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Jan 9, 2019 14:20:05   #
Auntie Lulu
 
EmilyD wrote:
I really hope that Americans can now finally see what's going on. President Trump said he willing to use all the things that Pelosi and Schumer want (drones, more border patrol agents, computer monitoring etc.) as well as a high, see-through, steel fence/wall. That is all he wants. Schumer/Pelosi are not willing to compromise. That is the crux of this whole thing. They could do both what Schumer/Pelosi want AND what Trump wants, but NOOOOOOO, they want it only their way. Schumer wants to separate the wall issue from the government shutdown...and made it look like little children and others are suffering....when Americans are being killed and sold mega drugs!

This absolutely shows all of us Americans that the Democrats will not give Trump his main campaign promise to us (who really want it because we elected him because of it) because they just don't like that he won. Trump will NOT cave on this. And Schumer is wrong, wrong, wrong....this shutdown is all on him, Pelosi and the Democrats....NOT Trump. Bottom line:Trump is willing to compromise, they are not.
I really hope that Americans can now finally see w... (show quote)


EmilyD … You are absolutely correct. This shutdown and not wanting to actually lead our country in ways that would ensure the safety of its citizens is absolutely on the heads of Nancy (I have senile dementia) Polosi, and Chuck (I won't budge an inch, after all I'm just here to garner monies and benefits for the Israelis) Schumer and their ilk. I truly believe that our President wants to forward ways to ensure the safety of the "American" people.

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Jan 9, 2019 14:37:30   #
Tug484
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
I ruffled some feathers today regarding the wall and koolaid drinkers, there is a reason for my enthusiasm for a wall. My only child was almost killed by an illegal alien! The alien was drunk and ran a red light with his 6 kids and girlfriend in his truck! Ran into my son, totaled both vehicles and my son, unconscious was taken to the hospital! The bastard ran away! Come to find out the filth had three previous duis a spousal abuse charge and a resisting arrest charge! He was only 23! Of course he didn’t show up at any deportation ceremonies! Still haven’t caught him! Thank the Lord my son wasn’t killed! My car had only pl and pd cause it was older! He had a auspended license and no insurance! These people are never held accountable for anything!! Build the frickin wall, yesterday!!! No more welfare!!
I ruffled some feathers today regarding the wall a... (show quote)


Same thing happened to my son.
Hang in there. They finally caught the culprit.

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Jan 9, 2019 15:31:45   #
teabag09 (a regular here)
 
What good does it do to deport them with no way to keep them from returning? At least if we had the barrier/fence/wall to funnel them to check points there'd be more control.

Personally I think we should be a little harsher in the treatment of the law breakers to maybe dissuade some from trying to break into OUR country. If a person knows they'd be thrown into solitary for a year then sent back, they'd think twice. Maybe! Mike
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Perhaps a barrier of some sort would have prevented this individual from entering the country in the first place...

Agreed... This individual should have been deported... With or without a first offense..

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Jan 9, 2019 15:53:01   #
teabag09 (a regular here)
 
My wife worked for Social Services in Norfolk, Va. for 32 years. We're a long way from the southern border and yet she needed an interpreter to help with filling out the welfare forms. When Obama was elected President, the lines literately went around the building and it was the size of a super Walmart.
jSmitty45 wrote:
So glad your son was ok. I totally agree with you. I had one hit me in Houston, and left the scene too. I wasn't hurt, but had to pay the deductible to get my car fixed. Couldn't get his tag so he was never caught either. There are too many of these illegals on the streets, and to think we pay for all of them. When you go into the hospital in Texas, the emergency room is full of them, and no one speaks English. Cut off the welfare, food stamps, use e-verify. If we stop the freebies, maybe some will go home. I am so fed up with the stupid liberals that are in DC, as well as the rino's. Time for us to wake up and take back our country!
So glad your son was ok. I totally agree with you.... (show quote)

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Jan 9, 2019 15:56:36   #
teabag09 (a regular here)
 
