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Jan 9, 2019 15:26:21   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
This is a hard question to answer since they have stood only for trying to stand in the way of Donald Trump. It has been hard to remember the days when they were anything other than obstruction experts, but Trump has been in office nearly 24 months and they have slipped a long way since he beat their heroine, Hillary in that e******n.

I always think about the old days when they were willing to try to act like a bipartisan group. However, those days were before either Chunk Schumer or Nasty Nancy were leaders of the party. Wouldn't it be something to have those two forced to become less partisan and more interested in helping the people of the United States.

https://libertynewsnow.com/remember-when-the-democratic-party-actually-stood-for-something/article10408

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Jan 9, 2019 15:30:51   #
woodguru
 
Remember when republicans believed in fiscal responsibility?

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Jan 9, 2019 16:09:35   #
Airforceone
 
oldroy wrote:
This is a hard question to answer since they have stood only for trying to stand in the way of Donald Trump. It has been hard to remember the days when they were anything other than obstruction experts, but Trump has been in office nearly 24 months and they have slipped a long way since he beat their heroine, Hillary in that e******n.

I always think about the old days when they were willing to try to act like a bipartisan group. However, those days were before either Chunk Schumer or Nasty Nancy were leaders of the party. Wouldn't it be something to have those two forced to become less partisan and more interested in helping the people of the United States.

https://libertynewsnow.com/remember-when-the-democratic-party-actually-stood-for-something/article10408
This is a hard question to answer since they have ... (show quote)


The Democratic still stands for something.

Democrats for Common sense gun control not taking your guns away. 307 k**led in mass k*****g last year and what is the Republican option ( DO NOTHING)

Democrats for comprehensive tax reform where all US tax payer pay there fair share. (REPUBLICANS AGENDA TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY AND EXPLODE THE DEFICIT)

Democrats for Healthcare for pre existing conditions. ( REPLICANS WANT TO REPEAL HEALTHCARE AND TAJE HEALTH INSURANCE AWAY FROM 28 MILLION PEOPLE)

Democrats are for Comprehensive immigration reform and updating technology to catch i******s and drugs at our ports of entry. ( REPUBLICANS FOR A $30 BILLION WALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT THAT NOBODY WANTS AND TRUMP RALLIED HIS BASE BY SAYING MEXICO WILL PAY.) (THEN ACT LIKE A CHILD AND SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT IF THEY DON’T GET WHAT THEY WANT)

Democrats believe in Clean Air And Clean Water. (REPUBLICANS REPEALED THE CLEAN AIR AND WATER ACT)

Democrats are for SS, Medicare, And Medicaid, (REPUBLICANS WANT TO DUMP MEDICAID AND PRIVATIZE SS AND MEDICARE.)

Democrats are for properly funding our educational system. (REPUBLICANS WANT TO TURN OUR EDUCSTIONAL SYSTEM OVER TO CHARTER SCHOOLS)

I could go on and on but for what purpose when I read that democrats use to stand for something well they don’t only stand for something but they have to battle southern ignorance to facts that does get in the way of progress.

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Jan 9, 2019 16:23:19   #
Rose42
 
oldroy wrote:
This is a hard question to answer since they have stood only for trying to stand in the way of Donald Trump. It has been hard to remember the days when they were anything other than obstruction experts, but Trump has been in office nearly 24 months and they have slipped a long way since he beat their heroine, Hillary in that e******n.

I always think about the old days when they were willing to try to act like a bipartisan group. However, those days were before either Chunk Schumer or Nasty Nancy were leaders of the party. Wouldn't it be something to have those two forced to become less partisan and more interested in helping the people of the United States.

https://libertynewsnow.com/remember-when-the-democratic-party-actually-stood-for-something/article10408
This is a hard question to answer since they have ... (show quote)


Democrats have shown repeatedly they have no integrity. You'll get the odd Senator or Congressman who does but that's rare - its rare in either party.

I remember when Reagan was president he and Speaker Tip O'Neil were friendly. When Newt Gingrich became speaker the days of reaching across the aisle were changed drastically. I remember those days and how dirty Gingrich got. The democrats were by no means lily white but Gingrich's actions changed politics for the worse.

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Jan 9, 2019 16:38:29   #
Liberty Tree
 
Airforceone wrote:
The Democratic still stands for something.

Democrats for Common sense gun control not taking your guns away. 307 k**led in mass k*****g last year and what is the Republican option ( DO NOTHING)

Democrats for comprehensive tax reform where all US tax payer pay there fair share. (REPUBLICANS AGENDA TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY AND EXPLODE THE DEFICIT)

Democrats for Healthcare for pre existing conditions. ( REPLICANS WANT TO REPEAL HEALTHCARE AND TAJE HEALTH INSURANCE AWAY FROM 28 MILLION PEOPLE)

Democrats are for Comprehensive immigration reform and updating technology to catch i******s and drugs at our ports of entry. ( REPUBLICANS FOR A $30 BILLION WALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT THAT NOBODY WANTS AND TRUMP RALLIED HIS BASE BY SAYING MEXICO WILL PAY.) (THEN ACT LIKE A CHILD AND SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT IF THEY DON’T GET WHAT THEY WANT)

Democrats believe in Clean Air And Clean Water. (REPUBLICANS REPEALED THE CLEAN AIR AND WATER ACT)

Democrats are for SS, Medicare, And Medicaid, (REPUBLICANS WANT TO DUMP MEDICAID AND PRIVATIZE SS AND MEDICARE.)

