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Jan 9, 2019 07:26:20   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
The e*******l College was established so all of America had a say in an e******n. A pure Democracy is "mob" rule. Period. Minorities have very little say in a true Democracy. so those white Men, who by the way were brilliant, designed a system where the minority v**er all over the country has a say.
https://www.historycentral.com/e******ns/E*******lcollgewhy.html


Did you read my reply? On a little history? There are always going to be a side that doesn't win, but it shouldn't be the minority. this whole mob rule argument is outdated along with the e*******l v**e.

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Jan 9, 2019 07:32:18   #
PJT
 
Morgan: who determines if an act is treasonous? Proofs? Procedures?
Who? YOU????
Get real. Your ideas would destroy this nation.

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Jan 9, 2019 07:34:32   #
Morgan
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
From the way they support liberal activist judges and want a "living constitution", which just means interpreting it to fit the liberal agenda rather than what it says.


That's not what a "living" constitution means at all as it has nothing to do with party's at all, get over the anti-party rhetoric. educate yourself on what it means. We are not the same of what we once were, time and moving forward changes our outlooks and society. Unfortunately, some things haven't changed as in peoples negative attitudes and h**eful dialogue, fortunately, compassion has been growing.

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Jan 9, 2019 07:41:19   #
Morgan
 
PJT wrote:
Morgan: who determines if an act is treasonous? Proofs? Procedures?
Who? YOU????
Get real. Your ideas would destroy this nation.


YOU get real, what an i***t comment, of course not me, or you, that's what the investigations are for with the right people doing them, as long as they aren't blocked, as Trump keeps trying to do.

The "Process" is being done as we speak, and the proof will be revealed. My ideas, ha, the party's have created un non-working government, look at us now with a government shut down. We should not be teams with the mentality that comes with it, we should be collective individuals.

What do we really need a president for? Maybe working within just our Congress is best and making that more workable and efficient.

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Jan 9, 2019 07:47:30   #
PJT
 
Morgan: your second comment clarifies. You didn't say that in your first statement.
Be careful using the word "collective".

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Jan 9, 2019 07:51:03   #
PJT
 
Morgan: sounds like you'd abolish the office of President for rule by Congress. Horrors!
No checks and balances. Sounds like soviet Russia or N**i Germany, which had a leader but no effective legislature and no checks and balances.
Is there anything in the Constitution and Bill of Rights you do like?

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Jan 9, 2019 08:47:06   #
Morgan
 
Seth wrote:
Pretty much everything you've posted is pure Democrat denial of facts.

I'm not going to go through most of that because it's all been posted here, links and logic and commentary, but like the rest of the wannabe Bolsheviks herein, you simply ignore it all, even when evidence is right there in front of you.

As far as corrupt practices and other crimes committed between January 2009 and January 2017, they were all "covered" under the protection of the Obama Umbrella of Corruption©. I have a very strong feeling that over the next few months, a number of now unprotected chickens are going to come home to roost. Stay tuned.

Now, here's where a previous post of mine comes in. I said that the Democratic Party has a nasty habit of setting precedents based on political convenience of the moment, paying no heed to the fact that it might come back later, full circle as someone else said, to bite them in the ass.

The purpose of the E*******l College was made plain to you, and in its way conscribes to the spirit of America.

America IS NOT a democracy, it is a republic. The founders never meant for this country to be ruled by mobs, just as it was not to be ruled by royalty.

The E*******l College gives Americans in every state an equal opportunity to v**e for a president, and in today's environment, it means that elitist liberals in overpopulated states like New York, Massachusetts, Illinois and California don't get to elect all our presidents, despite what v**ers throughout the rest of the country want.

You know damn well that if Hillary had won the e*******l v**e and Trump had lost with the popular v**e, the Democrats wouldn't be complaining at all about the E*******l College.

That's what all this is about, every single time the Democrats in Congress obstruct a Trump nomination or policy; it's about a bunch of grown babies who didn't get what they wanted having a years long tantrum. It's about "since we didn't get the president we wanted, Trump can't be president either, so we're gonna make his term in office a living hell."

It doesn't matter to soulless career politicians, political whores like Pelosi and Schumer, that their job description is to serve the American people, not spend the American people's time and treasure pursuing a political vendetta, they are fully prepared to waste as much time and tax money as they have to in their war on the duly elected President of the United States.

The fact that you see nothing wrong with this tells me what kind of an "American" you are.

Or aren't...

Let me attempt to explain to you what a conservative actually is.

We are Americans who are proud of our heritage, our country, our monuments and our f**g. We are proud of our Constitution. We are proud of how far and how fast America has come from being a British colony to being the richest, most powerful country in history and literally a world leader. The country that is the largest immigration destination on earth because we are a land of liberty and opportunity.

We are men and women who understand that the reasons for all the above boil down to the country having been run exactly as it has for the last 142 years. There have been a few minor adjustments, but essentially the same.

