ByBen Shapiro
@benshapiro
October 12, 2018
446.7k views
On Friday, The Washington Post ran what could easily rank as the single looniest op-d they’ve ever run: a piece from Victoria Bissell Brown, retired history professor at Grinnell College, arguing that men are incapable of being good, even if they oppose sexism. Men are, by nature, vile and terrible, and can’t fix anything by listening to women – instead, they must change from within. Sadly, though, they’re not capable of such change, which begs the question: what the hell are men supposed to do, aside from die?
Brown begins by talking about screaming at her husband. Really.
I yelled at my husband last night. Not pick-up-your-socks yell. Not how-could-you-ignore-that-red-light yell. This was real yelling. This was 30 minutes of from-the-gut yelling. Triggered by a small, thoughtless, dismissive, annoyed, patronizing comment. Really small. A micro-wave that triggered a hurricane. I blew. Hard and fast. And it terrified me. I’m still terrified by what I felt and what I said. I am almost 70 years old. I am a grandmother. Yet in that roiling moment, screaming at my husband as if he represented every clueless male on the planet (and I every angry woman of 2018), I announced that I h**e all men and wish all men were dead. If one of my grandchildren yelled something that ridiculous, I’d have to stifle a laugh.
But she didn’t stifle a laugh. Instead, she doubles down in the pages of The Washington Post. It turns out that her bats*** loonyness isn’t actually bats*** loonyness: screaming at her husband is well-founded. Why? Because he’s a male. Even a male who will sit there letting her scream at him.
My husband of 50 years did not have to stifle a laugh. He took it dead seriously. He did not defend his remark, he did not defend men. He sat, hunched and hurt, and he listened. For a moment, it occurred to me to be grateful that I’m married to a man who will listen to a woman. The winds calmed ever so slightly in that moment. And then the storm surge welled up in me as I realized the pathetic impotence of nice men’s plan to rebuild the wreckage by listening to women. As my rage rushed through the streets of my mind, toppling every memory of every good thing my husband has ever done (and there are scores of memories), I said the meanest thing I’ve ever said to him: Don’t you dare sit there and sympathetically promise to change. Don’t say you will stop yourself before you blurt out some impatient, annoyed, controlling remark. No, I said, you can’t change. You are unable to change. You don’t have the sk**ls and you won’t do it. You, I said, are one of the good men. You respect women, you believe in women, you like women, you don’t hit women or rape women or in any way abuse women. You have applauded and funded feminism for a half-century. You are one of the good men. And you cannot change. You can listen all you want, but that will not create one iota of change.
So, he’s listening to her. He’s sympathizing. He’s asking what he can do. And her answer is: nothing. And shut up. But listen. But, actually, don’t listen, because your listening means nothing. But do something. But you can’t.
All righty, then.
Here’s her recommendation for men:
In the centuries of feminist movements that have washed up and away, good men have not once organized their own mass movement to change themselves and their sons or to attack the mean-spirited, teasing, punching thing that passes for male culture. Not once. Bastards. Don’t listen to me. Listen to each other. Talk to each other. Earn your power for once.
Really? Not once have men organized a movement to curb male aggression? What does she think Western civilization is? What does she think religious education is? What does she think law enforcement is? What does she think marriage is? What does she think institutions dev**ed to the inculcation of virtue are? If men haven’t restricted men, and women can’t restrict men, why are women safer, freer and more prosperous in the West than anywhere, anytime in world history? She’s a history professor – shouldn’t she know this?
But apparently she doesn’t. Because women are all victims:
The g****r war that has broken out in this country is flooding all our houses. It’s rising on the torrent of memories that every woman has. Those memories have come loose from the attic and the basement where we’ve stashed them. They are floating all around us and there is no place left to store them out of sight…No man right now understands the flood that is rushing through women’s brains, and only women in the deepest denial have evacuated their minds before the flood could reach them.
This is pure sexual identity politics. Men can’t understand women, because men aren’t women. Which means they can’t do anything, because they can’t understand. PRIMAL RAGE SCREAM!!!!!
In fact, she argues that even saying you’ll listen to women is an insult:
When good men like Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.) give heartfelt, sincere speeches about how we must listen to women, I don’t know whether to coo or laugh or cry or yell. Think about “listen to women” as a program for change. It says to women: You will continue to suffer these abuses, men will continue to do d********g things to you, the storms will keep coming, the tide will continue to rise, but now, we will listen and help you rebuild. Pay attention people: If we do not raise boys to walk humbly and care deeply, if we do not demand that men do more than just listen, we will all drown in the flood. And there is no patriarchal Noah to save us.