Democrats are for properly funding our educational system. (REPUBLICANS WANT TO TURN OUR EDUCSTIONAL SYSTEM OVER TO CHARTER SCHOOLS)

I could go on and on but for what purpose when I read that democrats use to stand for something well they don’t only stand for something but they have to battle southern ignorance to facts that does get in the way of progress.
The Democratic still stands for something. br br... (show quote)


Nice try at spin, but not shrouded in t***h.

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Jan 9, 2019 16:44:02   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
oldroy wrote:
This is a hard question to answer since they have stood only for trying to stand in the way of Donald Trump. It has been hard to remember the days when they were anything other than obstruction experts, but Trump has been in office nearly 24 months and they have slipped a long way since he beat their heroine, Hillary in that e******n.

I always think about the old days when they were willing to try to act like a bipartisan group. However, those days were before either Chunk Schumer or Nasty Nancy were leaders of the party. Wouldn't it be something to have those two forced to become less partisan and more interested in helping the people of the United States.

https://libertynewsnow.com/remember-when-the-democratic-party-actually-stood-for-something/article10408
This is a hard question to answer since they have ... (show quote)


They are now the "wereagainit" party. What ever Pres. Trump wants, they're against it!

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Jan 9, 2019 16:49:31   #
JoyV
 
oldroy wrote:
This is a hard question to answer since they have stood only for trying to stand in the way of Donald Trump. It has been hard to remember the days when they were anything other than obstruction experts, but Trump has been in office nearly 24 months and they have slipped a long way since he beat their heroine, Hillary in that e******n.

I always think about the old days when they were willing to try to act like a bipartisan group. However, those days were before either Chunk Schumer or Nasty Nancy were leaders of the party. Wouldn't it be something to have those two forced to become less partisan and more interested in helping the people of the United States.

https://libertynewsnow.com/remember-when-the-democratic-party-actually-stood-for-something/article10408
This is a hard question to answer since they have ... (show quote)


I remember. It ended with JFK.

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Jan 9, 2019 16:52:47   #
Liberty Tree
 
peter11937 wrote:
They are now the "wereagainit" party. What ever Pres. Trump wants, they're against it!


They h**e the second amendment, want all Americans on socialized health care, resist any attempt to really reduce spending, want more i*****l i*******ts to turn into Democrat v**ers, have turned our public schools into liberal indoctrination centers, etc. I could go on, but you understand.

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Jan 9, 2019 16:58:16   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
They h**e the second amendment, want all Americans on socialized health care, resist any attempt to really reduce spending, want more i*****l i*******ts to turn into Democrat v**ers, have turned our public schools into liberal indoctrination centers, etc. I could go on, but you understand.


Sure do, they are amoral with no center and who's sole ambition is the accumulation of power.

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Jan 9, 2019 17:00:50   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Rose42 wrote:
Democrats have shown repeatedly they have no integrity. You'll get the odd Senator or Congressman who does but that's rare - its rare in either party.

I remember when Reagan was president he and Speaker Tip O'Neil were friendly. When Newt Gingrich became speaker the days of reaching across the aisle were changed drastically. I remember those days and how dirty Gingrich got. The democrats were by no means lily white but Gingrich's actions changed politics for the worse.


You're dead wrong. Your president with the zipper snake problem could never have made it if Newt and his Contract with America had not drug Clinton kicking and screaming to the finish line. However, contrary to the urban legend, there was no surplus. The Clinton legacy was created through the efforts of Newt.

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Jan 9, 2019 17:09:44   #
Rose42
 
padremike wrote:
You're dead wrong. Your president with the zipper snake problem could never have made it if Newt and his Contract with America had not drug Clinton kicking and screaming to the finish line. However, contrary to the urban legend, there was no surplus. The Clinton legacy was created through the efforts of Newt.


I am not a democrat and didn't v**e for Clinton who was your president too.

No I am not wrong. Gingrich had a big role in making partisan politics uglier and dirtier. Even republicans admit that.

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Jan 9, 2019 17:21:06   #
JoyV
 
Airforceone wrote:
The Democratic still stands for something.

