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Dec 29, 2018 15:07:33   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
As the smoke settles from 2018's fires at the close of the year, it serves as a stark reminder of the raging wildfires that have plagued California and the rest of the American West. More than 8.5 million acres (34,600 square kilometers) burned this year, according to the National Interagency Fire Center, and they burned faster and hotter than experts have ever seen.

But how do such wildfires start in the first place?

Fire arises out of three ingredients: fuel, heat and oxygen. Oxygen is readily available in the air, so that leaves fuel and heat. The fuel is anything that will burn, including brush, grass, trees and even houses. The dryer the fuel, the more easily it burns. And the last component — heat — burns the fuel and desiccates, or dries up, the surrounding area as the fire spreads. [What Is Fire?]

In other words, "a source [of heat] hits receptive fuel that's dry enough to burn," said Lenya Quinn-Davidson, a fire analyst for the University of California Cooperative Extension forestry program in Northern California. In the right conditions, those three factors are all it takes to set a wildfire in motion.

These natural disasters, however, often have unnatural beginnings.

In the United States, 84 percent of the 1.5 million wildfires reported from 1992 to 2012 were human-caused, while 16 percent were sparked by a lightning strike, according to a 2017 study published in the journal the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. For instance, a spark caused by the scrape of a tire rim on the asphalt started the Carr Fire in Redding, California. Last month's Camp Fire is still under investigation, but malfunctioning power lines are suspect.

However, ignition is only the beginning. For a spark to grow into a sustained wildfire, there must be a perfect combination of factors, such as "dry conditions and really strong winds," Quinn-Davidson told Live Science. And because of c*****e c****e, dry conditions are lasting longer and, in turn, causing longer fire seasons.

"Fifty years ago, mid-November was wet. Maybe we would have [strong] winds, but it would be too wet to start a fire [in California]," Quinn-Davidson said. But mid-November of 2018 was dry enough to perpetuate the most deadly and destructive fire in the Golden State's history.

Though it's been a record-breaking year in California, wildfires are not new. In fact, they are a natural and necessary part of many ecosystems, including California's forests. But the wildfires we see today are different from those natural blazes, burning faster and hotter.

"Historically, California burned more than it does now, but at [a] lower intensity and slower," Quinn-Davidson said. "Now, we are seeing fires that are unusual, like the Camp Fire that, at one point, burned through 70,000 acres [about 280 square km] in a day. We've never seen that before."

The change in our climate, perpetuated by human-made greenhouse gas emissions, extends the window of the annual fire season. But wildfires also burn faster and hotter simply because there is more fuel to burn.

For example, the boreal forest in Canada and Alaska has seen an increased number of lighting-ignited wildfires since 1975, likely due to earlier snow melts and fuel drying brought on by g****l w*****g, a 2017 study in the journal Nature C*****e C****e found.

There has been a "war on fire" over the past 100 years or so, Quinn-Davidson said. And that, ironically, has increased the risk of large fires. Today, scientists and conservationists understand that fire is a critical factor in the health of ecosystems. But that wasn't always the case. Suppressing smaller fires for the better part of a century allowed fuels to build up. Forests that were once park-like — open, with with big trees — became dense with small trees and brush, the perfect fuel for a fire.

As the fuels amassed, humans moved closer to wildland areas, according to a 2018 study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Establishing less-than-strategic communities right on the edge of thicketed forests has put more lives and homes at risk, the study found.

Based on the Fourth National Climate Assessment, completed just last month, wildfires will continue to intensify with the changing climate, maybe even becoming a problem in other regions of the United States. So, communities need to focus on becoming more resilient to these natural disasters, Quinn-Davidson said.

But she added that she's hopeful, because many communities are already taking steps and setting precedents. "A lot of communities [are] actively working on becoming fire-adaptive [and learning] how to live with fire and design a community in a way that is not so vulnerable," Quinn-Davidson said.

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Dec 29, 2018 15:18:52   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
badbobby wrote:
As the smoke settles from 2018's fires at the close of the year, it serves as a stark reminder of the raging wildfires that have plagued California and the rest of the American West. More than 8.5 million acres (34,600 square kilometers) burned this year, according to the National Interagency Fire Center, and they burned faster and hotter than experts have ever seen.

