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The story of William Tyndale - God's Outlaw
Dec 3, 2018 10:49:44   #
Rose42
 
Extraordinary man. A true soldier for Christ. Burned at the stake by the Catholic church.

The movie can be viewed online here - (it's probably on Netflix too)

https://archive.org/details/GodsOutlawWilliamTyndaleStoryFullMovie1986_20161211

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Dec 3, 2018 20:06:37   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Hi Rose,

Tyndale was truly a man who served both God and man; he printed the 1st New Testament in the English language.

A scholar fluent in eight languages, he remedied the problem that in his time, the Bible was available only in Latin, a language most people could not read. Wycliffe translated the Bible into English, using the Latin Vulgate as his source.

One hundred, fifty years after Wycliffe, both Luther and Tyndale began their reforms:

These men, like Wycliffe before them, believed that Scripture should be available to everyone.

Luther made a German translation of the Bible, and Tyndale, the New Testament into English, using Erasmus’s Greek and Hebrew texts as their source.

For his work on the English Bible, Tyndale drew the ire of the Anglican Church, the Roman Catholic Church, and other power hungy entities. The established churches taught that they alone were the conservators and interpreters of God’s Word and that the laity had no business reading it for themselves.

Tyndale worked tirelessly to make the Bible accessible to everyone, and is famous for saying, “I defy the Pope and all his laws. If God spare my life ere many years, I will cause the boy that drives the plow to know more of the scriptures than you!”

On October 6, 1536, Tyndale was led outside to a stake where he was strangled, then burned alive. His last words were reported to be “Lord, open the eyes of the King of England.”

God answered Tyndale’s dying prayer. By 1539 every parish in England was required to have a copy of the Bible in English and to make it available to every parishioner. Over the next seventy years, two million copies of the Bible were sold in England. When the translators of the King James Version produced their Bible in 1611, about 90 percent of the phrasing of the King James Version matched Tyndale’s Bible.

Tyndale’s legacy is the Bible he gave to the English-speaking people. His translation, the first in English to come directly from Hebrew and Greek texts, was also the first English translation to be mass-produced as a result of advances in the art of printing. Tyndale and others like him, who “did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death” (Revelation 12:11), helped pave the way for our being able to own and read the Bible today.

He was one of God's great heroes who received inspiration from the Holy Spirit, and acted upon it.


https://greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/william-tyndale.html
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Rose42 wrote:
Extraordinary man. A true soldier for Christ. Burned at the stake by the Catholic church.

The movie can be viewed online here - (it's probably on Netflix too)

https://archive.org/details/GodsOutlawWilliamTyndaleStoryFullMovie1986_20161211

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Dec 4, 2018 09:14:15   #
Rose42
 
Zemirah wrote:
Hi Rose,

Tyndale was truly a man who served both God and man; he printed the 1st New Testament in the English language.

A scholar fluent in eight languages, he remedied the problem that in his time, the Bible was available only in Latin, a language most people could not read. Wycliffe translated the Bible into English, using the Latin Vulgate as his source.

One hundred, fifty years after Wycliffe, both Luther and Tyndale began their reforms:

These men, like Wycliffe before them, believed that Scripture should be available to everyone.

Luther made a German translation of the Bible, and Tyndale, the New Testament into English, using Erasmus’s Greek and Hebrew texts as their source.

For his work on the English Bible, Tyndale drew the ire of the Anglican Church, the Roman Catholic Church, and other power hungy entities. The established churches taught that they alone were the conservators and interpreters of God’s Word and that the laity had no business reading it for themselves.

Tyndale worked tirelessly to make the Bible accessible to everyone, and is famous for saying, “I defy the Pope and all his laws. If God spare my life ere many years, I will cause the boy that drives the plow to know more of the scriptures than you!”

On October 6, 1536, Tyndale was led outside to a stake where he was strangled, then burned alive. His last words were reported to be “Lord, open the eyes of the King of England.”

God answered Tyndale’s dying prayer. By 1539 every parish in England was required to have a copy of the Bible in English and to make it available to every parishioner. Over the next seventy years, two million copies of the Bible were sold in England. When the translators of the King James Version produced their Bible in 1611, about 90 percent of the phrasing of the King James Version matched Tyndale’s Bible.

Tyndale’s legacy is the Bible he gave to the English-speaking people. His translation, the first in English to come directly from Hebrew and Greek texts, was also the first English translation to be mass-produced as a result of advances in the art of printing. Tyndale and others like him, who “did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death” (Revelation 12:11), helped pave the way for our being able to own and read the Bible today.

He was one of God's great heroes who received inspiration from the Holy Spirit, and acted upon it.


https://greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/william-tyndale.html
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Hi Rose, br br Tyndale was truly a man who served... (show quote)


I have to ask which "apostolic traditions" were responsible for the despotic decree that no one should be able to have their own Bible? Or read it themselves? Or recite verses?

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Dec 4, 2018 10:47:18   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
There could be none; No apostolic tradition, no Biblical command, and no angelic visitation.

The only possible reason is that the despots had wrested all legitimate control of the visible earthly church, from truly Godly men appointed to lead by the Holy Spirit.

These despots titled themselves with terms unknown to God's Word as: Pope, Cardinal, Archbishop, Monsignor, etc., and had long ago abandoned the Word of God and its gospel of Jesus Christ.

