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Dec 4, 2018 08:29:13   #
Bad Bob (a regular here)
 
proud republican wrote:
When all the guns been banned.....

When all the words been censored.....


When all the history been erased......

When all the freedom have been taken.......

Only then will you discover that you should've spoken up and done something about it!!!......

When all the guns been banned..... br br When all... (show quote)



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Dec 4, 2018 08:36:17   #
lindajoy (a regular here)
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Start kicking some serious ass. May be too late, but action speaks louder than words. I'm ready, but I'll need a lot of help.


We get what we allow~~
Make these people accountable for their actions~ start charging them instead of resignations with full benefits.. Call for their ousting, recall, dereliction of duty. Etc...

Term limits have to be in place.. A must<~

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Dec 4, 2018 08:59:41   #
smithdw55
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Please explain what you mean by Fascism and Nationalism, Kev. I don't think you'd know a fascist if one jumped up and bit you in the butt.


I'm with U Bernie. The young people of today have somehow twisted and warped the meaning of Fascism and clearly can't delineate nor understand the difference between it and Nationalism as President Trump has identified. However using a child's definition or version of the definition of Nationalism: "a feeling that people have of being loyal to and proud of their country often with the belief that it is better and more important than other countries" so it isn't to difficult for Kev to understand. I would like for him to describe to me the problem with being a Nationalist as an American.

We a are greater than most other country's simply stated. Beside the facts bare out that bottom line our country's economy is the basis for the world economy, it's growth and success, it all starts with the US $$$$.πŸ˜‰ Just answer this young Kev, what other country in the world has ever freed as many people as we have? What other country in the world has come to the aide of those in dire need as a result of natural disasters or internal strife as we do? What other country in the world has after defeating a nation that attacked and declared war on us, all but rebuilt that same nation? What other country in the world takes in as many immigrants providing them the possibility and hope of a life better than they could never possibly have in their motherland? What other country in the world has spent more of our treasure and young American lives, men/women to ensure that a person can sit safe and secure in the confines of their home and community and criticize and peacefully, and often violently, protest the very government that provides the freedom for them to to do so without fear of imprisonment or worse, when peaceful, no matter how stupid and ignorant they may sound to intelligent rational thinking people?

As for Fascism, todays young people are totally clueless. Although to be fair even in my youth "E.B. White wrote in The New Yorker in 1946 that the meaning of fascist had degenerated to the point where β€œa Fascist is a man who votes the other way.” This is obviously where we are still at today. But for young Kev, β€œit is a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.” The reality for Kev should be "centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader", I would remind Kev that although his silly snowflake ass can't get over the fact, President Trump is a legitimate, dully elected President of the American people. He can twist the election all he wants. But DJT was elected in the manner prescribed by the Constitution of the USA, like it or not. And I have yet to see a severing of economic and social regimentation or forcible suppression of opposition. In fact to the contrary it is the DemSocialist Party of Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, Warren, Biden, Clinton and of course Obammy that have been, since Day 1 and his inauguration, that have been attempting to forcibly suppress their opposition with their constant and incessant degrading comments of the POTUS and his family, wasteful witch hunt investigations and constant obstruction of any efforts by President to move the country forward from the malaise, stagnation and corruption of the Obammy years. But I guess when the shoe is on the DemSocialist foot that's not Fascism, that's simply politics.

Yes, I would identify myself as a "Nationalist". I would identify Kev as a "Fascist" simply by his own statement of "Shut down fascism and nationalism." I'm proud to be a Nationalist, can he say the same of being a Fascist as demonstrated by his comments?

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Dec 4, 2018 09:34:02   #
bylm1-Bernie (a regular here)
 
smithdw55 wrote:
I'm with U Bernie. The young people of today have somehow twisted and warped the meaning of Fascism and clearly can't delineate nor understand the difference between it and Nationalism as President Trump has identified. However using a child's definition or version of the definition of Nationalism: "a feeling that people have of being loyal to and proud of their country often with the belief that it is better and more important than other countries" so it isn't to difficult for Kev to understand. I would like for him to describe to me the problem with being a Nationalist as an American.

We a are greater than most other country's simply stated. Beside the facts bare out that bottom line our country's economy is the basis for the world economy, it's growth and success, it all starts with the US $$$$.πŸ˜‰ Just answer this young Kev, what other country in the world has ever freed as many people as we have? What other country in the world has come to the aide of those in dire need as a result of natural disasters or internal strife as we do? What other country in the world has after defeating a nation that attacked and declared war on us, all but rebuilt that same nation? What other country in the world takes in as many immigrants providing them the possibility and hope of a life better than they could never possibly have in their motherland? What other country in the world has spent more of our treasure and young American lives, men/women to ensure that a person can sit safe and secure in the confines of their home and community and criticize and peacefully, and often violently, protest the very government that provides the freedom for them to to do so without fear of imprisonment or worse, when peaceful, no matter how stupid and ignorant they may sound to intelligent rational thinking people?

