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Jan 9, 2019 12:43:11   #
PJT
 
Morgan: abolish the e*******l college and you have only majority of v**ers...actually plurality.
Would we have a run-off e******n sting hundreds of millions of dollars and a 2nd campaign costing billions.
In this age of a media nite pocket of one party it ends democracy. It ends a republic.
Stolen v**es and aliens...legal or illegal..will control.
And remember big cities like NYC and Chicago are infamous for v**e buying and v**e stealing.

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Jan 9, 2019 13:07:02   #
Morgan
 
buffalo wrote:
Article in Moonbattery site:

Why Democrats Want to Abolish E*******l College

If today’s radicalized Democrats seize sufficient power, it won’t be a matter of enduring a few years of poor government while we wait for the pendulum to swing back. They plan to inflict irreversible damage. One example is demographic t***sformation resulting from the open border. Another is their assault on the E*******l College:

Desperate to bring the Tyranny of the Majority to our representative democracy, on the first day Democrats assumed control of the House of Representatives, Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) submitted a bill to k**l the e*******l college.

Tyranny of the majority was a major concern of the Founding Fathers, who set up a democratic republic, not a democracy. They did not want a system that would allow 51% to ens***e the other 49%, or cities to lord it over less densely populated areas.

Without the e*******l college, p**********l candidates would naturally concentrate on where people are concentrated: urban areas. The rest of the country would be left unrepresented.

Amending the Constitution won’t work. There is too much resistance to such a ham-fisted power play by densely populated, l*****t-dominated states like California and New York. So they have devised an end run around the Constitution called National Popular V**e, which is intended to impose direct popular v**e by interstate compact.

Already alarmed back in 2015, E*******l College expert Tara Ross explained why this venerable institution is so crucial:

http://youtu.be/LXnjGD7j2B0

The purpose of progressivism is to centralize power in the fist of an ideologically homogenous elite. The Constitution is their primary obstacle. Their war on it did not start with the E*******l College, nor will it end there.

Progressives struck a blow against the ingenious system set up by the Founders when they passed the 17th Amendment. Consequently, Senators are now elected by popular v**e instead of state legislatures. This undermines a primary purpose of the Senate, which is to represent states as government entities, thereby balancing the centralized power of the federal government. Today’s progressives want to inflict worse damage by doing away with the Senate altogether.
Article in Moonbattery site: br br Why Democrats ... (show quote)




Wait a minute did I just see a reference to a "representative democracy", Ok then, baby steps

This is such BS. Even if a senator is elected by its state citizens rather than a representative the senator still is going to Congress representing the voice of the people from his state.
I think it's great that. Tell me would you like it as much if your senator was selected by representatives of your opposing party? How well would you be represented then?

When all is said and done including the e*******l college, it is won by popular v**e, we are only in trouble now because states do not have the correct representation to the population of their state. One state should never have more e*******l v**es over another state with a greater population.

The modern e*******l college is, arguably, the worst of all worlds. It does not encourage republican virtues, as the founders planned. Nor does it confer the democratic legitimacy that modern Americans expect.

Christopher Baylor is a visiting assistant professor at Washington College and author of the forthcoming book, “First to the Party: The Group Origins of Party T***sformation.”

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Jan 9, 2019 13:16:45   #
Morgan
 
PJT wrote:
Morgan: abolish the e*******l college and you have only majority of v**ers...actually plurality.
Would we have a run-off e******n sting hundreds of millions of dollars and a 2nd campaign costing billions.
In this age of a media nite pocket of one party it ends democracy. It ends a republic.
Stolen v**es and aliens...legal or illegal..will control.
And remember big cities like NYC and Chicago are infamous for v**e buying and v**e stealing.


Well, I'm glad you're admitting that we are part of a democracy, that's something, a representative democracy/Republic, yes that we would lose and go to a direct democracy If they want to keep an e*******l college, then the v**es should be balanced from population to number of e*******l v**es. It is a numbers thing so it should be clear and just and stop all the bs. Also, we shouldn't pick a winner until all v**es are in, including absentee. Everyone should feel their v**e counts.

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Jan 9, 2019 13:22:35   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
Morgan's a waste of time. She thinks talking eloquently wins the point. She is constantly wrong then goes to the lefty playbook. She's the smartest in the room and insults everyone else.


