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Dec 26, 2018 19:18:56   #
Bcon
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Close, very close, but no cigar. The market will 'tank' when the 'smart money' gets out because there will be a glut of unsold stocks and a dearth of willing 'investors'. Like I was saying, when you move $billions around every day, you get to make those 'little' decisions, like choosing when the market takes a dive. They'll sell off, wait a month or two, then buy back in at a very nice profit, ready to 'shear the sheep' all over again.

The best advice I ever got about investing in the stock market is don't.

You can't lose what you didn't bet.
Close, very close, but no cigar. The market will ... (show quote)


You can’t win, either. And money not invested is a guaranteed loss due to inflation. The hundred dollars that you put in the bank ten years ago, with the low interest rates available, is probably worth about six dollars now. Life itself is a gamble, that what makes it interesting.

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Dec 26, 2018 19:40:41   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Bcon wrote:
You can’t win, either. And money not invested is a guaranteed loss due to inflation. The hundred dollars that you put in the bank ten years ago, with the low interest rates available, is probably worth about six dollars now.

So what do you propose we do about it? The Federal reserve inflates our legally mandated currency by cashing government credit demands and printing up trillions of dollars at the push of a button, diluting the value of the fiat dollars in our pockets through government spending. A dollar from 2018 will buy the same as two cents would have purchased in 1913. In order to just retain the purchasing power of your 'money', you are obliged to multiply your asset value by a factor of fifty, and you are still just 'treading water'. Inflation is the most insidious tax ever to be devised, because not one in a thousand can grasp the mechanism but we all feel its effects.

Bcon wrote:
Life itself is a gamble, that what makes it interesting.

Life is a risk, certainly, but a gamble? That implies a voluntary choice. Certainly we make many choices in the course of our lives, but to describe 'life' as a gamble doesn't sit well. How many choices do you make that you elect for yourself and how many are foisted upon you either by circumstances beyond your control or because of some unseen consequence of a past action?

It's certainly interesting though...

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Dec 26, 2018 19:48:27   #
Bcon
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Life is a risk, certainly, but a gamble? That implies a voluntary choice. Certainly we make many choices in the course of our lives, but to describe 'life' as a gamble doesn't sit well. How many choices do you make that you elect for yourself and how many are foisted upon you either by circumstances beyond your control or because of some unseen consequence of a past action?

It's certainly interesting though...


I say life is a gamble by thinking I can cross the street and think I will be okay, but who is to say a drunk driver won’t hit and k**l me. There are no guarantees in life. No matter what you do, anything can happen any time.

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Dec 26, 2018 20:03:31   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Bcon wrote:
I say life is a gamble by thinking I can cross the street and think I will be okay, but who is to say a drunk driver won’t hit and k**l me. There are no guarantees in life. No matter what you do, anything can happen any time.


Do you look both ways before stepping into the road? I'm betting you do. You see, crossing a road after observing for safety is one way of minimizing your risk of being hit by a car. That's not gambling, that's 'playing it safe', and in my experience it works every time. Now, if you just walked out without looking, that would be a gamble, and your chances of being hit by a car are increased dramatically. Would you bet your life on the likelihood that you would not be hit? I wouldn't, that's why I look both ways, then cross.

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Dec 26, 2018 20:09:42   #
Bcon
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Do you look both ways before stepping into the road? I'm betting you do. You see, crossing a road after observing for safety is one way of minimizing your risk of being hit by a car. That's not gambling, that's 'playing it safe', and in my experience it works every time. Now, if you just walked out without looking, that would be a gamble, and your chances of being hit by a car are increased dramatically. Would you bet your life on the likelihood that you would not be hit? I wouldn't, that's why I look both ways, then cross.
Do you look both ways before stepping into the roa... (show quote)


Okay, how about tripping or falling down stairs ? No one wants to, but it verybday. Can anyone guarantee that they are going to wake up when they fall asleep. No guyarantees.

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Dec 26, 2018 20:28:08   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Do you walk around the house blindfolded? Do you smoke in bed? Do you keep a generator in your living room? Do you run with a pair of scissors? (Okay, that last one was somewhat snarky, but you are being somewhat obtuse, so...)

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Dec 26, 2018 21:28:36   #
Bcon
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Do you walk around the house blindfolded? Do you smoke in bed? Do you keep a generator in your living room? Do you run with a pair of scissors? (Okay, that last one was somewhat snarky, but you are being somewhat obtuse, so...)


So you don’t think it is possible for you to die any way but old age. Wish I had your neck.

There are many things that are a gamble.. do you think you are immune to cancer or other disease? As I said, you pay your money, you take youchance. That’s a gamble.

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Dec 26, 2018 21:51:22   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Bcon wrote:
So you don’t think it is possible for you to die any way but old age. Wish I had your neck.

Where did I say that? I'm trying (and failing miserably) to point out that there is a difference between a risk and a gamble. Risk is something that you can minimize, a gamble is something you go into blindly, hoping for a favorable outcome. Both are based on probability, though risk is influenced by factors we can introduce, a gamble does not afford that opportunity. When you bet on a racehorse, you take a gamble; when you cross the street, you take a risk.

Bcon wrote:
There are many things that are a gamble.. do you think you are immune to cancer or other disease?

What on this green Earth does cancer or disease have to do with gambling? Do you wash your hands before you eat? Risk minimization, not gambling.

Bcon wrote:
As I said, you pay your money, you take youchance. That’s a gamble.

That's all very well, but what does that have to do with life?

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Dec 26, 2018 23:28:52   #
Bcon
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
That's all very well, but what does that have to do with life?

I think it is a matter of semantics. All life is not a risk. You create your own risks also. Gamble or risk, there is nothing certain except eventual death in one way or another.

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Dec 27, 2018 00:14:49   #
debeda
 
Bcon wrote:
I think it is a matter of semantics. All life is not a risk. You create your own risks also. Gamble or risk, there is nothing certain except eventual death in one way or another.


Very true. Life is a death sentence.

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Jan 5, 2019 09:53:31   #
Kevyn
 
Weasel wrote:
It wasn't me, but I sure lost my A$$.
Please, could someone tell me what happened?
I have talked to everyone I know that had stock in those two companies. They all said the same thing. What happened?
Much of it is done through electronic trading, your holdings are like a kid with his piggy bank in the lobby of the local bank. Take a look at iPhone sales in China and it might give you an idea of why, as far as Facebook they are taking hits from all sides the right wing nutters accuse them of censorship for removal of posts that don’t comply with their terms and conditions, the left wants to crack down on their sharing of users personal information.

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