There is not one shred of reason in this op-ed. But reason isn’t the point. Rage is. And rage at good men isn’t a solution. It’s a huge part of the problem.
Frightening insight into the type of woman that "progressives" honor. Scary isn't it?
SWMBO
no propaganda please wrote:
ByBen Shapiro
@benshapiro
October 12, 2018
446.7k views
On Friday, The Washington Post ran what could easily rank as the single looniest op-d they’ve ever run: a piece from Victoria Bissell Brown, retired history professor at Grinnell College, arguing that men are incapable of being good, even if they oppose sexism. Men are, by nature, vile and terrible, and can’t fix anything by listening to women – instead, they must change from within. Sadly, though, they’re not capable of such change, which begs the question: what the hell are men supposed to do, aside from die?
Brown begins by talking about screaming at her husband. Really.
I yelled at my husband last night. Not pick-up-your-socks yell. Not how-could-you-ignore-that-red-light yell. This was real yelling. This was 30 minutes of from-the-gut yelling. Triggered by a small, thoughtless, dismissive, annoyed, patronizing comment. Really small. A micro-wave that triggered a hurricane. I blew. Hard and fast. And it terrified me. I’m still terrified by what I felt and what I said. I am almost 70 years old. I am a grandmother. Yet in that roiling moment, screaming at my husband as if he represented every clueless male on the planet (and I every angry woman of 2018), I announced that I h**e all men and wish all men were dead. If one of my grandchildren yelled something that ridiculous, I’d have to stifle a laugh.
But she didn’t stifle a laugh. Instead, she doubles down in the pages of The Washington Post. It turns out that her bats*** loonyness isn’t actually bats*** loonyness: screaming at her husband is well-founded. Why? Because he’s a male. Even a male who will sit there letting her scream at him.
My husband of 50 years did not have to stifle a laugh. He took it dead seriously. He did not defend his remark, he did not defend men. He sat, hunched and hurt, and he listened. For a moment, it occurred to me to be grateful that I’m married to a man who will listen to a woman. The winds calmed ever so slightly in that moment. And then the storm surge welled up in me as I realized the pathetic impotence of nice men’s plan to rebuild the wreckage by listening to women. As my rage rushed through the streets of my mind, toppling every memory of every good thing my husband has ever done (and there are scores of memories), I said the meanest thing I’ve ever said to him: Don’t you dare sit there and sympathetically promise to change. Don’t say you will stop yourself before you blurt out some impatient, annoyed, controlling remark. No, I said, you can’t change. You are unable to change. You don’t have the sk**ls and you won’t do it. You, I said, are one of the good men. You respect women, you believe in women, you like women, you don’t hit women or rape women or in any way abuse women. You have applauded and funded feminism for a half-century. You are one of the good men. And you cannot change. You can listen all you want, but that will not create one iota of change.
So, he’s listening to her. He’s sympathizing. He’s asking what he can do. And her answer is: nothing. And shut up. But listen. But, actually, don’t listen, because your listening means nothing. But do something. But you can’t.
All righty, then.
Here’s her recommendation for men:
In the centuries of feminist movements that have washed up and away, good men have not once organized their own mass movement to change themselves and their sons or to attack the mean-spirited, teasing, punching thing that passes for male culture. Not once. Bastards. Don’t listen to me. Listen to each other. Talk to each other. Earn your power for once.
Really? Not once have men organized a movement to curb male aggression? What does she think Western civilization is? What does she think religious education is? What does she think law enforcement is? What does she think marriage is? What does she think institutions dev**ed to the inculcation of virtue are? If men haven’t restricted men, and women can’t restrict men, why are women safer, freer and more prosperous in the West than anywhere, anytime in world history? She’s a history professor – shouldn’t she know this?
But apparently she doesn’t. Because women are all victims:
The g****r war that has broken out in this country is flooding all our houses. It’s rising on the torrent of memories that every woman has. Those memories have come loose from the attic and the basement where we’ve stashed them. They are floating all around us and there is no place left to store them out of sight…No man right now understands the flood that is rushing through women’s brains, and only women in the deepest denial have evacuated their minds before the flood could reach them.
This is pure sexual identity politics. Men can’t understand women, because men aren’t women. Which means they can’t do anything, because they can’t understand. PRIMAL RAGE SCREAM!!!!!