But how do such wildfires start in the first place?

Fire arises out of three ingredients: fuel, heat and oxygen. Oxygen is readily available in the air, so that leaves fuel and heat. The fuel is anything that will burn, including brush, grass, trees and even houses. The dryer the fuel, the more easily it burns. And the last component — heat — burns the fuel and desiccates, or dries up, the surrounding area as the fire spreads. [What Is Fire?]

In other words, "a source [of heat] hits receptive fuel that's dry enough to burn," said Lenya Quinn-Davidson, a fire analyst for the University of California Cooperative Extension forestry program in Northern California. In the right conditions, those three factors are all it takes to set a wildfire in motion.

These natural disasters, however, often have unnatural beginnings.

In the United States, 84 percent of the 1.5 million wildfires reported from 1992 to 2012 were human-caused, while 16 percent were sparked by a lightning strike, according to a 2017 study published in the journal the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. For instance, a spark caused by the scrape of a tire rim on the asphalt started the Carr Fire in Redding, California. Last month's Camp Fire is still under investigation, but malfunctioning power lines are suspect.

However, ignition is only the beginning. For a spark to grow into a sustained wildfire, there must be a perfect combination of factors, such as "dry conditions and really strong winds," Quinn-Davidson told Live Science. And because of c*****e c****e, dry conditions are lasting longer and, in turn, causing longer fire seasons.

"Fifty years ago, mid-November was wet. Maybe we would have [strong] winds, but it would be too wet to start a fire [in California]," Quinn-Davidson said. But mid-November of 2018 was dry enough to perpetuate the most deadly and destructive fire in the Golden State's history.

Though it's been a record-breaking year in California, wildfires are not new. In fact, they are a natural and necessary part of many ecosystems, including California's forests. But the wildfires we see today are different from those natural blazes, burning faster and hotter.

"Historically, California burned more than it does now, but at [a] lower intensity and slower," Quinn-Davidson said. "Now, we are seeing fires that are unusual, like the Camp Fire that, at one point, burned through 70,000 acres [about 280 square km] in a day. We've never seen that before."

The change in our climate, perpetuated by human-made greenhouse gas emissions, extends the window of the annual fire season. But wildfires also burn faster and hotter simply because there is more fuel to burn.

For example, the boreal forest in Canada and Alaska has seen an increased number of lighting-ignited wildfires since 1975, likely due to earlier snow melts and fuel drying brought on by g****l w*****g, a 2017 study in the journal Nature C*****e C****e found.

There has been a "war on fire" over the past 100 years or so, Quinn-Davidson said. And that, ironically, has increased the risk of large fires. Today, scientists and conservationists understand that fire is a critical factor in the health of ecosystems. But that wasn't always the case. Suppressing smaller fires for the better part of a century allowed fuels to build up. Forests that were once park-like — open, with with big trees — became dense with small trees and brush, the perfect fuel for a fire.

As the fuels amassed, humans moved closer to wildland areas, according to a 2018 study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Establishing less-than-strategic communities right on the edge of thicketed forests has put more lives and homes at risk, the study found.

Based on the Fourth National Climate Assessment, completed just last month, wildfires will continue to intensify with the changing climate, maybe even becoming a problem in other regions of the United States. So, communities need to focus on becoming more resilient to these natural disasters, Quinn-Davidson said.

But she added that she's hopeful, because many communities are already taking steps and setting precedents. "A lot of communities [are] actively working on becoming fire-adaptive [and learning] how to live with fire and design a community in a way that is not so vulnerable," Quinn-Davidson said.
As the smoke settles from 2018's fires at the clos... (show quote)


The major reason the fires in California were so bad was due to their environmental policies which kept them from clearing brush, dead trees and good governance of the land. Yes, things are drier and hotter but that is no excuse for the bad policies they had in place. Reap what you sow!