Having said that, what we also understand is that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

So along comes the left wing, in the form of g*******ts who see an eventual one world government with them sitting in the high seats, overseeing a vast socialist kleptocracy, and they begin buying the most gullible party, the Democrats, via campaign contributions and "small favors" to key politicians.

They begin shaping policies affecting the media, the education system and the entertainment industry, and find it easy to recruit the spoiled elitists in the tech sector as well. Useful I***ts like yourself just fall in line, and before long the Democratic Party is packed with socialists, social justice warriors and is churning out, with the help of the mainstream media, identity politics, propaganda and biased or full-blown f**e news.

We conservatives sit here watching you and yours begin eroding our country, attacking our liberties, indoctrinating our youth, tearing down our monuments under pretexts hiding the actual motive of erasing our history, attacking our mainstream religious practices and doing everything possible to disrupt our society, strip it of its most basic morality, open our borders, demean our police, defund our security and self defense abilities, bring down our economy, divide us, create chaos and completely change America into something it was never intended to be.

That's what is really happening in America today, but you want to know something? It ain't gonna work, in the end you and your kind will learn exactly what happens when you back us Americans into a corner as your kind are doing now.

From your perspective, the end game won't be pretty.
Pretty much everything you've posted is pure Democ... (show quote)



Ah... I see you took the opportunity to spew your h**eful self-righteous ranting diatribe onto me and this tells me what kind of American you are.

No, they ARE the facts, just look into what's been in the courts against them and it is you who is in denial. I know all about conservatives, was one and was raised in a conservative household but that is not what exists today in any way shape or form, which is why so many have left it.

Your religious freedoms are as intact, as they have been from the very beginning, the problem is that religious activists as yourself have overextended their liberties for quite some time now, injecting them into governmental literary word and practices. That is now being remedied. That is something as you say purposely was never intended by our founders. They made intentional efforts to leave God and religion out and separate from the government for the most part with the exception of a couple of references towards the creator

As far as corruption, that is the new right starting with the corrupted e******n of Bush Jr. and continued with Trump. E******ns won by c***ting. Way to go

It is unuseful i***ts like yourself who follow the lies and tripe out of Trump's mouth, believing everything he claims is f**e news which of course is everything about him, because it's always about him isn't it?

Who is eroding our country and our rights, attacking our liberties? I can just as easily say is you and your destructive ilk.


My kind, really, I see you are just another American h**er, which is defined as the new right, good job. But I am sure you see it as your righteous duty. LOL


You're all about the blame thing you feel are out of your control so you're angry and thought it would be nice to use me as your personal punching bag with your rant, because you are certainly not talking to me as a person because you obviously don't know my views on most of the things you're barking about.

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Jan 9, 2019 08:51:15   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
buffalo wrote:
In a startling reversal of a core campaign promise, House Democrats have completely abandoned all plans to impeach President Trump. Going a step further, Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, has promised to sponsor legislation abolishing the impeachment process altogether. However, Democrats still plan to go ahead with their promise to eliminate the E*******l College.

A spokesman for the House speaker said earlier today, "Even though everybody wants to see the worst Republican president since Hitler kicked out of the White House, we realized that impeachment was just not the way to go. While we were researching the E*******l College as an ancient relic left over from the Constitution that needs to be abolished, one of our staff was startled to discover that the impeachment process was also in the same outdated Constitution. We had to be consistent: either everything in the Constitution is the legal equivalent of a vestigial organ left there by white s***e owners, or nothing is. If we're going to can the E*******l College, well, obviously impeachment has to go too."

Chuck Shumer, glaring over his reading glasses, commented on the unnecessary complexity of the impeachment process. "There's more than you'd think," he said. "Everybody thinks impeachment means you're outta there, but it only means you've just been accused, and only the House can do that. Okay, well and good. But get this - after the House impeaches somebody, the impeachment trial goes to the Senate, and it takes two thirds of the Senate to agree to kick out the president. Two thirds! No way can I get that many v**es. What good's a show trial if you can't get results?"

Congresswoman and Constitutional scholar Ocasio-Cortez also weighed in tweeting, "If all three chambers of government are involved, then the president could veto it, right? It's really messed up. Impeachment needs to be abolished and replaced with g***n e****y. After all, we only have ten years to save the planet."

Some Democrat v**ers vented feelings of betrayal. A g****r studies major at UCLA, Berkeley, posted on YouTube, "You mean Trump could still be our president!? *hyperventilating* I can't believe this is hap-happen-hap-happening to my nation! Somebody had BETTER FIX THIS NOW!" she opined before fainting. Protesters were asked to comment but only responded by scratching on the doors of the Capitol Building and shouting skyward, "NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!"

Trying to salvage support among some angry Democrat v**ers, Pelosi promised to "repeal and replace" impeachment with a more streamlined version. "So we're thinking of a system where we trot out a few victims with messy hair to make some allegations about misconduct and if one party thinks he's guilty, out he goes! It would save time, precious taxpayers' money, and above all, the polar bears. I'm trying to save the polar bears."
In a startling reversal of a core campaign promise... (show quote)


Pelosi comment at the end of this article is exactly why it will never happen nor will uprooting the e*******l college!!!