In fact, she argues that even saying you’ll listen to women is an insult:
When good men like Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.) give heartfelt, sincere speeches about how we must listen to women, I don’t know whether to coo or laugh or cry or yell. Think about “listen to women” as a program for change. It says to women: You will continue to suffer these abuses, men will continue to do d********g things to you, the storms will keep coming, the tide will continue to rise, but now, we will listen and help you rebuild. Pay attention people: If we do not raise boys to walk humbly and care deeply, if we do not demand that men do more than just listen, we will all drown in the flood. And there is no patriarchal Noah to save us.
There is not one shred of reason in this op-ed. But reason isn’t the point. Rage is. And rage at good men isn’t a solution. It’s a huge part of the problem.
Frightening insight into the type of woman that "progressives" honor. Scary isn't it?
SWMBO
ByBen Shapiro br @benshapiro br October 12, 2018 b... (
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I've known some GREAT men in my life, my husband being one of them, I'm sure that there are a few bad ones out there but, any woman who doesn't appreciate our average, everyday, good American man is a complete i***t.
no propaganda please wrote:
ByBen Shapiro
@benshapiro
October 12, 2018
446.7k views
On Friday, The Washington Post ran what could easily rank as the single looniest op-d they’ve ever run: a piece from Victoria Bissell Brown, retired history professor at Grinnell College, arguing that men are incapable of being good, even if they oppose sexism. Men are, by nature, vile and terrible, and can’t fix anything by listening to women – instead, they must change from within. Sadly, though, they’re not capable of such change, which begs the question: what the hell are men supposed to do, aside from die?
Brown begins by talking about screaming at her husband. Really.
I yelled at my husband last night. Not pick-up-your-socks yell. Not how-could-you-ignore-that-red-light yell. This was real yelling. This was 30 minutes of from-the-gut yelling. Triggered by a small, thoughtless, dismissive, annoyed, patronizing comment. Really small. A micro-wave that triggered a hurricane. I blew. Hard and fast. And it terrified me. I’m still terrified by what I felt and what I said. I am almost 70 years old. I am a grandmother. Yet in that roiling moment, screaming at my husband as if he represented every clueless male on the planet (and I every angry woman of 2018), I announced that I h**e all men and wish all men were dead. If one of my grandchildren yelled something that ridiculous, I’d have to stifle a laugh.
But she didn’t stifle a laugh. Instead, she doubles down in the pages of The Washington Post. It turns out that her bats*** loonyness isn’t actually bats*** loonyness: screaming at her husband is well-founded. Why? Because he’s a male. Even a male who will sit there letting her scream at him.
My husband of 50 years did not have to stifle a laugh. He took it dead seriously. He did not defend his remark, he did not defend men. He sat, hunched and hurt, and he listened. For a moment, it occurred to me to be grateful that I’m married to a man who will listen to a woman. The winds calmed ever so slightly in that moment. And then the storm surge welled up in me as I realized the pathetic impotence of nice men’s plan to rebuild the wreckage by listening to women. As my rage rushed through the streets of my mind, toppling every memory of every good thing my husband has ever done (and there are scores of memories), I said the meanest thing I’ve ever said to him: Don’t you dare sit there and sympathetically promise to change. Don’t say you will stop yourself before you blurt out some impatient, annoyed, controlling remark. No, I said, you can’t change. You are unable to change. You don’t have the sk**ls and you won’t do it. You, I said, are one of the good men. You respect women, you believe in women, you like women, you don’t hit women or rape women or in any way abuse women. You have applauded and funded feminism for a half-century. You are one of the good men. And you cannot change. You can listen all you want, but that will not create one iota of change.
So, he’s listening to her. He’s sympathizing. He’s asking what he can do. And her answer is: nothing. And shut up. But listen. But, actually, don’t listen, because your listening means nothing. But do something. But you can’t.
All righty, then.
Here’s her recommendation for men:
In the centuries of feminist movements that have washed up and away, good men have not once organized their own mass movement to change themselves and their sons or to attack the mean-spirited, teasing, punching thing that passes for male culture. Not once. Bastards. Don’t listen to me. Listen to each other. Talk to each other. Earn your power for once.
Really? Not once have men organized a movement to curb male aggression? What does she think Western civilization is? What does she think religious education is? What does she think law enforcement is? What does she think marriage is? What does she think institutions dev**ed to the inculcation of virtue are? If men haven’t restricted men, and women can’t restrict men, why are women safer, freer and more prosperous in the West than anywhere, anytime in world history? She’s a history professor – shouldn’t she know this?
