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Jan 6, 2019 19:27:53   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
This is Meant in the most honest spirit of debate and in no way is intennded to slight or belittle the United States of America...


"A war between two countries is not the same as a t*****rous attack on your own country. "

"The Secession was a t*****rous action, plain and simple. Attacking and k*****g your fellow citizens. "

Based upon the above statements please answer the following question...

May I assume you consider all Americans t*****rs for rebelling against their lawful government (England)?

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Jan 7, 2019 11:42:30   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
This is Meant in the most honest spirit of debate and in no way is intennded to slight or belittle the United States of America...


"A war between two countries is not the same as a t*****rous attack on your own country. "

"The Secession was a t*****rous action, plain and simple. Attacking and k*****g your fellow citizens. "

Based upon the above statements please answer the following question...

May I assume you consider all Americans t*****rs for rebelling against their lawful government (England)?

No but maybe my 7th g Grandfather was. Born in the UK and stationed in the colonies but married a NY lady and stayed here. True. Captain Henry Pawling.

This is Meant in the most honest spirit of debate ... (show quote)

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Jan 7, 2019 19:45:52   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
One nation's t*****r is another nation's hero...

Impressive that you have held on to your family history...
I'm sixth generation Canadian myself... Of scottish decent... With Plenty of others mixed in along the way..

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Jan 7, 2019 23:36:07   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
This is Meant in the most honest spirit of debate and in no way is intennded to slight or belittle the United States of America...


"A war between two countries is not the same as a t*****rous attack on your own country. "

"The Secession was a t*****rous action, plain and simple. Attacking and k*****g your fellow citizens. "

Based upon the above statements please answer the following question...

May I assume you consider all Americans t*****rs for rebelling against their lawful government (England)?
This is Meant in the most honest spirit of debate ... (show quote)


Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. .They are many hiding behind the veil of oppression to later betray us all...~

Were they t*****rs?? In political philosophy, the right of revolution (or right of r*******n) is the right or duty of the the people of a nation to o*******w a government that acts against their common interests and/or threatens the safety of the people without cause... Arguably the people who chose to rise against the perceived oppressoon of them is not itself treason.. A right to fight against Tyranny~~ in other words..

I am a direct descendant of Paul Revere.. My grandmother came from Sweden..Two times English, swedish, cherokee Indian from my grandmother on my fathers side...Heinz 57 variety in other words...

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Jan 8, 2019 00:39:25   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
lindajoy wrote:
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. .They are many hiding behind the veil of oppression to later betray us all...~

Were they t*****rs?? In political philosophy, the right of revolution (or right of r*******n) is the right or duty of the the people of a nation to o*******w a government that acts against their common interests and/or threatens the safety of the people without cause... Arguably the people who chose to rise against the perceived oppressoon of them is not itself treason.. A right to fight against Tyranny~~ in other words..

I am a direct descendant of Paul Revere.. My grandmother came from Sweden..Two times English, swedish, cherokee Indian from my grandmother on my fathers side...Heinz 57 variety in other words...
Guard against the impostures of pretended patrioti... (show quote)


I liked that answer... Of course , depending on who one asks, the government is always acting against the Common interests of the people... Except when it's not working at all...

The right to fight against tyrrany is a beautiful concept... I think next week I may have to do tyrrany for my 'definitions' post... Kind of scary thinking about some of the answers our leftest friends on the OPP might give... Although when I consider some of the ideas proposed by our rightest friends on the OPP I am just as frightened...

As you probably know, Canada never fought for freedom... In fact most Canadians are unaware of our basic history... I am constantly amazed how much many American's (Especially of the mature generation) know about their history...

(If you ever want a good chuckle ask a Canadian what Canada means... odds are they don't know... and then you can make up just about any story you want and watch them nod and say 'that sounds right, eh')

In Canada we would call you Metis (pronounced like the pirate word matey)... It denotes someone of mixed native and european blood... I am also Metis (though I refused status) with Cree blood from my father's side...

Thanks for responding Lindajoy...

Yoir friend, Kyle

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Jan 8, 2019 00:55:15   #
debeda
 
lindajoy wrote:
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. .They are many hiding behind the veil of oppression to later betray us all...~

Were they t*****rs?? In political philosophy, the right of revolution (or right of r*******n) is the right or duty of the the people of a nation to o*******w a government that acts against their common interests and/or threatens the safety of the people without cause... Arguably the people who chose to rise against the perceived oppressoon of them is not itself treason.. A right to fight against Tyranny~~ in other words..

I am a direct descendant of Paul Revere.. My grandmother came from Sweden..Two times English, swedish, cherokee Indian from my grandmother on my fathers side...Heinz 57 variety in other words...
Guard against the impostures of pretended patrioti... (show quote)


The normal american - Heinz 57!!! I am not a direct descendant of anyone special - unless you consider horse thieves special - but I could join the DAR from my maternal grandpa's side. Most everybody else on both sides are from Germany circa 1860- 1895.

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Jan 8, 2019 01:05:43   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
debeda wrote:
The normal american - Heinz 57!!! I am not a direct descendant of anyone special - unless you consider horse thieves special - but I could join the DAR from my maternal grandpa's side. Most everybody else on both sides are from Germany circa 1860- 1895.


What is the DAR?

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Jan 8, 2019 01:12:24   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:


May I assume you consider all Americans t*****rs for rebelling against their lawful government (England)?


Nope, I consider them PATRIOTS.~~~



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Jan 8, 2019 01:13:35   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Nope, I consider them PATRIOTS.~~~


I quite enjoy that picture... Thanks

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Jan 8, 2019 01:15:43   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I quite enjoy that picture... Thanks



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Jan 8, 2019 01:19:04   #
debeda
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
What is the DAR?


Daughters of the American revolution

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Jan 8, 2019 01:20:01   #
debeda
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Nope, I consider them PATRIOTS.~~~


LOL I really love that pragmatic American can-do spirit

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Jan 8, 2019 01:23:33   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
debeda wrote:
Daughters of the American revolution


I am not familiar with this organization...

Will look it up in a bit...

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Jan 8, 2019 01:28:59   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I am not familiar with this organization...

Will look it up in a bit...


This wonderful organization gave me a beautiful engraved certificate for my service in Vietnam a couple of years ago. I donate annually on Veterans day.

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Jan 8, 2019 01:37:03   #
debeda
 
Jakebrake wrote:
This wonderful organization gave me a beautiful engraved certificate for my service in Vietnam a couple of years ago. I donate annually on Veterans day.



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