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May 6, 2014 12:53:22   #
Serenity54321
 
A Senator in California is presenting a new tax law aimed straight at the middle class: a tax levied for each mile you drive in your personal vehicle.

The tax is being introduced as the current revenue from the current gasoline tax drops due to more and more Americans driving fuel-efficient cars. The tax would be levied by your car insurance company, who would check the mileage on each and every vehicle you insure and add the tax to your monthly bill.

Democrats support the new tax for two reasons: one, it would encourage people to drive less and thus help the planet, and two it would generate much needed revenue for states as they struggle to pay their bills.

Republicans are arguing that this is simply another tax hike by Democrats aimed at destroying the middle class and thus putting more and more Americans who once were able to fend for themselves on government-assistance programs. They are upset about the already enormous tax burden on the shrinking workforce. People who work for a living must commute, and with public t***sportation really only being available in urban communities, they would have no choice but to pay this additional tax along with the taxes they already pay: gasoline and sales tax, fees for license and tags, clean air taxes, as well as a slew of other taxes and fees.

So now those who chose to help out the planet by choosing a more fuel-efficient vehicle gets punished?

What do you think?

BUENA PARK (CBSLA.com) — The California Legislature is looking at a voluntary program that would tax motorists for every mile they drive.

KCAL9’s Bobby Kaple reports that Sen. Mark DeSaulnier, D-Concord, introduced a bill to test out the vehicle miles traveled (VMT) tax because the state’s gas tax was no longer bringing in the revenue it used to due to people driving more fuel efficient vehicles.

The program is modeled after ones in Oregon and Washington.

“We want to do as Washington and Oregon have done in a much bigger state with much longer commutes…to make sure that we find out whether it would work, whether the public would like it or not,” DeSaulnier said.

It’s unknown how much the tax would be, but Oregon currently charges its volunteers 1.5 cents per mile.

“All of those things would be determined. We would let the agency determine that because this would be a voluntary program,” DeSaulnier said.

Southland commuters were not thrilled about the idea of a VMT tax.

“I bought a hybrid…one, because of my drive. I’m very opposed. I drive to Brentwood every day from Burbank, and I am already paying more than I should be,” Carmen Smith said.

“So if we go on vacation and I drive up to Mammoth, that’s 600 miles. We’re being taxed on vacations?” Kim Robinson said.



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May 6, 2014 13:04:16   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
Great example of how the Dem's have ruined a once great place to live.


Serenity54321 wrote:
A Senator in California is presenting a new tax law aimed straight at the middle class: a tax levied for each mile you drive in your personal vehicle.

The tax is being introduced as the current revenue from the current gasoline tax drops due to more and more Americans driving fuel-efficient cars. The tax would be levied by your car insurance company, who would check the mileage on each and every vehicle you insure and add the tax to your monthly bill.

Democrats support the new tax for two reasons: one, it would encourage people to drive less and thus help the planet, and two it would generate much needed revenue for states as they struggle to pay their bills.

Republicans are arguing that this is simply another tax hike by Democrats aimed at destroying the middle class and thus putting more and more Americans who once were able to fend for themselves on government-assistance programs. They are upset about the already enormous tax burden on the shrinking workforce. People who work for a living must commute, and with public t***sportation really only being available in urban communities, they would have no choice but to pay this additional tax along with the taxes they already pay: gasoline and sales tax, fees for license and tags, clean air taxes, as well as a slew of other taxes and fees.

So now those who chose to help out the planet by choosing a more fuel-efficient vehicle gets punished?

What do you think?

BUENA PARK (CBSLA.com) — The California Legislature is looking at a voluntary program that would tax motorists for every mile they drive.

KCAL9’s Bobby Kaple reports that Sen. Mark DeSaulnier, D-Concord, introduced a bill to test out the vehicle miles traveled (VMT) tax because the state’s gas tax was no longer bringing in the revenue it used to due to people driving more fuel efficient vehicles.

The program is modeled after ones in Oregon and Washington.

