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Dec 3, 2018 18:54:15   #
Bcon
 
PeterS wrote:
Careful Pennylynn, Trump doesn't have the rubber stamp that he had before and his new NAFTA agreement, as Washington trade attorney Josh Zives said: “It’s going to be a heck of a fight. This is a difficult issue that does not break cleanly along party lines. It’s a free trade agreement but its less free trade than the existing agreement. There are so many variables in motion, anyone trying to make a prediction, it’s rank speculation at this point.”

And the Chinese are much better at negotiating that are the Canadians and the Mexicans and they got more concessions from Trump than they gave up so I wouldn't be jumping up and down and doing high fives just yet. And it's the tariffs that are still in place that are k*****g American businesses so until Trump gets his act together and lifts those the only thing to celebrate are how many farms Trump will have to bail out this year.

It may be a tough or even losing proposition, but at leadt Trump has the gumption to go after China for its unfair trade policies. I didn’t see any any former presidents even attempt to call out China. Obama wouldn’t even think of it.

I give Trump all the credit in the world for his attempts to make an even playing field it his part of his plan to MAGA.



Cried Uncle indeed...
Careful Pennylynn, Trump doesn't have the rubber s... (show quote)

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Dec 3, 2018 18:56:07   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Hadenough wrote:
Yes, I know that, it refers to federal tax. President Trump can’t control the list of state taxes mixed in with your post.
Which POS are you referring to in the dem party, the party of taxation. Look at Mexifornia, NY or any other dem run state. I guess your halfrican and previous leaders had nothing to do with it.
Lose your h**e and see reality, I can’t understand why the dems don’t like success.

MAGA



wish to know... what do you think is more harmful, Tax and spend, which is a pay as you go policy.

Or spend what you want, charge the credit card and let the future Americans pay the bill??

You must still be angry the President Obama had to pay for the republican wars and deeds during the Bush Jr. terms..

While you will never in your life stop blaming the Democrats for spending. It is not true.. the pile of money is the product of the GOP..

Do not believe me?? Have a look at what the orange defecation has done in less then 2 years in the white house..



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Dec 3, 2018 19:02:49   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
old marine wrote:
Strange how a bad buisness man making bad decessions that their losses prevent him from paying income taxes, yet he became A MULTIPLE BILLIONAIRE




BS,, that is probable a lie.. he has often lied about how rich he is..

But the real point is that in his life time he has honestly lost money..

If he had sat on his fat *** and put the money his father gave him into an indexed account, he would be richer today than he is..

Also think about this question,, how can even a lame brain lose money owning a casino?????



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Dec 3, 2018 19:03:36   #
Hadenough
 
PeterS wrote:
How did Trump try to get tax reform through? And how much should a retiree making 1,200 a month pay in taxes? Or a two income family with kids making 32K a year? That's almost two-thirds of the demographic you are talking about. And what you don't seem to understand is that we do pay taxes based on our income. That's why 44% of the people in this country don't pay any income tax...they simply don't make enough income or as with Donald Trump they are such bad businessmen that they that their losses prevent them from paying any income tax.
How did Trump try to get tax reform through? And h... (show quote)


The President was pushing for a flat tax based on income and making filing less troublesome. Do you ever think why 44% don’t pay taxes, maybe because we have so many people on government assistance. Your halfrican added how many people to the food stamp program instead of creating jobs. President Trump did not create this problem, he is trying to eliminate it by creating jobs and stimulating the economy.
Renegotiating unfair trade agreements that have taken jobs from the US.
Dems would rather have people depended on government, when you have that you have control of the people.
Hence the likes of sanders, occasio-cortez and beto, give things away and people will follow you. Prime example is the caravan from Central America, they aren’t coming here for the love of our country, but for the love of the freebies.
MAGA

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Dec 3, 2018 19:13:08   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Some food for thought. In the Clinton administration, the average level of spending was 1.7 percent higher when Democrats controlled Congress than after the Republican takeover in 1994. This pattern repeated with a vengeance under the Bush administration: average annual spending was 7.9 percent higher during the last two years that Democrats controlled Congress compared to the six preceding years in which Republicans had v****g majorities in both chambers. Under President Obama, average spending in his first two years was 3.3 percent higher than when Republicans took over the House following the e******n sweep of 2010. We will need to wait and see if this trend continues under President Trump. I do not like to blame the President, regardless of party, even though they set the tone. It is obvious that the President is not entirely in control of spending.