Democrats for Common sense gun control not taking your guns away. 307 k**led in mass k*****g last year and what is the Republican option ( DO NOTHING)

Democrats for comprehensive tax reform where all US tax payer pay there fair share. (REPUBLICANS AGENDA TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY AND EXPLODE THE DEFICIT)

Democrats for Healthcare for pre existing conditions. ( REPLICANS WANT TO REPEAL HEALTHCARE AND TAJE HEALTH INSURANCE AWAY FROM 28 MILLION PEOPLE)

Democrats are for Comprehensive immigration reform and updating technology to catch i******s and drugs at our ports of entry. ( REPUBLICANS FOR A $30 BILLION WALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT THAT NOBODY WANTS AND TRUMP RALLIED HIS BASE BY SAYING MEXICO WILL PAY.) (THEN ACT LIKE A CHILD AND SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT IF THEY DON’T GET WHAT THEY WANT)

Democrats believe in Clean Air And Clean Water. (REPUBLICANS REPEALED THE CLEAN AIR AND WATER ACT)

Democrats are for SS, Medicare, And Medicaid, (REPUBLICANS WANT TO DUMP MEDICAID AND PRIVATIZE SS AND MEDICARE.)

Democrats are for properly funding our educational system. (REPUBLICANS WANT TO TURN OUR EDUCSTIONAL SYSTEM OVER TO CHARTER SCHOOLS)

I could go on and on but for what purpose when I read that democrats use to stand for something well they don’t only stand for something but they have to battle southern ignorance to facts that does get in the way of progress.
The Democratic still stands for something. br br... (show quote)


1) Since when is gun control about keeping your guns?
2) Higher taxes do NOT help the middle class and small business. But higher taxes can help large businesses by clearing the field of small businesses.
3) Dems want to keep the exorbitant unaffordable Affordable Health Care, which not only was so costly but eliminated health insurance coverage both for those who could not afford the premiums and for those living where insurance companies left because they found it unprofitable to stay leaving some regions with NO authorized insurance companies at all. While Trump and his followers want those issues repealed as well as other restrictions. As for pre-existing conditions, it was when Obama began pushing for his health care plan that coverage for pre existing conditions began to be lost. A year-by-year analysis shows a significant increase in the number of coverage denials each year. The insurance companies denied coverage to 172,400 people in 2007 and 221,400 people in 2008. By 2009, the number of individuals denied coverage rose to 257,100.Between 2007 and 2009, the number of people denied coverage for pre-existing conditions increased 49%. But they are covered under the Trump repeal and replace. https://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/about-the-aca/pre-existing-conditions/index.html
4) WE ALREADY use the most currently available high tech in border security. Giving amnesty will NOT solve anything!!!!
5) Under Trump more wetlands have been cleaned so far than all of the Obama years. Simply handing over more taxpayer's money will not necessarily accomplish the job. More money which is not spent effectively is not only a waste, but can actually cause more harm than no money at all.
6) SS has increased under Trump. As have services for veterans.
7) Giving parents a choice of public schools will only reduce funding to district based public schools if the district schools are under performing. Parents want the best education for their kids. Provide it in the district schools and the students and funding will stay there

But nice try.

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Jan 9, 2019 17:37:11   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Rose42 wrote:
I am not a democrat and didn't v**e for Clinton who was your president too.

No I am not wrong. Gingrich had a big role in making partisan politics uglier and dirtier. Even republicans admit that.


Fighting back against wrong/evil is not the same thing as Progressive Parisian politics. I do not remember any Conservatives complain/admit that Newt made partisan politics uglier and nastier. There may have been some RINO's but who listens to them except Progressives? Quite frankly, it's past time for Conservatives to fight back as viciously as Progressives. Robert's Rules of Order do not work in an all out war for survival.

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Jan 9, 2019 17:56:49   #
Rose42
 
padremike wrote:
Fighting back against wrong/evil is not the same thing as Progressive Parisian politics. I do not remember any Conservatives complain/admit that Newt made partisan politics uglier and nastier. There may have been some RINO's but who listens to them except Progressives? Quite frankly, it's past time for Conservatives to fight back as viciously as Progressives. Robert's Rules of Order do not work in an all out war for survival.


They weren't all RINOs and conservatives such as George Will and Charles Krauthammer were very critical of him.

I'm not for Conservatives to be vicious like Progressives despite the evil progressivism brings. The t***h stands on its own merit. If people reject it then so be it but that doesn't mean we give up. However, you can't force feed the t***h. I'm sure you must have personal experience with this if you've ever had conversations with atheists.

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Jan 9, 2019 18:24:49   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Rose42 wrote:
They weren't all RINOs and conservatives such as George Will and Charles Krauthammer were very critical of him.

I'm not for Conservatives to be vicious like Progressives despite the evil progressivism brings. The t***h stands on its own merit. If people reject it then so be it but that doesn't mean we give up. However, you can't force feed the t***h. I'm sure you must have personal experience with this if you've ever had conversations with atheists.


Sorry to vehemently disagree. 20 years in the military tells me that when it comes to defending our nation being passive means we loose. When one considers what compromise with Progressives has this far cost America, especially Christians, we have lost ground and continue to lose more every day. We need political and spiritual warriors. Unless, of course, one expects our Lord to speak for us from Heaven instead of we being His voice and hands here on earth. You forget that in a world awash with moral relativism and nihilism T***h has become far too subjective for many to grasp any absolute t***h. Vigorously fighting against the Progressive philosophy and agenda is just!

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