exemption ($4,050). If you are 65 or older, you also get to take an additional standard deduction ($1,250). That adds up to $10,400, or $11,650 if you're over 65.

The Republican plan would replace all these provisions with a single deduction of $12,000 ($24,000 for married couples.) That's a 15% increase — except for seniors, who get a 3% increase.

LOOK it up!
To come up with that drivel you ignore a lot of th... (show quote)



You are one dumb fool, who is telling you all this crap. I will not communicate with jerks, it gains nothing. DONE WITH YOU.

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Jan 24, 2019 05:48:09   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Capt-jack wrote:
You are one dumb fool, who is telling you all this crap. I will not communicate with jerks, it gains nothing. DONE WITH YOU.


Why don't you educate yourself? Because you still don't have a clue. I could really give a fat rats ass about your blathering to me.

http://thinkbynumbers.org/government-spending/corporate-welfare/corporate-vs-social-welfare/

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/corporate-welfare-lives

http://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2014/03/14/where-is-the-outrage-over-corporate-welfare/#47a5e80d27dd

http://www.c***tsheet.com/money-career/high-on-the-hog-the-top-8-corporate-welfare-recipients.html/

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