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This Weekend's Catholic Church Sainthood Procedure Contradicts the Bible Teaching that All Jesus's Living Followers are Saints
Apr 26, 2014 22:26:27   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
This Weekend's Catholic Church Sainthood Procedure Contradicts
the Bible Teaching that All Jesus's Living Followers are Saints

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VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis on Sunday formally recognizes the sainthood of two of his predecessors, John XXIII, who reigned from 1958 to 1963, and John Paul II, who was pontiff from 1978 to 2005.


The canonization of dead saints, unknown and unnecessary throughout the Bible, was first ordered by Pope John XV in 995 A.D.

Below is a sampling of the innumerable occasions throughout the New Testament when the living members of Christ's churches are called saints:

Romans 16:15: "Greet Philologus and Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints who are with them."

1 Corinthians 1:2: "To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:"

1 Corinthians 14:33: "for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints."

1 Corinthians 16:1: "Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I directed the churches of Galatia, so do you also."

2 Corinthians 1:1: "Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God which is at Corinth with all the saints who are throughout Achaia:"

2 Corinthians 8:4: "begging us with much urging for the favor of participation in the support of the saints,"

2 Corinthians 9:1: "For it is superfluous for me to write to you about this ministry to the saints;"

2 Corinthians 9:12: "For the ministry of this service is not only fully supplying the needs of the saints, but is also overflowing through many thanksgivings to God."

Ephesians 1:1: "Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are at Ephesus and who are faithful in Christ Jesus:"

Ephesians 1:15: "For this reason I too, having heard of the faith in the Lord Jesus which exists among you and your love for all the saints,"

Ephesians 3:8: "To me, the very least of all saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unfathomable riches of Christ,"

Ephesians 3:18: "may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth,"

Ephesians 4:12: "for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ;"

Ephesians 5:3: "But immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints;"

Philippi 1:1: "Paul and Timothy, bond-servants of Christ Jesus, To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, including the overseers and deacons:"

Philippi 4:22: "All the saints greet you, especially those of Caesar's household."

Colossians 1:2: "To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ who are at Colossae: Grace to you and peace from God our Father."

Hebrews 13:24: "Greet all of your leaders and all the saints. Those from Italy greet you."

Jude 1:3: "Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints."

The Catholic Church is claiming power that the Bible - God's Word simply does not grant it.

God sees the heart of all professed believers in Jesus, and has already pronounced that all sincere living members of the universal Body of Christ are "saints."

http://news.yahoo.com/brief-guide-catholic-churchs-sainthood-procedure-130411576.html

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A brief guide to the Catholic Church's sainthood procedure


Here is a brief summary of how the Roman Catholic Church recognizes sainthood.

The process that can lead to sainthood, known as a "cause", cannot usually start until five years after a person's death.

In some cases, this five-year waiting period can be waived by a pope if there is overwhelming evidence that the person under consideration lived a holy life.

Pope John Paul waived the five-year period for Mother Teresa of Calcutta, who died in 1997, and Pope Benedict waived it for the sainthood cause of Pope John Paul, who died in 2005.

In the early years of the Church, a saint could be declared such by acclamation by the people or by cardinals or by papal decree.

Today, the Vatican department that studies sainthood causes is known as the Congregation for the Causes of Saints. Its origins date back to 1588 but the department has been modified several times over the years.

After the Congregation accepts the name of a person to be considered for sainthood, that person is given the title "Servant of God".

If initial investigations show that the candidate for sainthood lived what is known as a life of "heroic virtues" that person is given the title "Venerable".

Historical and theological commissions in the Congregation study the person's life, read his or her writings and interview people who knew the person.

At this point, in order for the procedure to continue, a miracle is needed.

Miracles are not performed by prospective saints but by God. The Church believes that, because a prospective saint is in heaven, he or she can intercede with God to perform the miracle on someone on earth who has prayed to the prospective saint.

A miracle is usually a medically inexplicable healing. A medical commission appointed by the Vatican determines if there was any medical explanation for the healing or not.

Miracles are not necessary if a person was a martyr, someone k**led in what the Church calls "hatred of the faith".

If a miracle is determined for those who were not martyrs, the person can be "beatified" and is given the title "Blessed".

John XXIII was beatified in 2000 and John Paul was beatified in 2011.

A second, distinct miracle must take place after the beatification in order to proceed to sainthood.
A brief guide to the Catholic Church's sainthood p... (show quote)


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These are the traditions of men. They have no spiritual value.

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Apr 26, 2014 23:00:45   #
Brian Devon
 
Zemirah wrote:
This Weekend's Catholic Church Sainthood Procedure Contradicts
the Bible Teaching that All Jesus's Living Followers are Saints



Read More: http://news.yahoo.com/brief-guide-catholic-churchs-sainthood-procedure-130411576.html

These are the traditions of men. They have no spiritual value.




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The great monotheistic faiths, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all have their books with their fables and fairy tales. I don't really think the Catholic ones are better or worse than any others. If it gives them comfort to believe in saints, it really should make no difference to the rest of us. It certainly is not of importance, one way or the other, to me.

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Apr 26, 2014 23:43:15   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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The great monotheistic faiths, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all have their books with their fables and fairy tales. I don't really think the Catholic ones are better or worse than any others. If it gives them comfort to believe in saints, it really should make no difference to the rest of us. It certainly is not of importance, one way or the other, to me.


Brian, I thought upon posting this topic, "This is really going to deeply affect Brian, because of his great spiritual depth."

Thank you for your assurance, - based on your own understanding, that it's all good.

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