“We want to do as Washington and Oregon have done in a much bigger state with much longer commutes…to make sure that we find out whether it would work, whether the public would like it or not,” DeSaulnier said.

It’s unknown how much the tax would be, but Oregon currently charges its volunteers 1.5 cents per mile.

“All of those things would be determined. We would let the agency determine that because this would be a voluntary program,” DeSaulnier said.

Southland commuters were not thrilled about the idea of a VMT tax.

“I bought a hybrid…one, because of my drive. I’m very opposed. I drive to Brentwood every day from Burbank, and I am already paying more than I should be,” Carmen Smith said.

“So if we go on vacation and I drive up to Mammoth, that’s 600 miles. We’re being taxed on vacations?” Kim Robinson said.



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May 6, 2014 13:17:16   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
Serenity54321 wrote:
A Senator in California is presenting a new tax law aimed straight at the middle class: a tax levied for each mile you drive in your personal vehicle.

The tax is being introduced as the current revenue from the current gasoline tax drops due to more and more Americans driving fuel-efficient cars. The tax would be levied by your car insurance company, who would check the mileage on each and every vehicle you insure and add the tax to your monthly bill.

Democrats support the new tax for two reasons: one, it would encourage people to drive less and thus help the planet, and two it would generate much needed revenue for states as they struggle to pay their bills.

Republicans are arguing that this is simply another tax hike by Democrats aimed at destroying the middle class and thus putting more and more Americans who once were able to fend for themselves on government-assistance programs. They are upset about the already enormous tax burden on the shrinking workforce. People who work for a living must commute, and with public t***sportation really only being available in urban communities, they would have no choice but to pay this additional tax along with the taxes they already pay: gasoline and sales tax, fees for license and tags, clean air taxes, as well as a slew of other taxes and fees.

So now those who chose to help out the planet by choosing a more fuel-efficient vehicle gets punished?

What do you think?

BUENA PARK (CBSLA.com) — The California Legislature is looking at a voluntary program that would tax motorists for every mile they drive.

KCAL9’s Bobby Kaple reports that Sen. Mark DeSaulnier, D-Concord, introduced a bill to test out the vehicle miles traveled (VMT) tax because the state’s gas tax was no longer bringing in the revenue it used to due to people driving more fuel efficient vehicles.

The program is modeled after ones in Oregon and Washington.

“We want to do as Washington and Oregon have done in a much bigger state with much longer commutes…to make sure that we find out whether it would work, whether the public would like it or not,” DeSaulnier said.

It’s unknown how much the tax would be, but Oregon currently charges its volunteers 1.5 cents per mile.

“All of those things would be determined. We would let the agency determine that because this would be a voluntary program,” DeSaulnier said.

Southland commuters were not thrilled about the idea of a VMT tax.

“I bought a hybrid…one, because of my drive. I’m very opposed. I drive to Brentwood every day from Burbank, and I am already paying more than I should be,” Carmen Smith said.

“So if we go on vacation and I drive up to Mammoth, that’s 600 miles. We’re being taxed on vacations?” Kim Robinson said.



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Yeah, like that other lying democrat, F. D. Roosevelt, went around claiming that his new SS Law was "voluntary." How long does anyone think a "miles driven tax" would be "voluntary." All democrat politicians, and most republicans, are lying pieces of crap.

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May 6, 2014 13:20:14   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Trooper745 wrote:
Yeah, like that other lying democrat, F. D. Roosevelt, went around claiming that his new SS Law was "voluntary." How long does anyone think a "miles driven tax" would be "voluntary." All democrat politicians, and most republicans, are lying pieces of crap.

not enough lawyers in DC

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May 6, 2014 13:20:15   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Trooper745 wrote:
Yeah, like that other lying democrat, F. D. Roosevelt, went around claiming that his new SS Law was "voluntary." How long does anyone think a "miles driven tax" would be "voluntary." All democrat politicians, and most republicans, are lying pieces of crap.

not enough lawyers in DC

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May 6, 2014 15:13:59   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
cesspool jones wrote:
not enough lawyers in DC


This actually scares the piss out of me, I drive 70,000 miles a year on business. I itemize my expenses on my federal income tax, would they then just give 53.5 cents a mile instead of 55 ?