But go ahead and try ~~~ppfffttt

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Jan 9, 2019 08:55:40   #
PJT
 
Morgan: "unuseful i***ts? Can't you discuss without name calling?
The Founding Fathers (a phrase created by Pres. Harding) opposed a state church not religion. We separated from England and it's state religion, not religion in general or even Christianity.

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Jan 9, 2019 09:02:37   #
Seth
 
Morgan wrote:
That's not what a "living" constitution means at all as it has nothing to do with party's at all, get over the anti-party rhetoric. educate yourself on what it means. We are not the same of what we once were, time and moving forward changes our outlooks and society. Unfortunately, some things haven't changed as in peoples negative attitudes and h**eful dialogue, fortunately, compassion has been growing.


It's not a "living" Contitution. It's the Constitution, period, and unlike you l*****ts seem to think, it's not a "list of suggestions," either.

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Jan 9, 2019 09:06:38   #
Morgan
 
PJT wrote:
Morgan: sounds like you'd abolish the office of President for rule by Congress. Horrors!
No checks and balances. Sounds like soviet Russia or N**i Germany, which had a leader but no effective legislature and no checks and balances.
Is there anything in the Constitution and Bill of Rights you do like?


Our Congress and government, our legislation is our check and balances, N**i Germany was o*******wn by a crazed dictator, who took over, their Republic, how many times has that happened? It also just happened in Venezuela. Being a Republic does not protect us, our Constitution, our Congress and laws do. We are a Federal Constitutional Democratic Republic.

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Jan 9, 2019 09:17:21   #
Morgan
 
Seth wrote:
It's not a "living" Contitution. It's the Constitution, period, and unlike you l*****ts seem to think, it's not a "list of suggestions," either.


Look it up...and think

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Jan 9, 2019 09:20:53   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
buffalo wrote:
And trumpy. Now I am no fan of trumpy's because I do not like his tax cuts for the wealthy and mega-corporations with the LIE that it is going to help the middle class and working poor. Much of the improvement in the economy,. especially lower unemployment, actually began under his Oliness' reign.

I do not agree that a border wall, or wh**ever you want to call it, is the best solution to stop the invasion of the US by i******s, terrorists, drug and sex smugglers, criminals and gang members. A wall would also cut off access to parts of farmers' and ranchers' land and the river in many places.

IMO, stationing as many troops as necessary along the border and giving them the authority to use wh**ever means (force) necessary to stop the invasion would be a better solution. Think of the economic boom to all the US towns and cities along the border with the military and their families...housing, autos, clothes, local taxes, etc.

Also, stop the BILLIONS ( http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/02/10/514172676/mexicans-in-the-u-s-are-sending-home-more-money-than-ever ) being sent back to Mexico. As for paying for the troops...they were going to get paid regardless.

But the h**e dim-o-craps and their moonbatty apparatchiks have for trumpy and the continual witch hunt to find something on him is ridiculous especially when the biggest criminals reside in their ranks, yet they overlook them.
And trumpy. Now I am no fan of trumpy's because I ... (show quote)


Exactly why I enjoy reading your well thought out posts... An uncanny ability to speak your position without derogatory name calling etc ...

I like your idea of arming our borders with military and the boom effect for the towns an added plus... Of course many here will tell you Trump can’t use our military to build strength against the i******s~~ I’m not even speaking of the wall yet~~

From funding impact of Military budgets to have to convince Pentagon lawyers that the situation there constitutes a threat to national security, a true national emergency, and not a law enforcement etc...

We must remember the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the use of federal troops for law enforcement under most circumstances... Where threat of attack is suspected military can ve used temporarily.. Left to a judgement call of Eminent attack, by the time they ruled on it that attack may well be under way...

Soooo, close the borders down entirely, let no one in for as long as it takes to get our nation secure!!! Can we do that much???

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Jan 9, 2019 09:22:25   #
Morgan
 
PJT wrote:
Morgan: "unuseful i***ts? Can't you discuss without name calling?
The Founding Fathers (a phrase created by Pres. Harding) opposed a state church not religion. We separated from England and it's state religion, not religion in general or even Christianity.


Really, you like that, I used it in contrary to your comment to me calling me a useful i***t. I'm tired of asking people to be civil, so I'll swim is your swamp for a while, considering whenever I ask for it I'm simply called more names, so you want it, you got it, we can all play that low mentality game, it's not hard. You want opposing teams, OK, you want d******eness, I'm all in. I don't give a @#$%^

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Jan 9, 2019 09:27:12   #
Seth
 
Morgan wrote:
Look it up...and think


I have... And have.

And observed that it worked just fine and will continue to work just fine as long as we don't allow you worshippers at the altar of "wh**ever it takes to destroy this awesome nation" to do what Obama tried to do and "fundamentally change it."

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