slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

From Chrys Jordan, American citizen

Without consulting any sources, I knew that the four surviving US Presidents –Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush & Barack Obama– do not like Donald Trump. I am surprised anyone believed that any former US President would endorse Trump on anything, particularly that wall. But the question is about how Trump v**ers feel about Trump telling such a blatant lie and being caught at it.

I’m certainly not a Trump v**er. Even if Hell froze over, I still would not v**e for Trump. But I have gotten an earful from Trump’s followers.

The message I have been getting is that “f**e news” means “anything Donald Trump does not like” and/or “anything negative about Donald Trump.” Don’t take the term “f**e news” at face value. It’s really code for “I don’t want to believe you.”

So, based on past performance, Trump is likely to declare the former US Presidents’ denial as “f**e news.” He is likely to begin with: “They didn’t say that, it’s the liberals with their f**e news.” That will soon be changed and we will hear that the dastardly democrats have intimidated the four former US Presidents into renouncing Trump.

But Donald Trump has never let reality get in the way. He’s never even tried to tell a believable lie. He has been blatantly dishonest since 2016, and has only gotten worse. But if you say any of that to a Trump follower, you will probably hear at least one of the following:

You liberals must h**e America to say such evil things/You live in an echo chamber/You’re just mad because your candidate lost/f**e news/It’s TDS.

This is what they’ve been consistently saying since their travesty of a candidate was inaugurated to begin his travesty of an administration.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

eden

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO

Where did you find this bulls**t slatts from some obscure clown no one has ever heard of? Here's what I found (Google) and quickly came to the conclusion he/she is nothing more than your typical Trump h**er, (democrat) afflicted with advanced TDS.

https://www.quora.com/Do-most-Americans-h**e-Donald-Trump

bahmer

Amen and Amen

Wonttakeitanymore

Showing true coolers eh slat? Bet u v**ed for Obama! Just finished the wall around his property! Rental property at that! Just like when he rented the White House for his fraudulent reign!!! They stole the money that was allocated for the wall, why would they admit knowledge, uh how about I didn’t have sex the with that girl, oh and if u like ur dr u can keep them!!! Yea man they r t***h tellers!

Wonttakeitanymore

Compromise!!!! Is that to hard! Pls don’t talk about x presidents when only the liars are counted! And theives

kemmer

Obama’s front door is open to the street. And what happened to all the money already allocated to the border?

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO

Obama’s front door is open to the street.

He and moochelle have a wall of Secret Service in the grand foyer of the place.

And what happened to all the money already allocated to the border?

Ask the dimocrats.

kemmer

Very amusingly, so does Donny Jr.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

OPP is an open forum, Jake, and Chrys Jordon is simply another American citizen...just like you, myself and others on it. All voices count, and all should be heard. As Archie's thread, 'What are y'all gonna do' suggests, neither side should try to silence the other. Reading another's opinion is always optional. One always has the right and ability to accept, deny or simply ignore it.

As far as 'TDS' goes...Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) was originally a made up condition, conceived as a derisive label by the alt-right to attack anyone who criticizes or refuses to support Donald Trump. The idea being that others are so obsessed with Trump that many have collectively lost their minds. Unfortunately like many of their other little online crusades, this has backfired. People dislike Trump for actual reasons which often go well beyond just politics or partisanship, and if anyone has 'TDS', it's often those that blindly support him. Too many (not all) have lost their sense of morality, religious convictions, principles, objectivity, all discernment, and sometimes even the ability to have a civil discussion. So the term has now been co-opted by others to refer to Trump supporters who are blinded by their unrealistic devotion to Trump.

Also: Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their love of Donald Trump, to the point they will abandon all logic and reason.

Symptoms for this condition can be very diverse, ranging from xenophobic outbursts to a complete disconnection from reality. TDS can also often result in the sufferer exhibiting violent, homicidal, or even genocidal desires, particularly against residents from foreign countries.

Sufferers have also been known to wish direct self-harm on themselves (such as increased tariffs, a desire for tax cuts heavily favoring corporations and the 1%, infringement of first amendment rights, and even the destruction of NATO for comrade Putin), provided that action was initiated by Donald Trump.

