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Jan 8, 2019 22:51:30   #
debeda (a regular here)
 
emarine wrote:
How about tougher punishment for repeat offenders... I personally would hang the bastard after the 2nd offense... this would slow the bad one's down some & its cost effective...


GREAT idea. But we are far too "kind" - read afraid of being called racist- for that. IMO

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Jan 8, 2019 22:52:37   #
debeda (a regular here)
 
EmilyD wrote:
Trump can't impose a fee for all Mexicans coming into America (like Canada does when people drive into their country) because it would have to go through Congress, and we all know what would happen with that! So far and for some reason I don't understand, we do not charge a fee for people driving into America on either border. I know Canada charges $3.75 per car for Americans to cross into Canada. Trucks are a lot more. Going back to the US is $0. Even if we made people driving across both borders pay a dollar, we would make 5 billion in about a month.
All Trump has to do is charge a fee from people (mostly Mexicans) entering the US at the southern border...wall funding: Done.
Trump can't impose a fee for all Mexicans coming i... (show quote)



BRILLIANT

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Jan 8, 2019 22:52:54   #
Hadenough (a regular here)
 
emarine wrote:
… why you just have to know where the holes are...


emarine,

Yes we do, they're in the democrats heads! Unfortunately the existing fence and dems have more holes than Swiss cheese!

MAGA

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Jan 8, 2019 22:55:10   #
Mikeyavelli (a regular here)
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I would second that...
Except for dual citizenship... One should never pady to enter one's own country...


But they should pay to enter their second country. If you ain't born here, you pay.

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Jan 8, 2019 22:59:41   #
emarine (a regular here)
 
Hadenough wrote:
emarine,

Yes we do, they're in the democrats heads! Unfortunately the existing fence and dems have more holes than Swiss cheese!

MAGA




I agree that sometimes our left leaning buddy's are a bit too soft... my thoughts on deporting repeat offenders involves low flying C-130's & a boot in the ass...

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Jan 8, 2019 23:01:16   #
Hadenough (a regular here)
 
emarine wrote:
I agree that sometimes our left leaning buddy's are a bit too soft... my thoughts on deporting repeat offenders involves low flying C-130's & a boot in the ass...


That sounds like a plan!

MAGA

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Jan 8, 2019 23:16:03   #
Blade_Runner (a regular here)
 
EmilyD wrote:
I really hope that Americans can now finally see what's going on. President Trump said he willing to use all the things that Pelosi and Schumer want (drones, more border patrol agents, computer monitoring etc.) as well as a high, see-through, steel fence/wall. That is all he wants. Schumer/Pelosi are not willing to compromise. That is the crux of this whole thing. They could do both what Schumer/Pelosi want AND what Trump wants, but NOOOOOOO, they want it only their way. Schumer wants to separate the wall issue from the government shutdown...and made it look like little children and others are suffering....when Americans are being killed and sold mega drugs!

This absolutely shows all of us Americans that the Democrats will not give Trump his main campaign promise to us (who really want it because we elected him because of it) because they just don't like that he won. Trump will NOT cave on this. And Schumer is wrong, wrong, wrong....this shutdown is all on him, Pelosi and the Democrats....NOT Trump. Bottom line:Trump is willing to compromise, they are not.
I really hope that Americans can now finally see w... (show quote)
I can't recall a time ever that democrats got their panties in such a twist over spending money. The annual federal budget is nearly $4 trillion, the $5 billion president Trump is asking for is one tenth of one percent of that. The CR spending bill passed by the house totaled $1.3 trillion and included the $5 billion for border security, if the senate democrats had gotten on board, the government would not be shut down, Trump would have the money for the border, and none of this political gamesmanship, bickering and bullshit would ever have happened.