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Dec 29, 2018 15:27:51   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Noraa wrote:
The major reason the fires in California were so bad was due to their environmental policies which kept them from clearing brush, dead trees and good governance of the land. Yes, things are drier and hotter but that is no excuse for the bad policies they had in place. Reap what you sow!


thanks Nora
you are definitely correct
at least in my mind

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Dec 29, 2018 15:30:25   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
badbobby wrote:
thanks Nora
you are definitely correct
at least in my mind



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Dec 29, 2018 16:25:55   #
bahmer
 
Noraa wrote:
The major reason the fires in California were so bad was due to their environmental policies which kept them from clearing brush, dead trees and good governance of the land. Yes, things are drier and hotter but that is no excuse for the bad policies they had in place. Reap what you sow!


Amen and Amen

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Dec 29, 2018 16:28:53   #
bahmer
 
badbobby wrote:
As the smoke settles from 2018's fires at the close of the year, it serves as a stark reminder of the raging wildfires that have plagued California and the rest of the American West. More than 8.5 million acres (34,600 square kilometers) burned this year, according to the National Interagency Fire Center, and they burned faster and hotter than experts have ever seen.

But how do such wildfires start in the first place?

Fire arises out of three ingredients: fuel, heat and oxygen. Oxygen is readily available in the air, so that leaves fuel and heat. The fuel is anything that will burn, including brush, grass, trees and even houses. The dryer the fuel, the more easily it burns. And the last component — heat — burns the fuel and desiccates, or dries up, the surrounding area as the fire spreads. [What Is Fire?]

In other words, "a source [of heat] hits receptive fuel that's dry enough to burn," said Lenya Quinn-Davidson, a fire analyst for the University of California Cooperative Extension forestry program in Northern California. In the right conditions, those three factors are all it takes to set a wildfire in motion.

These natural disasters, however, often have unnatural beginnings.

In the United States, 84 percent of the 1.5 million wildfires reported from 1992 to 2012 were human-caused, while 16 percent were sparked by a lightning strike, according to a 2017 study published in the journal the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. For instance, a spark caused by the scrape of a tire rim on the asphalt started the Carr Fire in Redding, California. Last month's Camp Fire is still under investigation, but malfunctioning power lines are suspect.

However, ignition is only the beginning. For a spark to grow into a sustained wildfire, there must be a perfect combination of factors, such as "dry conditions and really strong winds," Quinn-Davidson told Live Science. And because of c*****e c****e, dry conditions are lasting longer and, in turn, causing longer fire seasons.

"Fifty years ago, mid-November was wet. Maybe we would have [strong] winds, but it would be too wet to start a fire [in California]," Quinn-Davidson said. But mid-November of 2018 was dry enough to perpetuate the most deadly and destructive fire in the Golden State's history.

Though it's been a record-breaking year in California, wildfires are not new. In fact, they are a natural and necessary part of many ecosystems, including California's forests. But the wildfires we see today are different from those natural blazes, burning faster and hotter.

"Historically, California burned more than it does now, but at [a] lower intensity and slower," Quinn-Davidson said. "Now, we are seeing fires that are unusual, like the Camp Fire that, at one point, burned through 70,000 acres [about 280 square km] in a day. We've never seen that before."

The change in our climate, perpetuated by human-made greenhouse gas emissions, extends the window of the annual fire season. But wildfires also burn faster and hotter simply because there is more fuel to burn.

For example, the boreal forest in Canada and Alaska has seen an increased number of lighting-ignited wildfires since 1975, likely due to earlier snow melts and fuel drying brought on by g****l w*****g, a 2017 study in the journal Nature C*****e C****e found.

There has been a "war on fire" over the past 100 years or so, Quinn-Davidson said. And that, ironically, has increased the risk of large fires. Today, scientists and conservationists understand that fire is a critical factor in the health of ecosystems. But that wasn't always the case. Suppressing smaller fires for the better part of a century allowed fuels to build up. Forests that were once park-like — open, with with big trees — became dense with small trees and brush, the perfect fuel for a fire.

As the fuels amassed, humans moved closer to wildland areas, according to a 2018 study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Establishing less-than-strategic communities right on the edge of thicketed forests has put more lives and homes at risk, the study found.

Based on the Fourth National Climate Assessment, completed just last month, wildfires will continue to intensify with the changing climate, maybe even becoming a problem in other regions of the United States. So, communities need to focus on becoming more resilient to these natural disasters, Quinn-Davidson said.

