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Jan 10, 2019 20:14:48   #
peter11937
 
peg w wrote:
Great wall of china did not work. The Mongels went right over it.


them 1,000 yeas of trying . Even then they were ultimately defeated.

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Jan 10, 2019 20:17:52   #
peter11937
 
Klee wrote:
I'm pretty sure those walls were built for invaders wanting to take over the countries. They were military invaders. Our southern border is not the same.


They want our wealth, taking it by other than by a force of arms does not make it a non issue.

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Jan 10, 2019 20:22:02   #
Crayons (a regular here)
 
http://www.borderlandbeat.com will tell all the hippy's here the severity of the violence along the Rio

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Jan 10, 2019 20:58:02   #
Carol Kelly (a regular here)
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Prisons need to get rid of their walls. Construction companies need to open the gates and tear down their fences exposing their materials to all citizens and non-citizens, leave your keys in your cars, your wallet on the back porch, your purse in your shopping cart, and all the animals in the zoo should be released.

According to Chuckie and Rancid, who say to the Americans as they leave their gated mansions: How can you be in favor of the wall? It’s downright immoral!


BRAVO!!!

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Jan 10, 2019 21:04:36   #
PLT Sarge
 
Yes, some of them are military invaders. MS 13. Our southern border is the same, these people are illegal. I have no problem with a person coming to this country and going through the legal process. I had a Hispanic guy in my platoon, took twenty-two years for him to receive his citizenship. First thing he did was join the Army. When I asked him why, he said "I felt like I should give something back". These are the people we need. Not those that come demanding entry in order to drain our Country, to live off the taxpayers. Side note, he was an outstanding soldier. I helped him and when I retired he had made the rank of PLT Sarge.
Klee wrote:
I'm pretty sure those walls were built for invaders wanting to take over the countries. They were military invaders. Our southern border is not the same.

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Jan 10, 2019 21:07:47   #
Klee
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Prisons need to get rid of their walls. Construction companies need to open the gates and tear down their fences exposing their materials to all citizens and non-citizens, leave your keys in your cars, your wallet on the back porch, your purse in your shopping cart, and all the animals in the zoo should be released.

According to Chuckie and Rancid, who say to the Americans as they leave their gated mansions: How can you be in favor of the wall? It’s downright immoral!


It's this which makes you sound silly. Maybe you're blowing off steam, I know how frustrating it can be when our politicians can't agree. Both sides need to chill and try to compromise. Trump is as bad as Chuck and Nancy.

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Jan 10, 2019 21:14:55   #
tbutkovich
 
peg w wrote:
I can see that the wallmis immoral, just stupid, and a way
Trump may use to grab power.


Peg,

Maybe the Banks should leave the keys to your safe deposit box on the counter, maybe the banks should leave the vault door open, maybe they should leave the bank doors open at night. Maybe we should shutdown all security surveillance cameras. Would that make you happy?

You lack total wisdom because you have been brain washed!

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Jan 10, 2019 21:15:31   #
Klee
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Yes, some of them are military invaders. MS 13. Our southern border is the same, these people are illegal. I have no problem with a person coming to this country and going through the legal process. I had a Hispanic guy in my platoon, took twenty-two years for him to receive his citizenship. First thing he did was join the Army. When I asked him why, he said "I felt like I should give something back". These are the people we need. Not those that come demanding entry in order to drain our Country, to live off the taxpayers. Side note, he was an outstanding soldier. I helped him and when I retired he had made the rank of PLT Sarge.
Yes, some of them are military invaders. MS 13. Ou... (show quote)


There are good and bad in all cultures. I agree they should come in legally, Ellis Island should open back up for immigrants to come through like in the old days. There are tempers flaring on both sides of the fence. I wonder if everyone just step away for a while and calm down.

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Jan 10, 2019 21:18:53   #
Klee
 
peter11937 wrote:
They want our wealth, taking it by other than by a force of arms does not make it a non issue.


I didn't mean it that way. China was fighting the Mongols, Israel is fighting Palestine, we aren't at war with Mexico.

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Jan 10, 2019 21:21:56   #
Klee
 
tbutkovich wrote:
PEG

Why do you have walls in your house? Just Curious!


I'm not peg but we have walls to hold up the roof and when we have company we have privacy to go to the bathroom.

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Jan 10, 2019 21:31:19   #
tbutkovich
 
RT friend wrote:
That's true but so are bridges, the idea is for you (me) personally to be on the winning side, we just use our best judgment.

Now ,! this is deep, ideology can't be right every time, if it could, bad would be always chasing good which is absurd, because who would ever fess up to being bad, except Leroy Brown, so we got to ask ourselves xactly why did Leyroy do it.

I personally think it was his GF, furthermore I also believe that what she had over him was all to do with the Great Apes that's the fringe elements of the Democrats, they will win on demography it's not ideology it's instinct.

We've always grappled with it overall I think we were winning until about 60 years ago, but good must always be the under dog, I wish I had such a GF, how sad.

That's true but so are bridges, the idea is for yo... (show quote)


Your gifted, you should write a mystery novel! The greatest mystery is trying to figure out what you just said!

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Jan 10, 2019 21:37:59   #
tbutkovich
 
Klee wrote:
There are good and bad in all cultures. I agree they should come in legally, Ellis Island should open back up for immigrants to come through like in the old days. There are tempers flaring on both sides of the fence. I wonder if everyone just step away for a while and calm down.


Klee,

Who designated you the OPP mediator?

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Jan 10, 2019 21:47:15   #
tbutkovich
 
Klee,

If you would read more and find out what’s really going on related to the border, you would be enlightened, but like so many of your comrades, you read one left wing artical or watch one left-wing MSM News byte and you think you are an expert. You also need to read the Bible. My tolerance level for the ignorant is very low. Do your research before you take a stand on this forum.

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Jan 10, 2019 22:19:24   #
tbutkovich
 
Klee

American’s are dying at the hands of the illegals! How can you be so blythe on this issue? What will it take to convince you we need the wall? Perhaps the “death of one of your family members” will help you or others come to the conclusion that: “We Need The Wall.”

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Jan 10, 2019 22:41:41   #
JFlorio (a regular here)
 
We are at war with the cartels. 90% of heroine comes through the southern border. 300 Americans a day die from heroine overdoses. Sounds like a real war to me.
Klee wrote:
I didn't mean it that way. China was fighting the Mongols, Israel is fighting Palestine, we aren't at war with Mexico.

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