Yeah right... don't get mad at me because I can present my case, and if I happen to give an insult it is always justified, all anyone has to do is be civil and no insults are returned. It's that simple, I'm very easy to get along with.

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Jan 9, 2019 13:24:35   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
No it makes it an amended document. Wasn't made to change on a whim. Look at the steps that must be done to amend the Constitution. The Founders took change seriously. Exactly why I believe in stronger States Rights.


You're really not getting this, all I can do is suggest you read what a living document is.

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Jan 9, 2019 13:36:26   #
Morgan
 
lindajoy wrote:
The Constitution and Bill of Rights stand as so written..
Amendments (very difficult to do for a reason)may be added but they do not change the foundation of the Constitution-or Bill of Rights..

Likewise we are A republic not a federal republic democrat anything..
The left believes if they claim it as such long enough that by attrition it will be adopted...It will not..

The "republic" is mentioned is in Article IV, Section 4. "The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government." It does not say democracy at all.

Lest we forget Benjamin Franklin reply when asked what sort if government we were ~~a republic, if you can keep it...
The Constitution and Bill of Rights stand as so wr... (show quote)


No matter how many ways you want to slice that bread it still end up the same, it's a Living Document, don't be so stubborn...You're wrong

A living document, also known as an evergreen document or dynamic document, is a document that is continually edited and updated.

Is the Constitution a living document?

The U.S. Constitution is called a living document because it was created with the purpose of being able to grow and change (just like a living thing) with the changing needs of the country. Through the addition of amendments, the constitution is able to adapt in ways that are needed for the nation to succeed.

Living Constitution is a term used to describe the Constitution's ability to change to meet the needs of each generation without major changes. This is a concept used in interpreting the Constitution of U.S. It is based on the notion that Constitution of the United States has relevant meaning beyond the original text and is an evolving and dynamic document that changes over time. Therefore the views of contemporaneous society should be taken into account when interpreting key constitutional phrases. The constitutional framers specifically wrote the Constitution in broad and flexible terms to create such a dynamic, "living" document.

Our Constitution is our set of rules and laws which governs us, our amendments are additions to our constitution. For example, when we added in the amendment to allow women and people of color to v**e, it is an amendment and thereby part of our Living Constitution. A beautiful thing really... as it is also called Evergreen~ always alive, nice huh

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Jan 9, 2019 14:05:58   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
No matter how many ways you want to slice that bread it still end up the same, it's a Living Document, don't be so stubborn...You're wrong

A living document, also known as an evergreen document or dynamic document, is a document that is continually edited and updated.

Is the Constitution a living document?

The U.S. Constitution is called a living document because it was created with the purpose of being able to grow and change (just like a living thing) with the changing needs of the country. Through the addition of amendments, the constitution is able to adapt in ways that are needed for the nation to succeed.

Living Constitution is a term used to describe the Constitution's ability to change to meet the needs of each generation without major changes. This is a concept used in interpreting the Constitution of U.S. It is based on the notion that Constitution of the United States has relevant meaning beyond the original text and is an evolving and dynamic document that changes over time. Therefore the views of contemporaneous society should be taken into account when interpreting key constitutional phrases. The constitutional framers specifically wrote the Constitution in broad and flexible terms to create such a dynamic, "living" document.

Our Constitution is our set of rules and laws which governs us, our amendments are additions to our constitution. For example, when we added in the amendment to allow women and people of color to v**e, it is an amendment and thereby part of our Living Constitution. A beautiful thing really... as it is also called Evergreen~ always alive, nice huh
No matter how many ways you want to slice that bre... (show quote)


Yep, sometimes mistakes can be made like the 19th Amendment.

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Jan 9, 2019 14:52:52   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Perhaps you wish to consider the people you speak with and which one to say what to.... PJT is the wrong person..🙄

Morgan wrote:
Really, you like that, I used it in contrary to your comment to me calling me a useful i***t. I'm tired of asking people to be civil, so I'll swim is your swamp for a while, considering whenever I ask for it I'm simply called more names, so you want it, you got it, we can all play that low mentality game, it's not hard. You want opposing teams, OK, you want d******eness, I'm all in. I don't give a @#$%^

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Jan 9, 2019 15:06:04   #
woodguru
 
JFlorio wrote:
You are gonna put some of the libs on here in a tizzy until the figure out its satire.


