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Jan 18, 2019 09:12:31   #
Canuckus Deploracus (a regular here)
 
buffalo wrote:
Thanks! Hope your holidays were wonderful.


Most enjoyable...

Good to be home though

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Jan 18, 2019 09:14:24   #
buffalo
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Most enjoyable...

Good to be home though


Always good to be home!

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Jan 18, 2019 10:20:08   #
Coos Bay Tom (a regular here)
 
This Wall buisness is hitting home here in Coos Bay. We are on the coast and we do have Coast Guardsmen here. We just started crab season and last week three fishermen drowned. The Coast Guard is vital to our community and they are not being paid. Our community has started up food drives to help these brave souls. They need to eat they need paper towels and their babies need diapers. What about gas to get to work. This has got to end soon before we have no one to patrol our seas and rescue fishermen from sinking boats.

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Jan 18, 2019 10:24:00   #
Bad Bob
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
This Wall buisness is hitting home here in Coos Bay. We are on the coast and we do have Coast Guardsmen here. We just started crab season and last week three fishermen drowned. The Coast Guard is vital to our community and they are not being paid. Our community has started up food drives to help these brave souls. They need to eat they need paper towels and their babies need diapers. What about gas to get to work. This has got to end soon before we have no one to patrol our seas and rescue fishermen from sinking boats.
This Wall buisness is hitting home here in Coos Ba... (show quote)



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Jan 18, 2019 14:57:23   #
lindajoy (a regular here)
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Premise A: The immigrants from Europe were fleeing persecution/ seeking economic opportunity/ were brought by their parents.... The American Indian's efforts to prevent being 'invaded' were immoral and unjust...

Premise B: The original settlers were invaders and cruelly conquered the native people... In which case Americans should absolutely resist invasion from outside forces...

I don't believe in collective guilt... The natives were essential to the development and creation of all of the New World countries...

Atrocities, both real and perceived, were a part of history and not particular to any one group... As Buffalo so directly pointed out...

I am not sure where your statement originated from...
Premise A: The immigrants from Europe were fleeing... (show quote)


The growing pains of a new country being born or reborn if you will... Evoluntionary changes that have and will continue long before we ever got here and certainly well after us...

Progress isn’t necesarily progress especially when considering progressives in their idea of progress..

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Jan 18, 2019 15:09:10   #
Bad Bob
 
lindajoy wrote:
The growing pains of a new country being born or reborn if you will... Evoluntionary changes that have and will continue long before we ever got here and certainly well after us...

Progress isn’t necesarily progress especially when considering progressives in their idea of progress..


"Progress isn’t necesarily progress especially when considering progressives in their idea of progress.."


Please elaborate.

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Jan 18, 2019 16:11:40   #
bdamage (a regular here)
 
Bad Bob wrote:


Are you one of those people who don't want to wall Bob?



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Jan 18, 2019 16:15:05   #
Bad Bob
 
bdamage wrote:
Are you one of those people who don't want to wall Bob?



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Jan 18, 2019 17:25:31   #
lindajoy (a regular here)
 
Bad Bob wrote:
"Progress isn’t necesarily progress especially when considering progressives in their idea of progress.."


Please elaborate.


Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ~~

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Jan 18, 2019 17:46:39   #
bdamage (a regular here)
 
lindajoy wrote:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ~~

Great example LJ!

But let's not forget Beto...





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Jan 18, 2019 17:49:50   #
Bad Bob
 
lindajoy wrote:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ~~


Yes~~~~~~~Steve King~~~~~~~~

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Jan 18, 2019 19:31:22   #
Canuckus Deploracus (a regular here)
 
lindajoy wrote:
The growing pains of a new country being born or reborn if you will... Evoluntionary changes that have and will continue long before we ever got here and certainly well after us...

Progress isn’t necesarily progress especially when considering progressives in their idea of progress..


Progress for its own sake seems more harmful than beneficial...
Never in history (human history, at least) have so many radical changes been introduced so rapidly....
It seems that each year our world (global society) has a new technology/ ideology thrust upon it...
As a child I was told that even minor changes to an ecosystem can have far ranging consequences...

Or perhaps I am just an iconoclast...

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Jan 19, 2019 08:22:37   #
lindajoy (a regular here)
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Yes~~~~~~~Steve King~~~~~~~~


I hear ya, Bob... Guess they strike each other out ...

Nine term Congressman who doesn’t appear poised to step down from office...

The voters will speak tho~~

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Jan 19, 2019 09:07:20   #
Bad Bob
 
lindajoy wrote:
I hear ya, Bob... Guess they strike each other out ...

Nine term Congressman who doesn’t appear poised to step down from office...

The voters will speak tho~~


Back to your silly statement, say what?

"Progress isn’t necesarily progress especially when considering progressives in their idea of progress.."

????????????????????????????????????

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Jan 19, 2019 09:22:34   #
Canuckus Deploracus (a regular here)
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Back to your silly statement, say what?

"Progress isn’t necesarily progress especially when considering progressives in their idea of progress.."

????????????????????????????????????


Come now friend Bob who is bad...

'Advancements' in certain areas (technology/social ideologies/ educational methodologies) doesn't always have the desired outcome...
Hence 'Progress isn't necessarily progress'...

Many of the policies advocated by certain elements of our respected societies are (personal opinion) more the result of change for changes sake; a reflexive rebuttal of (perceived) collective guilt and/or injustices by a population that is genuinely disillusioned with the ideals of our respective societies...
Hence 'considering progressives in their idea of progress'...

Or at least I hope that my interpretation of LindaJoy's post is of that vein...

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