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Jan 10, 2019 20:40:09   #
Canuckus Deploracus (a regular here)
 
Seth wrote:
I knew Trump was going to be POTUS by the middle of the first primary debate, and told people that at the time, and being in NYC, I wasn't believed much.

Why did he win? Because he cares more about the middle class, who are a hell of a lot more important in this country than the rich liberal elitists the Democratic Party sucks up to as a matter of course, who THINK they're of some significance to the rest of the population.


I picked him out at the same time...
And was ridiculed rather vehemently for it..
But, last laughs and all that...

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Jan 10, 2019 20:50:30   #
waltmoreno (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Did you get a good return from his single "accomplishment" which is , as well as all of his "intentions" and
"wants" harmful to the middle class and working class..

Strange how and empty head seeks an overflow to fill the space with anything handy..


Who the hell cares what Rob Reiner thinks? That's Meathead. Archie Bunker was right about Meathead. So get back to arguing with Archie and quit spouting off your opinion on political matters. Nobody cares.

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Jan 10, 2019 21:04:55   #
Seth (a regular here)
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I picked him out at the same time...
And was ridiculed rather vehemently for it..
But, last laughs and all that...


That just proves the *new adage that thinking right is synonymous with being right.


*I say "new" adage because I don't think there's an old adage to that effect.

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Jan 11, 2019 08:31:50   #
lindajoy (a regular here)
 
buffalo wrote:
The more I can keep the gang here on OPP accusing me of being either a conservative as some accuse me or a liberal as some accuse me or wondering just what I am on a "political spectrum" the better I like it.

You see, I do not consider myself a liberal or conservative, I am not a democrat or republican, I like to try to speak to the unvarnished truth no matter whose toes I step on. I hold NO party convictions.

As you should have realized by now, I never voted for his Oliness (obammy) and saw him as just another corporate puppet. The ACA, with its mandate, was nothing but a gift to the private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations and did nothing to help the average family get affordable health CARE. After all 90% of the income gains during his reign went to the 1% wealthy elite. But the economy did start improving for the average worker in 2014 and has continued. I did/do see him as a mooslime sympathizer and stirring up racial tensions.

I was/am against trumpy's tax cuts for the wealthy and mega-corporations and the LIE that it will "trickle down and help the middle and working classes. Unemployment was already declining BEFORE trumpy and his tax cut. I do not think a wall is the solution to the invasion of the US by illegals, criminals, drugs, gang members and sex traffickers.

I do support and advocate for universal health CARE like Medicare for All. Expanding the current Medicare system, combing the budgets of Medicaid and the VA health CARE system to cover every man, woman and child CITIZEN of the US and paying fopr it by raising the 2.9 Medicare tax to 5% and make the unearned incomes of the wealthy (dividends and capital gains) subject to the Medicare and social Security taxes and lifting the ceiling in Social Security to include ALL incomes.

I think the witch hunt against trumpy and anybody that ever even spoke to him is ridiculous when the worst criminals in DC reside amoung the rank of the dems themselves. It's kind of like letting the insane run the insane asylum.

If that makes me a conundrum to most here, then I have been true to MY convictions.
The more I can keep the gang here on OPP accusing ... (show quote)


Since you neglected to say it I will say it for you...

You are also fair with all and debate based on facts not only opinion..

Debating with you is a pleasure and you often give me plenty to either research or simply think about.. I enjoy that very much.,

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Jan 11, 2019 08:48:14   #
Canuckus Deploracus (a regular here)
 
lindajoy wrote:
Since you neglected to say it I will say it for you...

You are also fair with all and debate based on facts not only opinion..

Debating with you is a pleasure and you often give me plenty to either research or simply think about.. I enjoy that very much.,


Seconded... It's also a pleasure to engage with someone who debates based upon personal opinions rather than party lines... Too few of those here on the OPP (in my opinion)..

And I that include you as well lovely Lindajoy

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Jan 11, 2019 09:07:13   #
lindajoy (a regular here)
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Seconded... It's also a pleasure to engage with someone who debates based upon personal opinions rather than party lines... Too few of those here on the OPP (in my opinion)..