All em needs to do is look up the wall in El Paso! Mike
maximus wrote:
Then why do our border agents say a wall is extremely effective? Anywhere that has a wall has slowed illegal immigration that jumped 68% to Nov 2018 from Nov 2017. (The percentage might not be accurate but it's conservative anyway. more like 72 or 78 percent.)
Granted we need more manpower for visa abusers, but that's part of what Trump is asking for.
I have to ask, how does an illegal fly into our country unaccosted? Is it because TSA is hogtied? That they can only strip search little girls and old women who have a colostomy bag, because they can't hurt the feelings of the illegal entrants? That's just Shumer and Pelosi baloney.
Compromise with Trump and build the wall.
Then why do our border agents say a wall is extrem... (show quote)

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Jan 9, 2019 16:07:11   #
oldroy
 
EmilyD wrote:
I really hope that Americans can now finally see what's going on. President Trump said he willing to use all the things that Pelosi and Schumer want (drones, more border patrol agents, computer monitoring etc.) as well as a high, see-through, steel fence/wall. That is all he wants. Schumer/Pelosi are not willing to compromise. That is the crux of this whole thing. They could do both what Schumer/Pelosi want AND what Trump wants, but NOOOOOOO, they want it only their way. Schumer wants to separate the wall issue from the government shutdown...and made it look like little children and others are suffering....when Americans are being killed and sold mega drugs!

This absolutely shows all of us Americans that the Democrats will not give Trump his main campaign promise to us (who really want it because we elected him because of it) because they just don't like that he won. Trump will NOT cave on this. And Schumer is wrong, wrong, wrong....this shutdown is all on him, Pelosi and the Democrats....NOT Trump. Bottom line:Trump is willing to compromise, they are not.
I really hope that Americans can now finally see w... (show quote)


I, for one, didn't vote for Trump because of his promises about a border wall. In fact, I voted for him because I just couldn't bring myself to vote for his horrible opponent. I decided 15 years ago that I could never vote for that bitch for any public office. Her behavior from then to 2016 was nothing that could change my mind about her. I hope I wasn't the only one who voted like that.

You are so right about the only thing here that Schumer and Peeloosli care about. They have been obstructionists since Trump took office and aren't likely to wise up very soon .

When did we want "rebuttals" for presidential speeches? I don't remember either party doing this in my whole lifetime, but then I am only 86 years old. It is TV that is causing most of our troubles, that and the obstructionist Dems running around.

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Jan 9, 2019 16:10:00   #
Mikeyavelli (a regular here)
 
oldroy wrote:
I, for one, didn't vote for Trump because of his promises about a border wall. In fact, I voted for him because I just couldn't bring myself to vote for his horrible opponent. I decided 15 years ago that I could never vote for that bitch for any public office. Her behavior from then to 2016 was nothing that could change my mind about her. I hope I wasn't the only one who voted like
You are so right about the only thing here that Schumer and Peeloosli care about. They have been obstructionists since Trump took office and aren't likely to wise up very soon .

When did we want "rebuttals" for presidential speeches? I don't remember either party doing this in my whole lifetime, but then I am only 86 years old. It is TV that is causing most of our troubles, that and the obstructionist Dems running around.
I, for one, didn't vote for Trump because of his p... (show quote)


The kommiecrats still think that it's hillary's government and Trump is the intruder.

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Jan 9, 2019 17:16:17   #
peg w (a regular here)
 
Trump's tirade was pretty sad. I thought Pelosi and Schumer we're much more logical. Trump's claim that these illegals were murders was very much over the top. I bet the murder rate on illegals is much lower than on US citizens.

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Jan 9, 2019 17:20:08   #
Mllstd40
 
Very good Reply.

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Jan 9, 2019 17:22:08   #
Tug484
 
peg w wrote:
Trump's tirade was pretty sad. I thought Pelosi and Schumer we're much more logical. Trump's claim that these illegals were murders was very much over the top. I bet the murder rate on illegals is much lower than on US citizens.


The DEMS didn't offer any solution.
They said they'd negotiate when shut down ends.
Today it was the same no.
I saw two people that looked like a car was going to rear end them and they were so puckered up, the upholstery material was sucked up.

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Jan 9, 2019 17:28:08   #
Mikeyavelli (a regular here)
 
peg w wrote:
Trump's tirade was pretty sad. I thought Pelosi and Schumer we're much more logical. Trump's claim that these illegals were murders was very much over the top. I bet the murder rate on illegals is much lower than on US citizens.