As for Fascism, todays young people are totally clueless. Although to be fair even in my youth "E.B. White wrote in The New Yorker in 1946 that the meaning of fascist had degenerated to the point where β€œa Fascist is a man who votes the other way.” This is obviously where we are still at today. But for young Kev, β€œit is a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.” The reality for Kev should be "centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader", I would remind Kev that although his silly snowflake ass can't get over the fact, President Trump is a legitimate, dully elected President of the American people. He can twist the election all he wants. But DJT was elected in the manner prescribed by the Constitution of the USA, like it or not. And I have yet to see a severing of economic and social regimentation or forcible suppression of opposition. In fact to the contrary it is the DemSocialist Party of Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, Warren, Biden, Clinton and of course Obammy that have been, since Day 1 and his inauguration, that have been attempting to forcibly suppress their opposition with their constant and incessant degrading comments of the POTUS and his family, wasteful witch hunt investigations and constant obstruction of any efforts by President to move the country forward from the malaise, stagnation and corruption of the Obammy years. But I guess when the shoe is on the DemSocialist foot that's not Fascism, that's simply politics.

Yes, I would identify myself as a "Nationalist". I would identify Kev as a "Fascist" simply by his own statement of "Shut down fascism and nationalism." I'm proud to be a Nationalist, can he say the same of being a Fascist as demonstrated by his comments?
I'm with U Bernie. The young people of today have... (show quote)




I'm not so sure Kev is young but I am sure he's a leftist. Both tend to gravitate to ad hominem attacks with very little reference to facts. I'm not sure of the definition of a troll but I believe he fits that description as well. I think we all have his pedigree so maybe we should just accept it for what it is and go on. I suspect he's not a bad guy to have a beer with and probably wouldn't be quite so impetuous one on one. Have a nice Christmas.

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Dec 4, 2018 10:50:39   #
Bad Bob (a regular here)
 
lindajoy wrote:
We get what we allow~~
Make these people accountable for their actions~ start charging them instead of resignations with full benefits.. Call for their ousting, recall, dereliction of duty. Etc...

Term limits have to be in place.. A must<~


We already have term limits, it's called an election every 2 or 4 years.

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Dec 4, 2018 10:52:31   #
Bad Bob (a regular here)
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I'm not so sure Kev is young but I am sure he's a leftist. Both tend to gravitate to ad hominem attacks with very little reference to facts. I'm not sure of the definition of a troll but I believe he fits that description as well. I think we all have his pedigree so maybe we should just accept it for what it is and go on. I suspect he's not a bad guy to have a beer with and probably wouldn't be quite so impetuous one on one. Have a nice Christmas.


Happy holidays

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Dec 4, 2018 13:18:39   #
proud republican (a regular here)
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Happy holidays


Merry Xmas!!!!

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Dec 4, 2018 13:26:11   #
Nickolai (a regular here)
 
smithdw55 wrote:
So, U R a pacifist? So let me get this right. U recognize and understand that sometime in the course of history and human events of mankind violence is necessary in order for mankind to continue to grow and move forward. U understand that the form of government which we in the USA live under is probably the greatest, most equitable and most successful form of government ever in the history of man. U fear loss of freedom more than U do death. But, "U would sooner lay down and die" than fight for that freedom if it meant being involved in violence. I'm sure U also understand that violence can take many forms and is not all physical right? So what this tells me about U is that U sir are a coward. In case U aren't familiar with the term coward, it dates back to the 13th century. It is a person who is contemptibly lacking in the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things. If I understand U correctly based on UR comments, U would stand by and watch UR fellow countrymen, assuming U R now a US Citizen, die in the streets while fighting for UR freedom, such as "freedom to practice UR chosen religion" rather than take up arms and stand with them for a cause which U admittedly identify as "the best form of government the world ever witnessed". This to me is beyond understanding. It fails all tests of our humanity. It removes one from the human race. U become merely another animal that reacts out of fear and runs from danger. We are not God. To attempt to act as him is foolish. We have but one life. To lay it down for nothing, to waste what God has given U that makes U different from the lowly animals. We are different and as U've admittedly stated violence is sometime necessary and has sometime been successful. UR view of none violence is seen as none violence only by those that agree with U. UR acts of cowardice is seen as a form of violence to those that are willing to stand against violence with equal violence when necessary, to take up arms if need be to fight where fighting is necessary to ensure that those less able will can experience the freedom our nation provides them. Please explain to me how UR laying down and willfully giving up UR life for nothing is not as violent as my act to fight to the death for mine.
So, U R a pacifist? So let me get this right. U r... (show quote)





There has been not one military service person who has died fighting to preserve our freedoms on American soil since 1814 yet since the end ofWW-ll yet approximately 5-6 million third world people have been killed by American troops and if one considers the people killed by proxy by their leaders the US has propped up to serve Wall Streets interest that number jumps to between 15-20 million; If only more of today's military personnel would realize that they are being used by the owning elite's as a publicly subsidized capitalist goon squad.
Smedley Butler Major Geeral US Marine Corp


The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.
Smedley Butler.