And I that include you as well lovely Lindajoy


We once again, agree!! Getting a bit scarey, lololol...

My grandfather was party line republican and as I grew realized it to a fault.. We would debate often and once, only once, did I ask for his opinion not party BS.. Boy he gave me a seething 20 minute argument that left me numb, until he closed with “and I appreciate you standing on your principal too.. I love you for it...” Ironically I never forgot what he told me..

People like that are gone now.. They are party liners so brainwashed they do not think for themself unfortunately....

I am glad you include me as I included you from the moment I started reading your very sound posts...Besides your precious little loves’ face is permanently affixed in my brain and heart now too!!!❤️

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Jan 11, 2019 09:13:19   #
Bad Bob
 
permafrost wrote:
Strange remark coming from an orange echo...



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Jan 11, 2019 09:27:15   #
buffalo
 
lindajoy wrote:
Since you neglected to say it I will say it for you...

You are also fair with all and debate based on facts not only opinion..

Debating with you is a pleasure and you often give me plenty to either research or simply think about.. I enjoy that very much.,


You are too kind, gentle lady. I have said it before that I am an equal opportunity basher (harsh critic or opponent) LOL

It is likewise a "pleasure" debating with you, although I suspect we agree on more things than not.

It is a blistering 49F here in Central Texas this morning with a chance of rain. As you know both my children (son and daughter) live in Minnesota. I know it is cold there

Hope your day is filled with the happiness of good things and joy.

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Jan 11, 2019 09:30:04   #
buffalo
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Seconded... It's also a pleasure to engage with someone who debates based upon personal opinions rather than party lines... Too few of those here on the OPP (in my opinion)..

And I that include you as well lovely Lindajoy


Thanks, Canuckus Deploracus! My brother's wife of 20 years is Canadian born and raised.

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Jan 11, 2019 11:44:17   #
bdamage (a regular here)
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
What will it be next week?


Well Tom, there's another "migrant caravan"(15,000 strong) that's supposed to leave Honduras on Jan 15th...so that would be next week.

Oh....and then there's this in the coming weeks...



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Jan 11, 2019 11:55:59   #
Morgan (a regular here)
 
Seth wrote:
I knew Trump was going to be POTUS by the middle of the first primary debate, and told people that at the time, and being in NYC, I wasn't believed much.

Why did he win? Because he cares more about the middle class, who are a hell of a lot more important in this country than the rich liberal elitists the Democratic Party sucks up to as a matter of course, who THINK they're of some significance to the rest of the population.


He won from the 3 way split of the left, Hillary, Bernie, and don't like either and so I'm not voting.

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Jan 11, 2019 13:17:49   #
Seth (a regular here)
 
Morgan wrote:
... and don't like either and so I'm not voting.


It's too late, anyway. The election was 26 months ago.

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Jan 11, 2019 13:30:45   #
buffalo
 
Morgan wrote:
He won from the 3 way split of the left, Hillary, Bernie, and don't like either and so I'm not voting.


Bitch clinton and her DNC apparatchiks cheated Bernie out od any chance or being the dim-o-crap nominee.
Trumpy won the popular vote in MOST of the states not just the left coast so he beat the bitch.

I am no great fan of trumpy but I ain't whining about it either. It is time to get over it. He is going to be your POTUS for probably the next 6 years whether you like it or not.

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Jan 11, 2019 16:47:53   #
Morgan (a regular here)
 
Seth wrote:
It's too late, anyway. The election was 26 months ago.


Yes...just a reminder, you stated why you thought he had one.

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Jan 11, 2019 17:16:31   #
Bad Bob
 
buffalo wrote:
Bitch clinton and her DNC apparatchiks cheated Bernie out od any chance or being the dim-o-crap nominee.
Trumpy won the popular vote in MOST of the states not just the left coast so he beat the bitch.

I am no great fan of trumpy but I ain't whining about it either. It is time to get over it. He is going to be your POTUS for probably the next 6 years whether you like it or not.



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