Illegals don't belong here, murderers or not. That's the point. They're illegal.

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Jan 9, 2019 17:38:24   #
Gatsby (a regular here)
 
peg w wrote:
Trump's tirade was pretty sad. I thought Pelosi and Schumer we're much more logical. Trump's claim that these illegals were murders was very much over the top. I bet the murder rate on illegals is much lower than on US citizens.


The GAO’s numbers: Illegals 3% of the population, about 10 million to date.
Crimes PER DAY committed by illegal aliens in just a few crime categories,
based on those GAO numbers and the 90% figure for SCAAP persons over four years.

•Kidnappings: 9
•Murders: 15
•Sex offenses: 43
•Burglaries: 71
•Assaults: 131

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/07/illegal_aliens_murder_at_a_much_higher_rate_than_us_citizens_do.html#ixzz5RJ1S5VkX
https://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-18-440

And that was Obama's GAO. Do the math, Obama was in office for 2922 days x 15 murders PER DAY!

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Jan 9, 2019 18:00:00   #
Peewee (a regular here)
 
Good try Gatsby, they pretend they don't know the difference between right and wrong, legal and illegal, and facts and feelings. They live in Dreamland.

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Jan 9, 2019 18:00:56   #
emarine (a regular here)
 
maximus wrote:
I hate to say this but you dishonor you e-name. Who gives a crap if Mexico pays for the wall? We NEED the wall. The southern border is unbelievable!
I'm just guessing here...if you were in Viet Nam, did you just say we don't need a perimeter? It's OK if the enemy just comes on into our camp? Our border IS a perimeter and it's NOT OK for the criminals, rapists, drug mules, gang members, alcoholics, and murderers to just "come on in". To argue who pays for the wall while American's die left and right is ridiculous.
Do you on the left just ignore that Obama, Shumer, and Pelosi all spoke up for a wall and much more money than Trump is asking for? They all said how a wall is needed and how successful a wall would be until Trump got elected. Shumer said we don't govern by temper tantrums, but that is EXACTLY what the top dems are doing.
The dems are doing everything in their power to hold up our nation from a great economy, great employment among all segments of populace, respect for America form other countries, and all the other positive things because they are pissed off that Hillary lost.
Like I said, it's unbelievable!!!
I hate to say this but you dishonor you e-name. Wh... (show quote)




Lots of talk there Minimus… I dishonor no one… review people of honor like Jim Mattis then review Trump to learn what honor is all about... I don't agree with Trump or the Democrats... way too much BS going on …. just throwing money around isn't smart with our current deficit ...

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Jan 9, 2019 18:32:49   #
theotts
 
Hadenough wrote:
EmilyD,

Scheemer and Peeloosly went into severe dem 5D Mode Disrupt, Deny, Deceive, Deflect and Delusional. They have forgotten it was U.S. Citizens that put them in office, not a bunch of illegals that they would rather represent. It should be a law that our elected officials read the oath they took before going into office and it should be read daily!
Their hate for President Trump is preventing them from doing their job! We should have a vote of no confidence nd remove them from office.

MAGA
EmilyD, br br Scheemer and Peeloosly went into se... (show quote)


Anyone who thinks a wall is going to solve any problems at the Mexican border is just plain dumb.
We have spent 10s of billions on the war on drugs. Is there any sign of progress? But it's even more absurd in view of the Fact that most overdose deaths are from drugs manufactured here, in the US. Add those from heroin, which comes primarily from Asia, and you are exhaustively refuted on the drug angle. The claim that terrorists are infiltrating from Mexico is risible. Find one terrorist who is thought to have entered from Mexico. You'll Sturm und drang und kampf, but you will not find EVEN One.
You also ignore the fact that crime rates are lower in Latino communities than in Caucasian, employment rates are just higher and taxes get paid. A number of US businesses, including farming, would be in difficulty without immigrant workers.
Any Trump supporter who feigns outrage at lies is beyond hypocritical. The wall controversy is cobbled up from lies, bigotry and all the other equippage of a demagogue. For instance, consider another FACT; more illegals were deported during Obama's presidency than in any other presidency, including Trump's. He just didn't make it a lurid spectacle.
You are exactly who P. T. Barnum was thinking of when he said; "There's a sucker born every minute."

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