But apparently she doesn’t. Because women are all victims:
The g****r war that has broken out in this country is flooding all our houses. It’s rising on the torrent of memories that every woman has. Those memories have come loose from the attic and the basement where we’ve stashed them. They are floating all around us and there is no place left to store them out of sight…No man right now understands the flood that is rushing through women’s brains, and only women in the deepest denial have evacuated their minds before the flood could reach them.
This is pure sexual identity politics. Men can’t understand women, because men aren’t women. Which means they can’t do anything, because they can’t understand. PRIMAL RAGE SCREAM!!!!!
In fact, she argues that even saying you’ll listen to women is an insult:
When good men like Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.) give heartfelt, sincere speeches about how we must listen to women, I don’t know whether to coo or laugh or cry or yell. Think about “listen to women” as a program for change. It says to women: You will continue to suffer these abuses, men will continue to do d********g things to you, the storms will keep coming, the tide will continue to rise, but now, we will listen and help you rebuild. Pay attention people: If we do not raise boys to walk humbly and care deeply, if we do not demand that men do more than just listen, we will all drown in the flood. And there is no patriarchal Noah to save us.
There is not one shred of reason in this op-ed. But reason isn’t the point. Rage is. And rage at good men isn’t a solution. It’s a huge part of the problem.
Frightening insight into the type of woman that "progressives" honor. Scary isn't it?
SWMBO
ByBen Shapiro br @benshapiro br October 12, 2018 b... (
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Good reason to put virtually all women on the pay-no-mind list. That "Reverse Polish" logic requires too much effort to follow much less do anything about. I'm gonna go join BadBobby on his fishing trips.
pafret wrote:
Good reason to put virtually all women on the pay-no-mind list. That "Reverse Polish" logic requires too much effort to follow much less do anything about. I'm gonna go join BadBobby on his fishing trips.
Many women who are very conservative, like me, to not wish to be on the ignore lit, as we have much to say that is of value.
SWMBO wife of NPP
no propaganda please wrote:
ByBen Shapiro
@benshapiro
October 12, 2018
446.7k views
On Friday, The Washington Post ran what could easily rank as the single looniest op-d they’ve ever run: a piece from Victoria Bissell Brown, retired history professor at Grinnell College, arguing that men are incapable of being good, even if they oppose sexism. Men are, by nature, vile and terrible, and can’t fix anything by listening to women – instead, they must change from within. Sadly, though, they’re not capable of such change, which begs the question: what the hell are men supposed to do, aside from die?
Brown begins by talking about screaming at her husband. Really.
I yelled at my husband last night. Not pick-up-your-socks yell. Not how-could-you-ignore-that-red-light yell. This was real yelling. This was 30 minutes of from-the-gut yelling. Triggered by a small, thoughtless, dismissive, annoyed, patronizing comment. Really small. A micro-wave that triggered a hurricane. I blew. Hard and fast. And it terrified me. I’m still terrified by what I felt and what I said. I am almost 70 years old. I am a grandmother. Yet in that roiling moment, screaming at my husband as if he represented every clueless male on the planet (and I every angry woman of 2018), I announced that I h**e all men and wish all men were dead. If one of my grandchildren yelled something that ridiculous, I’d have to stifle a laugh.
But she didn’t stifle a laugh. Instead, she doubles down in the pages of The Washington Post. It turns out that her bats*** loonyness isn’t actually bats*** loonyness: screaming at her husband is well-founded. Why? Because he’s a male. Even a male who will sit there letting her scream at him.
My husband of 50 years did not have to stifle a laugh. He took it dead seriously. He did not defend his remark, he did not defend men. He sat, hunched and hurt, and he listened. For a moment, it occurred to me to be grateful that I’m married to a man who will listen to a woman. The winds calmed ever so slightly in that moment. And then the storm surge welled up in me as I realized the pathetic impotence of nice men’s plan to rebuild the wreckage by listening to women. As my rage rushed through the streets of my mind, toppling every memory of every good thing my husband has ever done (and there are scores of memories), I said the meanest thing I’ve ever said to him: Don’t you dare sit there and sympathetically promise to change. Don’t say you will stop yourself before you blurt out some impatient, annoyed, controlling remark. No, I said, you can’t change. You are unable to change. You don’t have the sk**ls and you won’t do it. You, I said, are one of the good men. You respect women, you believe in women, you like women, you don’t hit women or rape women or in any way abuse women. You have applauded and funded feminism for a half-century. You are one of the good men. And you cannot change. You can listen all you want, but that will not create one iota of change.