Donald Trump is satire, real life satire

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Jan 9, 2019 16:09:17   #
tulln1951
 
PROGRESSIVE IS ANOTHER WORD FOR C*******T. CHECK BACK TO THE POLITICAL 40'S E******N WHEN THE DEFEATED C*******T CONTENDER, WHO HARDLEY HAD ANY V**ES, MADE THE STATEMENT "WE WILL RULE THE DEMOGRATIC PARTY IN THE FUTURE. GILLY.

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Jan 9, 2019 16:15:24   #
PJT
 
1940s? By 1936 C****es v**ed for FDR. They seriously infiltrated his regime.
But PROGRESSIVE DOES NOT MEAN C****E.
NOR DOES COMMUIST MEAN PROGRESSIVE.

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Jan 9, 2019 16:38:56   #
teabag09
 
Amen Buf. I have been advocating for just that sort of thing for a very long time. Box fed .50's every half mile or so or BMG .50's should do the job nicely. The crazy thing is that if just a few were tagged with a .50 cal. the rest would have more than second thoughts of trying to get into our country. The other thing is much, much harsher punishment for those caught here illegally. Mike
buffalo wrote:
And trumpy. Now I am no fan of trumpy's because I do not like his tax cuts for the wealthy and mega-corporations with the LIE that it is going to help the middle class and working poor. Much of the improvement in the economy,. especially lower unemployment, actually began under his Oliness' reign.

I do not agree that a border wall, or wh**ever you want to call it, is the best solution to stop the invasion of the US by i******s, terrorists, drug and sex smugglers, criminals and gang members. A wall would also cut off access to parts of farmers' and ranchers' land and the river in many places.

IMO, stationing as many troops as necessary along the border and giving them the authority to use wh**ever means (force) necessary to stop the invasion would be a better solution. Think of the economic boom to all the US towns and cities along the border with the military and their families...housing, autos, clothes, local taxes, etc.

Also, stop the BILLIONS ( http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/02/10/514172676/mexicans-in-the-u-s-are-sending-home-more-money-than-ever ) being sent back to Mexico. As for paying for the troops...they were going to get paid regardless.

But the h**e dim-o-craps and their moonbatty apparatchiks have for trumpy and the continual witch hunt to find something on him is ridiculous especially when the biggest criminals reside in their ranks, yet they overlook them.
And trumpy. Now I am no fan of trumpy's because I ... (show quote)

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Jan 9, 2019 16:43:32   #
teabag09
 
Why don't you look and get back to us? Mike
Morgan wrote:
Whether you agreed or not, was not the point. Yes, I'm not denying that and I'm sure if I look I can find the same on the left, my point was to better secure a balance... as in Congress, there could be a set party of seats in order to ensure a more foolproof balanced v**e.

I don't believe any party majority should rule in the Supreme Court

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Jan 9, 2019 16:59:30   #
teabag09
 
LJ, I could be wrong but I believe Posse Comitatus is intended as use of Military against OUR citizens not foreigners
lindajoy wrote:
Exactly why I enjoy reading your well thought out posts... An uncanny ability to speak your position without derogatory name calling etc ...

I like your idea of arming our borders with military and the boom effect for the towns an added plus... Of course many here will tell you Trump can’t use our military to build strength against the i******s~~ I’m not even speaking of the wall yet~~

From funding impact of Military budgets to have to convince Pentagon lawyers that the situation there constitutes a threat to national security, a true national emergency, and not a law enforcement etc...

We must remember the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the use of federal troops for law enforcement under most circumstances... Where threat of attack is suspected military can ve used temporarily.. Left to a judgement call of Eminent attack, by the time they ruled on it that attack may well be under way...

Soooo, close the borders down entirely, let no one in for as long as it takes to get our nation secure!!! Can we do that much???
Exactly why I enjoy reading your well thought out ... (show quote)

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Jan 9, 2019 17:01:41   #
teabag09
 
PJT, I think you're now living in Morgan' head RENT FREE! Mike
Morgan wrote:
Really, you like that, I used it in contrary to your comment to me calling me a useful i***t. I'm tired of asking people to be civil, so I'll swim is your swamp for a while, considering whenever I ask for it I'm simply called more names, so you want it, you got it, we can all play that low mentality game, it's not hard. You want opposing teams, OK, you want d******eness, I'm all in. I don't give a @#$%^

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