In my opinion, we need to rehash past figures from multiple presidencies to figure out how much Obama's spending can be attributed to the recession and/or how much of his first-year spending “really” was the responsibility of President George W. Bush. The reality is that President Obama inherited a high level of federal spending that was without historical precedent. And even though we can likewise quibble about how much of the subsequent drop in spending can be credited to President Obama as opposed to a Republican House, the fact is that absent pushback from Congress, the Obama increased inflation-adjusted federal spending by at least $1,500 per person between 2012 and 2016.



permafrost wrote:
wish to know... what do you think is more harmful, Tax and spend, which is a pay as you go policy.

Or spend what you want, charge the credit card and let the future Americans pay the bill??

You must still be angry the President Obama had to pay for the republican wars and deeds during the Bush Jr. terms..

While you will never in your life stop blaming the Democrats for spending. It is not true.. the pile of money is the product of the GOP..

Do not believe me?? Have a look at what the orange defecation has done in less then 2 years in the white house..
wish to know... what do you think is more harmful,... (show quote)

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Dec 3, 2018 19:15:20   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
It's true Sici. All con men rely on their followers being stupid. Trump isn't the brightest individual ever to run for office but he sure as hell knows conservatives. That and a little bit of luck is all it took for him to be the president of the United States...


More projection from an Obamaite. Barak Hussein Obama, mmm, mmmm, mmm. Remember little children reciting that ? Talk about a personality cult. There are websites dev**ed to the worship of Barak the Obama. I was even in a public library today, and you know the fattest book on the shelves was a book on the rise of the Obama. Over 1450 pages of fawning over a failed President. Even books on Napoleon and George Washington were not near as thick.

You Obama lovers are the ones who were conned.

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Dec 3, 2018 19:19:17   #
Hadenough
 
permafrost wrote:
wish to know... what do you think is more harmful, Tax and spend, which is a pay as you go policy.

Or spend what you want, charge the credit card and let the future Americans pay the bill??

You must still be angry the President Obama had to pay for the republican wars and deeds during the Bush Jr. terms..

While you will never in your life stop blaming the Democrats for spending. It is not true.. the pile of money is the product of the GOP..

Do not believe me?? Have a look at what the orange defecation has done in less then 2 years in the white house..
wish to know... what do you think is more harmful,... (show quote)


Perm,

I used to think like a dem, in fact I was one. As I got older I looked back on how hard I worked to support my family, two jobs working 67 hours a week and going to school on my GI bill and being taxed heavily. With age came wisdom and I realized if I could do it why should I support a bunch of lazy people.
I don’t have a problem paying taxes for the protection of my country and rights, I have a problem with paying taxes and my money going to wasteful programs and i******s. The halfrican sent how much money to Iran, a country that shouts “death to America”, now that makes me angry! Do you like it?

MAGA

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Dec 3, 2018 19:51:04   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
More projection from an Obamaite. Barak Hussein Obama, mmm, mmmm, mmm. Remember little children reciting that ? Talk about a personality cult. There are websites dev**ed to the worship of Barak the Obama. I was even in a public library today, and you know the fattest book on the shelves was a book on the rise of the Obama. Over 1450 pages of fawning over a failed President. Even books on Napoleon and George Washington were not near as thick.

You Obama lovers are the ones who were conned.





WHAT????? Where in the world do you get such stupid things to say??? Did Hannity tell you to say such foolishness??

An Obama cult??? Lordy lordy, even the most radical of right wing twits should no better then try a spread such silliness..



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Dec 3, 2018 19:57:37   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Hadenough wrote:
Perm,

I used to think like a dem, in fact I was one. As I got older I looked back on how hard I worked to support my family, two jobs working 67 hours a week and going to school on my GI bill and being taxed heavily. With age came wisdom and I realized if I could do it why should I support a bunch of lazy people.
I don’t have a problem paying taxes for the protection of my country and rights, I have a problem with paying taxes and my money going to wasteful programs and i******s. The halfrican sent how much money to Iran, a country that shouts “death to America”, now that makes me angry! Do you like it?

MAGA
Perm, br br I used to think like a dem, in fact I... (show quote)




What is this, stupid night at the right wing lie party??

Our taxes now days are paying for past credit card spending for wars and etc.

The money spent on I******s and wasteful programs is only a fraction of what you think.. the cost of DOD and mostly funding to big business and Interest is what drives the debt higher and higher with no intent to stop..