The Bible's instructions for church leaders had been abandoned, and the despots were desperately and ferociously attempting to insure that the general population of devout Christians would be kept in total spiritual darkness of their "demonic leaders" deceit and illegitimacy.

By torturing and burning at the stake any inspired Christian who attempted to expose them, they believed they could prevent the spread of any true Christianity which would recognize false Christendom and its Satanic quest for wealth and power.

They had ruled out the power of Almighty God and the continuing inspiration of the Holy Spirit upon those who believed upon Christ and His gospel.

That's just off the top of my head, Rose.


Rose42 wrote:
I have to ask which "apostolic traditions" were responsible for the despotic decree that no one should be able to have their own Bible? Or read it themselves? Or recite verses?

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Dec 4, 2018 10:58:30   #
Rose42
 
Zemirah wrote:
There could be none; No apostolic tradition, no Biblical command, and no angelic visitation.

The only possible reason is that the despots had wrested all legitimate control of the visible earthly church, from truly Godly men appointed to lead by the Holy Spirit.

These despots titled themselves with terms unknown to God's Word as: Pope, Cardinal, Archbishop, Monsignor, etc., and had long ago abandoned the Word of God and its gospel of Jesus Christ.

The Bible's instructions for church leaders had been abandoned, and the despots were desperately and ferociously attempting to insure that the general population of devout Christians would be kept in total spiritual darkness of their "demonic leaders" deceit and illegitimacy.

By torturing and burning at the stake any inspired Christian who attempted to expose them, they believed they could prevent the spread of any true Christianity which would recognize false Christendom and its Satanic quest for wealth and power.

They had ruled out the power of Almighty God and the continuing inspiration of the Holy Spirit upon those who believed upon Christ and His gospel.

That's just off the top of my head, Rose.
There could be none; No apostolic tradition, no Bi... (show quote)


Not bad for off the top of your head.

I wonder how they justify it today. For all the talk of it being the "one church" and how there is "unity" can they not see just how divisive this was? What utter arrogance for priests to think they are "authorized" and no one else is for interpreting the Bible. With its sordid history why do people believe Catholics are the ones Christ "authorized" to preach and teach when that goes against God's word? Most simply don't question it - I never did.

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Dec 4, 2018 11:26:18   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
I believe you got it, most simply don't know it goes against God's Word.

If you honestly believe only that arrogant, presumptuous invention of Catholicism called the Magisterium can truly accurately interpret the meaning of the Bible, then you fail to believe your obviously lying eyes when they tell you God's word actually teaches the opposite.

The "sordid" history of Catholicism isn't exactly hanging out there on a poster when you go to attend mass. You would have to be curious enough or concerned enough to seek it out, and would probably feel disloyal to "the church" in doing so.



Rose42 wrote:
Not bad for off the top of your head.

I wonder how they justify it today. For all the talk of it being the "one church" and how there is "unity" can they not see just how divisive this was? What utter arrogance for priests to think they are "authorized" and no one else is for interpreting the Bible. With its sordid history why do people believe Catholics are the ones Christ "authorized" to preach and teach when that goes against God's word? Most simply don't question it - I never did.
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Dec 4, 2018 11:31:52   #
Rose42
 
I forgot about the priest facing away from the congregation during mass and speaking Latin. How crazy is that? I barely remember it but I remember thinking there was no point in going to church because no one understood anything the priest was saying.

That didn't change until the 60s! Vatican II. If they truly cared about people's souls they would never have done any of this in the first place. It sometimes angers me that they deceive millions so easily.

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Dec 5, 2018 00:43:06   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
It leaves me befuddled that millions allow themselves to be deceived for a lifetime. Within Catholicism, historically, they have exercised very tight control over the Bible, allowing none but the clergy to possess it, and maintaining a Catholic School system that taught children at a very young age that only their church was allowed to interpret the Bible for them, and that Salvation is only through the church.

This was and is done because whenever man can read God's Word for themselves, conviction by the Holy Spirit, of our sin, will result, and we will be drawn to personal repentance, and belief in Jesus Christ.

As children, we are in the custody of our parents and attend their church of choice, whereas, as adults in a still free country, we can investigate a matter of such supreme importance as our eternal destiny for ourselves.

We are not locked into our family's church of record or belief system; Although I came to my Lord, Jesus Christ, as a young child at a public worship service altar call, on my own volition, without even informing my parents that I was about to do so, I spent years as a young adult investigating, studying and examining the historic life and beliefs of many religion's founders, their ancestry, education, stated goals and ambitions, especially their intended purpose for their followers...

In every other religion, including Roman Catholicism, man is on his own.

He must attempt to work his way to God. He must achieve his own salvation through his own merits.

He must climb the mythical ladder and ascend up the multi-rungs to Paradise.

It is only through the Christ of Christianity that "whomsoever will, may come," for "Salvation is the free gift of God."

For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.…
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him." (John 3:15-17)


God's Word Brings Salvation.

"...Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
How then can they call on the One in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in the One of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach?
And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” (Romans 10:13-15)



Rose42 wrote:
I forgot about the priest facing away from the congregation during mass and speaking Latin. How crazy is that? I barely remember it but I remember thinking there was no point in going to church because no one understood anything the priest was saying.

That didn't change until the 60s! Vatican II. If they truly cared about people's souls they would never have done any of this in the first place. It sometimes angers me that they deceive millions so easily.

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