So, he’s listening to her. He’s sympathizing. He’s asking what he can do. And her answer is: nothing. And shut up. But listen. But, actually, don’t listen, because your listening means nothing. But do something. But you can’t.
All righty, then.
Here’s her recommendation for men:
In the centuries of feminist movements that have washed up and away, good men have not once organized their own mass movement to change themselves and their sons or to attack the mean-spirited, teasing, punching thing that passes for male culture. Not once. Bastards. Don’t listen to me. Listen to each other. Talk to each other. Earn your power for once.
Really? Not once have men organized a movement to curb male aggression? What does she think Western civilization is? What does she think religious education is? What does she think law enforcement is? What does she think marriage is? What does she think institutions dev**ed to the inculcation of virtue are? If men haven’t restricted men, and women can’t restrict men, why are women safer, freer and more prosperous in the West than anywhere, anytime in world history? She’s a history professor – shouldn’t she know this?
But apparently she doesn’t. Because women are all victims:
The g****r war that has broken out in this country is flooding all our houses. It’s rising on the torrent of memories that every woman has. Those memories have come loose from the attic and the basement where we’ve stashed them. They are floating all around us and there is no place left to store them out of sight…No man right now understands the flood that is rushing through women’s brains, and only women in the deepest denial have evacuated their minds before the flood could reach them.
This is pure sexual identity politics. Men can’t understand women, because men aren’t women. Which means they can’t do anything, because they can’t understand. PRIMAL RAGE SCREAM!!!!!
In fact, she argues that even saying you’ll listen to women is an insult:
When good men like Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.) give heartfelt, sincere speeches about how we must listen to women, I don’t know whether to coo or laugh or cry or yell. Think about “listen to women” as a program for change. It says to women: You will continue to suffer these abuses, men will continue to do d********g things to you, the storms will keep coming, the tide will continue to rise, but now, we will listen and help you rebuild. Pay attention people: If we do not raise boys to walk humbly and care deeply, if we do not demand that men do more than just listen, we will all drown in the flood. And there is no patriarchal Noah to save us.
There is not one shred of reason in this op-ed. But reason isn’t the point. Rage is. And rage at good men isn’t a solution. It’s a huge part of the problem.
Frightening insight into the type of woman that "progressives" honor. Scary isn't it?
SWMBO
ByBen Shapiro br @benshapiro br October 12, 2018 b... (
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Amen and Amen and we wonder why divorce is so high in this country nowadays the women are becoming scarier. I was married for 43 years until cancer took my wife from me and I still miss her. I don't understand women who will do this to their men and expect them to sit and take the abuse as I would never do that to my wife and never did either. FEminism has screwed up many women and they just don't get it. Back to the bible for happiness.
no propaganda please wrote:
Many women who are very conservative, like me, to not wish to be on the ignore lit, as we have much to say that is of value.
SWMBO wife of NPP
When you speak your mind and do it directly there is no denying that you should be heard. Women who try to dance on both sides of an issue, simply to make a male believe they are somehow remiss, deserve no credence or time.
no propaganda please wrote:
ByBen Shapiro
@benshapiro
October 12, 2018
446.7k views
On Friday, The Washington Post ran what could easily rank as the single looniest op-d they’ve ever run: a piece from Victoria Bissell Brown, retired history professor at Grinnell College, arguing that men are incapable of being good, even if they oppose sexism. Men are, by nature, vile and terrible, and can’t fix anything by listening to women – instead, they must change from within. Sadly, though, they’re not capable of such change, which begs the question: what the hell are men supposed to do, aside from die?
Brown begins by talking about screaming at her husband. Really.
I yelled at my husband last night. Not pick-up-your-socks yell. Not how-could-you-ignore-that-red-light yell. This was real yelling. This was 30 minutes of from-the-gut yelling. Triggered by a small, thoughtless, dismissive, annoyed, patronizing comment. Really small. A micro-wave that triggered a hurricane. I blew. Hard and fast. And it terrified me. I’m still terrified by what I felt and what I said. I am almost 70 years old. I am a grandmother. Yet in that roiling moment, screaming at my husband as if he represented every clueless male on the planet (and I every angry woman of 2018), I announced that I h**e all men and wish all men were dead. If one of my grandchildren yelled something that ridiculous, I’d have to stifle a laugh.
But she didn’t stifle a laugh. Instead, she doubles down in the pages of The Washington Post. It turns out that her bats*** loonyness isn’t actually bats*** loonyness: screaming at her husband is well-founded. Why? Because he’s a male. Even a male who will sit there letting her scream at him.