For about the 1`000th time, No one, not President Obama nor any group sent American money to Iran for any purpose..

YOu have been told many times, it is time to show your hand to stop the talk..



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Dec 3, 2018 19:59:13   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
wish to know... what do you think is more harmful, Tax and spend, which is a pay as you go policy.

Or spend what you want, charge the credit card and let the future Americans pay the bill??

You must still be angry the President Obama had to pay for the republican wars and deeds during the Bush Jr. terms..

While you will never in your life stop blaming the Democrats for spending. It is not true.. the pile of money is the product of the GOP..

Do not believe me?? Have a look at what the orange defecation has done in less then 2 years in the white house..
wish to know... what do you think is more harmful,... (show quote)
permafrost, you continue to amaze. That meme is hilarious. Thank you!

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Dec 3, 2018 20:04:05   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Some food for thought. In the Clinton administration, the average level of spending was 1.7 percent higher when Democrats controlled Congress than after the Republican takeover in 1994. This pattern repeated with a vengeance under the Bush administration: average annual spending was 7.9 percent higher during the last two years that Democrats controlled Congress compared to the six preceding years in which Republicans had v****g majorities in both chambers. Under President Obama, average spending in his first two years was 3.3 percent higher than when Republicans took over the House following the e******n sweep of 2010. We will need to wait and see if this trend continues under President Trump. I do not like to blame the President, regardless of party, even though they set the tone. It is obvious that the President is not entirely in control of spending.

In my opinion, we need to rehash past figures from multiple presidencies to figure out how much Obama's spending can be attributed to the recession and/or how much of his first-year spending “really” was the responsibility of President George W. Bush. The reality is that President Obama inherited a high level of federal spending that was without historical precedent. And even though we can likewise quibble about how much of the subsequent drop in spending can be credited to President Obama as opposed to a Republican House, the fact is that absent pushback from Congress, the Obama increased inflation-adjusted federal spending by at least $1,500 per person between 2012 and 2016.
Some food for thought. In the Clinton administrat... (show quote)




I can not find a good, (or any) source for this information about which party spent what.. articles about budget are easily found, but as to which party controlled the spending is a nada..

I may have alook at anything you have. but for now, I am ending todays ration of OPP...

Have a good night... tomorrow..

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Dec 3, 2018 20:09:29   #
Hadenough
 
permafrost wrote:
What is this, stupid night at the right wing lie party??

Our taxes now days are paying for past credit card spending for wars and etc.

The money spent on I******s and wasteful programs is only a fraction of what you think.. the cost of DOD and mostly funding to big business and Interest is what drives the debt higher and higher with no intent to stop..

For about the 1`000th time, No one, not President Obama nor any group sent American money to Iran for any purpose..

YOu have been told many times, it is time to show your hand to stop the talk..
What is this, stupid night at the right wing lie p... (show quote)


Nope it’s pull your head out for the left libs and you’re chairing it!
Watch out for thin ice, not!
Perm for President, he knows everything and can find his way around anything, 5D mode to the max.

Tick Tock Tick Tock TDS BOOM
MAGA

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Dec 3, 2018 20:16:36   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Try Forbes and the Bureau of Economic Analysis..... those are my primary sources for information. I don't think there are many article on the net about party spending, you will need to crunch the numbers to get a good picture. My procedure was simple, I went to the BEA for basic numbers and Forbes for inflation, I then look up the President and who held Congress by year.... then it was a simple number crunch.

permafrost wrote:
I can not find a good, (or any) source for this information about which party spent what.. articles about budget are easily found, but as to which party controlled the spending is a nada..

I may have alook at anything you have. but for now, I am ending todays ration of OPP...

Have a good night... tomorrow..

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Dec 3, 2018 22:34:04   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Pennylynn wrote:
It is a fact, Democrats will fight tooth and nail to maintain the status quo established by obama.
It is sad, but President Trump does not really care what the 'elected' democrats try... He is looking after the citizens of the US. Years from now, he will be studied and he just may be rated in the top 5 of the best presidents of all time simply because he forged ahead against great odds and pulled us up to become a respected nation once again. So, this is a baby step with blood, sweat, and tears to come as he battle nitwits.... but, in the end, he will succeed.

Keep the faith.



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Dec 3, 2018 22:35:55   #
Sicilianthing
 
kemmer wrote:
Trump is walking on eggshells because the noose is tightening around his neck and he knows it.


>>>

If anything happens to Trump there will be Civil War, so be careful what you wish for.

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