But she added that she's hopeful, because many communities are already taking steps and setting precedents. "A lot of communities [are] actively working on becoming fire-adaptive [and learning] how to live with fire and design a community in a way that is not so vulnerable," Quinn-Davidson said.
As the smoke settles from 2018's fires at the clos... (show quote)


I will call BS on the g****l w*****g phenomena listed above and they don't have any proof that is accurate regarding these accusations.

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Dec 29, 2018 16:37:05   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
I will call BS on the g****l w*****g phenomena listed above and they don't have any proof that is accurate regarding these accusations.


Agreed. My daughter lives in a village that's in a branch of the Palo Duro canyon. In 2011, the entire village was nearly wiped out by a wildfire. Now, they have annual cleanups of overgrown, and dead brush. There has been one fire in the 4 years that she's lived there that was quickly brought under control simply because the fuel for it to get out of hand wasn't there. It only makes sense if you think about it.

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Dec 29, 2018 17:45:47   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
bahmer wrote:
I will call BS on the g****l w*****g phenomena listed above and they don't have any proof that is accurate regarding these accusations.


bahm
I do believe there is global warmin
jus like there will be global fallin temps
but it is a natural occurrence
has happened many times in the history of this world
of course it is possible that mankind is helping it along

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Dec 29, 2018 17:52:53   #
bahmer
 
badbobby wrote:
bahm
I do believe there is global warmin
jus like there will be global fallin temps
but it is a natural occurrence
has happened many times in the history of this world
of course it is possible that mankind is helping it along


Lets just call global temperature changes and leave it at that.
As the earth goes around the sun and spins about its axis many
things occur and they may or may not cause cooling or warming
based on the phenomena that is affecting the earth at that time.
It could be sunspots or sun flareups which would or could case warming
or cooling based on which one and distance from the sun at that time.
Most all are God controlled and out of our realm to either control or change them.
that is where I am at this time of my life and so I will leave it there.

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Dec 29, 2018 17:54:58   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
bahmer wrote:
Lets just call global temperature changes and leave it at that.
As the earth goes around the sun and spins about its axis many
things occur and they may or may not cause cooling or warming
based on the phenomena that is affecting the earth at that time.
It could be sunspots or sun flareups which would or could case warming
or cooling based on which one and distance from the sun at that time.
Most all are God controlled and out of our realm to either control or change them.
that is where I am at this time of my life and so I will leave it there.
Lets just call global temperature changes and lea... (show quote)



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Dec 30, 2018 09:38:56   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Noraa wrote:
The major reason the fires in California were so bad was due to their environmental policies which kept them from clearing brush, dead trees and good governance of the land. Yes, things are drier and hotter but that is no excuse for the bad policies they had in place. Reap what you sow!


Spot On Noraa !

Seems to me that now moonbeam Brown has now seemly starting to wake up to that fact !

Will he do anything about it only time will tell but he's on his way out so it will probably stay same o same o

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Dec 30, 2018 13:38:44   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
4430 wrote:
Spot On Noraa !

Seems to me that now moonbeam Brown has now seemly starting to wake up to that fact !

Will he do anything about it only time will tell but he's on his way out so it will probably stay same o same o


On his way out so he can run for Pres before anyone can nail him on his horrible past policies.

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Dec 30, 2018 13:57:39   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Noraa wrote:
On his way out so he can run for Pres before anyone can nail him on his horrible past policies.


I hadn't heard that yet my sister lives in Calif and she hasn't mentioned that but who knows , however he would be hard pressed to win at being a dog catcher !

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Dec 30, 2018 15:02:28   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
4430 wrote:
I hadn't heard that yet my sister lives in Calif and she hasn't mentioned that but who knows , however he would be hard pressed to win at being a dog catcher !


Ummmmmm......That's Animal Control Officer!!
Dog Catcher is demeaning!

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Dec 30, 2018 15:53:57   #
EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast
 
badbobby wrote:
thanks Nora
you are definitely correct
at least in my mind


Mother Nature suggests proper forest management or she will do it for you. Not a lot of dry underbrush and fuel left now is there?
Tree huggers, take note.

Also there is no justification in allowing houses to be built where incineration is probable no more justified than in allowing houses to be built in a flood plain next to a river.

Insurance companies, take note.

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