Alas, we know the real reason why the progressive dems politicize everything, they don't give a tinker's damn about the safety and well-being of American citizens, they just want absolute power and control. To get it they must destroy president Trump, the constitution, the rule of law, and everything else that made our nation great. I have never seen any evidence whatsoever that any progressive has ever given serious thought to the consequences of what they are trying to do, they just do not comprehend the character of American patriots. There will be a reckoning if they push us too far. They are getting damned close.

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Jan 8, 2019 23:17:56   #
kankune (a regular here)
 
emarine wrote:
Trump said that Mexico would pay for his wall... not us... Trump basically sold us a free lunch but now he demands payment... everyone knows there's no such thing as a free lunch in politics except Trump... even Mexico told Trump to kiss their ass... I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand...


What's so hard to understand that the US not having to keep paying freebies to all these illegals in the US will in itself pay for the wall ten times over with what we save. Look at the bigger picture and try and understand!

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Jan 8, 2019 23:21:36   #
Canuckus Deploracus (a regular here)
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
But they should pay to enter their second country. If you ain't born here, you pay.


Disagree...
Legal immigrants should be made welcome and hold all the rights of native born citizens...
Barring welfare and other entitlements...
And chain migration could come with a cost per head of family member...

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Jan 8, 2019 23:25:18   #
Hadenough (a regular here)
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I can't recall a time ever that democrats got their panties in such a twist over spending money. The annual federal budget is nearly $4 trillion, the $5 billion president Trump is asking for is one tenth of one percent of that. The CR spending bill passed by the house totaled $1.3 trillion and included the $5 billion for border security, if the senate democrats had gotten on board, the government would not be shut down, Trump would have the money for the border, and none of this political gamesmanship, bickering and bullshit would ever have happened.

Alas, we know the real reason why the progressive dems politicize everything, they don't give a tinker's damn about the safety and well-being of American citizens, they just want absolute power and control. To get it they must destroy president Trump, the constitution, the rule of law, and everything else that made our nation great. I have never seen any evidence whatsoever that any progressive has ever given serious thought to the consequences of what they are trying to do, they just do not comprehend the character of American patriots. There will be a reckoning if they push us too far. They are getting damned close.
I can't recall a time ever that democrats got thei... (show quote)



Blade Runner,

Perfectly stated! Has anyone noticed the usual dems/libs/progs are quiet about this topic? Just proves you can't defend stupidity! Enough is enough! We are America!


MAGA

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Jan 8, 2019 23:31:51   #
emarine (a regular here)
 
kankune wrote:
What's so hard to understand that the US not having to keep paying freebies to all these illegals in the US will in itself pay for the wall ten times over with what we save. Look at the bigger picture and try and understand!




A 5 billion dollar wall or fence won't stop illegals from entry if they really want in...

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Jan 8, 2019 23:38:08   #
Canuckus Deploracus (a regular here)
 
emarine wrote:
A 5 billion dollar wall or fence won't stop illegals from entry if they really want in...


Are you contending that it won't stop any?
or the majority?
Half?

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Jan 8, 2019 23:40:20   #
kankune (a regular here)
 
emarine wrote:
A 5 billion dollar wall or fence won't stop illegals from entry if they really want in...


You can not tell any of us that. Are u border patrol????...do u live on the border???? The only thing you're doing is repeating dem talking points....

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Jan 8, 2019 23:43:46   #
Hadenough (a regular here)
 
emarine wrote:
A 5 billion dollar wall or fence won't stop illegals from entry if they really want in...


But it will keep large groups from storming our border and make it more difficult. Have you seen the size of some of those bovine climbing what is now a wall/barrier/fence. At the rate these invaders are coming in México, Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala won't be able to put a summer Olympic team together. Anyone that can run, jump or swim will be here!

MAGA

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Jan 8, 2019 23:44:12   #
proud republican (a regular here)
 
emarine wrote:
A 5 billion dollar wall or fence won't stop illegals from entry if they really want in...


Then why Schumer,Clinton,Pelosi and obama were all for it before???..2006 and 2013......Because they are HYPOCRITES!!!!

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