There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights.
Smedley Butler

I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long... Looking back on it, I feel I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three city districts. We Marines operated on three continents.
Smedley Butler

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Dec 4, 2018 13:33:11   #
Jakebrake (a regular here)
 
Bad Bob wrote:
We already have term limits, it's called an election every 2 or 4 years.


Which would work just fine if we had Voter ID.

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Dec 4, 2018 13:41:50   #
Bad Bob (a regular here)
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Which would work just fine if we had Voter ID.


What states are you bitching about?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States

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Dec 4, 2018 14:15:42   #
Nickolai (a regular here)
 
smithdw55 wrote:
I'm with U Bernie. The young people of today have somehow twisted and warped the meaning of Fascism and clearly can't delineate nor understand the difference between it and Nationalism as President Trump has identified. However using a child's definition or version of the definition of Nationalism: "a feeling that people have of being loyal to and proud of their country often with the belief that it is better and more important than other countries" so it isn't to difficult for Kev to understand. I would like for him to describe to me the problem with being a Nationalist as an American.

We a are greater than most other country's simply stated. Beside the facts bare out that bottom line our country's economy is the basis for the world economy, it's growth and success, it all starts with the US $$$$.πŸ˜‰ Just answer this young Kev, what other country in the world has ever freed as many people as we have? What other country in the world has come to the aide of those in dire need as a result of natural disasters or internal strife as we do? What other country in the world has after defeating a nation that attacked and declared war on us, all but rebuilt that same nation? What other country in the world takes in as many immigrants providing them the possibility and hope of a life better than they could never possibly have in their motherland? What other country in the world has spent more of our treasure and young American lives, men/women to ensure that a person can sit safe and secure in the confines of their home and community and criticize and peacefully, and often violently, protest the very government that provides the freedom for them to to do so without fear of imprisonment or worse, when peaceful, no matter how stupid and ignorant they may sound to intelligent rational thinking people?

As for Fascism, todays young people are totally clueless. Although to be fair even in my youth "E.B. White wrote in The New Yorker in 1946 that the meaning of fascist had degenerated to the point where β€œa Fascist is a man who votes the other way.” This is obviously where we are still at today. But for young Kev, β€œit is a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.” The reality for Kev should be "centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader", I would remind Kev that although his silly snowflake ass can't get over the fact, President Trump is a legitimate, dully elected President of the American people. He can twist the election all he wants. But DJT was elected in the manner prescribed by the Constitution of the USA, like it or not. And I have yet to see a severing of economic and social regimentation or forcible suppression of opposition. In fact to the contrary it is the DemSocialist Party of Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, Warren, Biden, Clinton and of course Obammy that have been, since Day 1 and his inauguration, that have been attempting to forcibly suppress their opposition with their constant and incessant degrading comments of the POTUS and his family, wasteful witch hunt investigations and constant obstruction of any efforts by President to move the country forward from the malaise, stagnation and corruption of the Obammy years. But I guess when the shoe is on the DemSocialist foot that's not Fascism, that's simply politics.

Yes, I would identify myself as a "Nationalist". I would identify Kev as a "Fascist" simply by his own statement of "Shut down fascism and nationalism." I'm proud to be a Nationalist, can he say the same of being a Fascist as demonstrated by his comments?
I'm with U Bernie. The young people of today have... (show quote)






WW-l was cause wholly by nationalism that continued in WW-ll with the added factor of fascism. The definition of fascism is the merger of government, big business, and religion.

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Dec 4, 2018 15:08:46   #
Crayons (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
WW-l was cause wholly by nationalism that continued in WW-ll with the added factor of fascism. The definition of fascism is the merger of government, big business, and religion.


Yeppers, It's a cocktail=Mix the home grown commie party leftist goobermint with corporate marxist fake stream media,
add in a gaggle of leftist churches who support the criminal south american illegal alien communista invasion of the U.S.
Than Shake and Stir.

Look no further than Jim Jones friends, Pelosilini and Sweinstein
https://www.independentsentinel.com/remember-jim-jones-pelosi-says-san-fran-values-are-what-were-about/

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Dec 4, 2018 16:09:27   #
Jakebrake (a regular here)
 
Crayons wrote:
Yeppers, It's a cocktail=Mix the home grown commie party leftist goobermint with corporate marxist fake stream media,
add in a gaggle of leftist churches who support the criminal south american illegal alien communista invasion of the U.S.
Than Shake and Stir.

Look no further than Jim Jones friends, Pelosilini and Sweinstein
https://www.independentsentinel.com/remember-jim-jones-pelosi-says-san-fran-values-are-what-were-about/


Going to be hard for the socialist democrats to refute this...

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Dec 4, 2018 17:01:51   #
EmilyD (a regular here)
 
Bad Bob wrote:


At the very least, these states (especially California, where a LOT of illegal aliens live):

No voter ID laws at all: California, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Wyoming, and Washington, D.C.

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Dec 4, 2018 17:16:56   #
Bad Bob (a regular here)
 
EmilyD wrote:
At the very least, these states (especially California, where a LOT of illegal aliens live):

No voter ID laws at all: California, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Wyoming, and Washington, D.C.


So what do you want to do about it? Other than bitch about other states?

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