Paranoia is also a common symptom of TDS. Sufferers have been known to believe that they are in some way being persecuted when their Trump related beliefs are questioned, and in some cases believe they are about to be a victim of an immigrant related crime. The paranoia does however not seem to be bad enough to make TDS sufferers attempt to actually becoming informed and think for themselves.

If properly treated, sufferers of TDS can make a full recovery. Many sufferers have been known to grow out of TDS, yet many can only be treated by having their condition directly treated through the application of logical reasoning. It is also known that products containing mole can exacerbate the condition.

In short, Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a satirical psychological diagnosis used to explain the hysterical reaction and belligerent behavior of people, directed towards anything related to President Donald Trump, as pertaining to his presidency.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

microphor Loc: Home is TN

Are you kidding me, you can pull the videos up yourself and hear them saying it, watch their mouths moving, see all their democrat supporters applauding it! Examples: 1. In President Barack Obama’s 2013 State Of The Union Address, Obama Called For Putting I******s “Behind The Folks Trying To Come Here Legally”.
2. In 2009, During A Speech At Georgetown Law, Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) Stated That “The American People Are Fundamentally Pro-Legal Immigration And Anti-I*****l I*********n.” SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “The American people are fundamentally pro-legal immigration and anti-i*****l i*********n. We will only pass comprehensive reform when we recognize this fundamental concept.” (Senator Chuck Schumer, Speech At The I*********n L*w & Policy Conference At Georgetown Law , Washington, D.C., 06/24/09)

Schumer Went On To Call I*****l I*********n “Wrong” And Added That A Primary Goal Of Immigration Reform “Must Be To Drastically Curtail Future I*****l I*********n.” SENATOR SCHUMER: “First, i*****l i*********n is wrong,” Schumer declared, “and a primary goal of comprehensive immigration reform must be to dramatically curtail future i*****l i*********n.” (Senator Chuck Schumer, Speech At The I*********n L*w & Policy Conference At Georgetown Law , Washington, D.C., 06/24/09)

3 . .In 2015, Senator Clinton Bragged That She “V**ed Numerous Times” To Spend Money To Build A Barrier, Adding That “You Do Have To Control Your Borders.” “‘I v**ed numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent i*****l i*******ts from coming in,’ Clinton said at November 2015 town hall in New Hampshire, ‘and I do think that you have to control your borders.’” (Annie Linksey, “In 2006, Democrats Were Saying ‘Build That Fence!’” Boston Globe , 1/27/17)

4.In 2013, All 54 Democrats V**ed To Pass The Border Security, Economic Opportunity, And Immigration Modernization Act. (S. 744, Roll Call V**e #168 : Passed 68-32: R 14-32; D 52-0; I 1-0, 6/27/13)

The Bill Required The Completion “700 Miles Of Pedestrian Fencing Along The Border.” “ Completing 700 miles of pedestrian fencing along the border, which would require approximately 350 new miles of fencing.” (“Immigration Bill Summary,” The Associated Press , 6/28/13)
The Bill Allocated Approximately $46 Billion On Border Security Improvements. “Border security spending in the bill totals around $46 billion.” (“Immigration Bill Summary,” The Associated Press , 6/28/13)
The Bill Calls For “Doubling The Number Of Border Patrol Agents Stationed Along The U.S.-Mexico Border.” “ Roughly doubling the number of Border Patrol agents stationed along the U.S.-Mexico border, to at least 38,405.” (“Immigration Bill Summary,” The Associated Press , 6/28/13)

But only Trump is lying?

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Welcome, Microphor, to the OPP forum. You seem to have missed the author's point...

"All living former presidents refute Trump's claim they 'privately' voiced support for border wall."

"All four living ex-presidents have publicly rebuffed President Trump’s claim that they 'privately' gushed about the need for a massive wall on the U.S.-Mexico border."

“This should have been done by all of the presidents that preceded me and they all know it," Trump said of his wall obsession. "Some of them have told me that we should have done it.”

President Trump was strongly implying that he personally and privately received the former presidents' approval for his wall plan.

We agree in that (seemingly) all politicians lie.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/donald-trump-apos-border-speech-054604564.html