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May 6, 2014 15:25:20   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
This actually scares the piss out of me, I drive 70,000 miles a year on business. I itemize my expenses on my federal income tax, would they then just give 53.5 cents a mile instead of 55 ?

whatz wrong with a new boston tea party??

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May 6, 2014 15:38:50   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
cesspool jones wrote:
whatz wrong with a new boston tea party??


I use to drive a midsize crossover and six months ago downsized to a hybrid as have millions of other Americans, giving them a country less dependent on f****l f**ls.

I don't live in California for many reasons but where they go so go the libs in MN.

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May 6, 2014 15:40:53   #
Had enough
 
Let the 1 % pay. I have been financially destroyed by this administration as it is. I don't have the money to pay any more taxes!!! obamas just going to waste the money anyway either by more stupid ideas like solyndra, or government controlled healthcare plans, or lavish vacations. This is the dumbest idea ever!! why not just better utilize the money stolen from Americans already!! Who will monitor how much we owe, who will collect from the i******s driving on our roads, when do we pay these new fees and to whom do we pay them.

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May 6, 2014 16:11:18   #
Serenity54321
 
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
This actually scares the piss out of me, I drive 70,000 miles a year on business. I itemize my expenses on my federal income tax, would they then just give 53.5 cents a mile instead of 55 ?


That's a good question. If someone uses their personal vehicle for business, would they be charged for their business miles as well as their personal miles? If not, how would we prevent massive fraud?

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May 6, 2014 16:13:20   #
Serenity54321
 
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
I use to drive a midsize crossover and six months ago downsized to a hybrid as have millions of other Americans, giving them a country less dependent on f****l f**ls.

I don't live in California for many reasons but where they go so go the libs in MN.


Yes and now they want to penalize you for buying a hybrid to "save the environment," so to speak. Oops they forgot they wouldn't be collecting enough gasoline tax from you so now they've got to find another way....

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May 6, 2014 16:24:49   #
rcksha
 
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
I use to drive a midsize crossover and six months ago downsized to a hybrid as have millions of other Americans, giving them a country less dependent on f****l f**ls.

I don't live in California for many reasons but where they go so go the libs in MN.


Boy have you been hoodwinkled, just wait till you gotta change the battery pack in that piece of junk. Those things will pay for a lot of f****l f**ls that we have an abundance of. $5-8,000 every 5 to 7 years, sometimes less.

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May 6, 2014 17:46:29   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
rcksha wrote:
Boy have you been hoodwinkled, just wait till you gotta change the battery pack in that piece of junk. Those things will pay for a lot of f****l f**ls that we have an abundance of. $5-8,000 every 5 to 7 years, sometimes less.


I did my home work on estimated long term costs, and it actually pays for itself.

So long as the gov doesn't decide it needs more money for more programs that will never be held accountable or meet any desired goals.

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May 6, 2014 20:39:08   #
rcksha
 
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
I did my home work on estimated long term costs, and it actually pays for itself.

So long as the gov doesn't decide it needs more money for more programs that will never be held accountable or meet any desired goals.


Good point. How often has that not happened? I don't feel these things have been out long enough to get credible info on long term costs. I have two friends that have had them 2 and 3 years and both have had major problems. Good luck.

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May 7, 2014 06:28:27   #
silvereagle
 
I heard about this about 2 years ago.It is already being tested in some states.I live in Columbia,S.C. Richland county. We are already paying 3 separate taxes for our roads and bridges.Gas tax,1 cent sales tax and a road fee [tax]of$20-$30 per vehicle we drive.I also heard that little black boxes would be installed in all our cars.The new cars already have this in them[didn't know that did you?]Our roads are falling apart and they are patching them instead of doing the proper repairs.Where the hell is all our money going? NOT to fix the roads.

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