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We're Coming Out Of The Rhetoric Zone...Where Facts Can Be Precisely Seen For A Change
Dec 9, 2018 16:58:58   #
woodguru
 
Without the facts, documents that say exactly what evidence is being used for positions, the right and FOX spend their time treating the pieces we see like they are f**e news, and build a complete defense based on biased speculation.

Now we are seeing the legal accusations put in hard cold black and white, and the violations are being listed in the form a court demands...

What is going to get through to people who run on rhetoric is that the specific crimes will be listed, Trump's part as Individual 1 is being specified, and we have seen Trump do the things he is being cited on. When he's lied he's done it on national television, thereby lying to the American people. When the specific section of the law is read it clearly states what constitutes a lie, it is what it is, Trump did what he did. Then when it goes to congress to decide what must be done about the president blatantly breaking the law they really are stuck and forced to fulfill their oath to uphold the law. If Congess passes an impeachment the senate is going to be forced to as well.

I personally think the GOP is already cracking, they know dems are coming into the house to do things the GOP has refused to, they are going to be forced to proactively be seen to be doing what they already should have.

It would not surprise me to see the GOP file articles of impeachment in a proactive move, and be able to lay impeachment on dems shoulders.

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Dec 9, 2018 17:03:56   #
Liberty Tree
 
woodguru wrote:
Without the facts, documents that say exactly what evidence is being used for positions, the right and FOX spend their time treating the pieces we see like they are f**e news, and build a complete defense based on biased speculation.

Now we are seeing the legal accusations put in hard cold black and white, and the violations are being listed in the form a court demands...

What is going to get through to people who run on rhetoric is that the specific crimes will be listed, Trump's part as Individual 1 is being specified, and we have seen Trump do the things he is being cited on. When he's lied he's done it on national television, thereby lying to the American people. When the specific section of the law is read it clearly states what constitutes a lie, it is what it is, Trump did what he did. Then when it goes to congress to decide what must be done about the president blatantly breaking the law they really are stuck and forced to fulfill their oath to uphold the law. If Congess passes an impeachment the senate is going to be forced to as well.

I personally think the GOP is already cracking, they know dems are coming into the house to do things the GOP has refused to, they are going to be forced to proactively be seen to be doing what they already should have.

It would not surprise me to see the GOP file articles of impeachment in a proactive move, and be able to lay impeachment on dems shoulders.
Without the facts, documents that say exactly what... (show quote)


Fortunately, what you think does not matter.

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Dec 9, 2018 17:25:33   #
Seth
 
woodguru wrote:
Without the facts, documents that say exactly what evidence is being used for positions, the right and FOX spend their time treating the pieces we see like they are f**e news, and build a complete defense based on biased speculation.

Now we are seeing the legal accusations put in hard cold black and white, and the violations are being listed in the form a court demands...

What is going to get through to people who run on rhetoric is that the specific crimes will be listed, Trump's part as Individual 1 is being specified, and we have seen Trump do the things he is being cited on. When he's lied he's done it on national television, thereby lying to the American people. When the specific section of the law is read it clearly states what constitutes a lie, it is what it is, Trump did what he did. Then when it goes to congress to decide what must be done about the president blatantly breaking the law they really are stuck and forced to fulfill their oath to uphold the law. If Congess passes an impeachment the senate is going to be forced to as well.

I personally think the GOP is already cracking, they know dems are coming into the house to do things the GOP has refused to, they are going to be forced to proactively be seen to be doing what they already should have.

It would not surprise me to see the GOP file articles of impeachment in a proactive move, and be able to lay impeachment on dems shoulders.
Without the facts, documents that say exactly what... (show quote)


When you come up with these little tidbits, does posting about them interfere with your nap time?

Does Mommy know you're touching the computer?

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Dec 9, 2018 17:37:40   #
Liberty Tree
 
Seth wrote:
When you come up with these little tidbits, does posting about them interfere with your nap time?

Does Mommy know you're touching the computer?


He believes everything he reads on some ELWNJ site.

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Dec 9, 2018 17:41:24   #
woodguru
 
I tried to read up on California's egregious b****t farming, it sounded horrible when the articles talked about it like it was in reality 250,000 cases of v***r f***d.

Get away from the right wing spin zone and it's nothing like they say it is.

It would hurt to have a brain that operates on beliefs, that is so easy to alarm and mislead

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Dec 9, 2018 17:57:39   #
Liberty Tree
 
woodguru wrote:
I tried to read up on California's egregious b****t farming, it sounded horrible when the articles talked about it like it was in reality 250,000 cases of v***r f***d.

Get away from the right wing spin zone and it's nothing like they say it is.

It would hurt to have a brain that operates on beliefs, that is so easy to alarm and mislead


Where did you read about it on a left wing spin zone?

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Dec 9, 2018 18:08:45   #
Seth
 
woodguru wrote:
I tried to read up on California's egregious b****t farming, it sounded horrible when the articles talked about it like it was in reality 250,000 cases of v***r f***d.

Get away from the right wing spin zone and it's nothing like they say it is.

It would hurt to have a brain that operates on beliefs, that is so easy to alarm and mislead


And you believe, then, that as long as those "in reality 250,000 cases of v***r f***d" were all perpetrated by Democrats, there is "nothing to see here..."

If one Republican had done something like that, the poor wretch would be meat and drink for CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the l*****t propaganda machine for the next three weeks.

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