My husband of 50 years did not have to stifle a laugh. He took it dead seriously. He did not defend his remark, he did not defend men. He sat, hunched and hurt, and he listened. For a moment, it occurred to me to be grateful that I’m married to a man who will listen to a woman. The winds calmed ever so slightly in that moment. And then the storm surge welled up in me as I realized the pathetic impotence of nice men’s plan to rebuild the wreckage by listening to women. As my rage rushed through the streets of my mind, toppling every memory of every good thing my husband has ever done (and there are scores of memories), I said the meanest thing I’ve ever said to him: Don’t you dare sit there and sympathetically promise to change. Don’t say you will stop yourself before you blurt out some impatient, annoyed, controlling remark. No, I said, you can’t change. You are unable to change. You don’t have the sk**ls and you won’t do it. You, I said, are one of the good men. You respect women, you believe in women, you like women, you don’t hit women or rape women or in any way abuse women. You have applauded and funded feminism for a half-century. You are one of the good men. And you cannot change. You can listen all you want, but that will not create one iota of change.
So, he’s listening to her. He’s sympathizing. He’s asking what he can do. And her answer is: nothing. And shut up. But listen. But, actually, don’t listen, because your listening means nothing. But do something. But you can’t.
All righty, then.
Here’s her recommendation for men:
In the centuries of feminist movements that have washed up and away, good men have not once organized their own mass movement to change themselves and their sons or to attack the mean-spirited, teasing, punching thing that passes for male culture. Not once. Bastards. Don’t listen to me. Listen to each other. Talk to each other. Earn your power for once.
Really? Not once have men organized a movement to curb male aggression? What does she think Western civilization is? What does she think religious education is? What does she think law enforcement is? What does she think marriage is? What does she think institutions dev**ed to the inculcation of virtue are? If men haven’t restricted men, and women can’t restrict men, why are women safer, freer and more prosperous in the West than anywhere, anytime in world history? She’s a history professor – shouldn’t she know this?
But apparently she doesn’t. Because women are all victims:
The g****r war that has broken out in this country is flooding all our houses. It’s rising on the torrent of memories that every woman has. Those memories have come loose from the attic and the basement where we’ve stashed them. They are floating all around us and there is no place left to store them out of sight…No man right now understands the flood that is rushing through women’s brains, and only women in the deepest denial have evacuated their minds before the flood could reach them.
This is pure sexual identity politics. Men can’t understand women, because men aren’t women. Which means they can’t do anything, because they can’t understand. PRIMAL RAGE SCREAM!!!!!
In fact, she argues that even saying you’ll listen to women is an insult:
When good men like Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.) give heartfelt, sincere speeches about how we must listen to women, I don’t know whether to coo or laugh or cry or yell. Think about “listen to women” as a program for change. It says to women: You will continue to suffer these abuses, men will continue to do d********g things to you, the storms will keep coming, the tide will continue to rise, but now, we will listen and help you rebuild. Pay attention people: If we do not raise boys to walk humbly and care deeply, if we do not demand that men do more than just listen, we will all drown in the flood. And there is no patriarchal Noah to save us.
There is not one shred of reason in this op-ed. But reason isn’t the point. Rage is. And rage at good men isn’t a solution. It’s a huge part of the problem.
Frightening insight into the type of woman that "progressives" honor. Scary isn't it?
SWMBO
ByBen Shapiro br @benshapiro br October 12, 2018 b... (
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I read this ridiculous rant. Feminism doesn't produce women, it produces females. You have to have wisdom, maturity, compassion, strength and the ability to truly love to be a women. Just like it takes more than g*****ls to be a man, it takes more than a uterus and hatred of the opposite sex to be a woman. Equal pay for equal work and equal opportunity for equal ability should be what feminism stands for. Pitting men against woman, and trying to literally change nature produces chaos. Progressive "men" honor these "women" because they lack what it takes to be real men, the same maturity, compassion, wisdom, strength, honor and the ability to truly love it would take to attract and live with a r**l w***n. It is sad that these pale, false images of men and women are what progressives want. One could pity them if they didn't INSIST that EVERYONE else want the same thing.
no propaganda please wrote:
ByBen Shapiro
@benshapiro
October 12, 2018
446.7k views
On Friday, The Washington Post ran what could easily rank as the single looniest op-d they’ve ever run: a piece from Victoria Bissell Brown, retired history professor at Grinnell College, arguing that men are incapable of being good, even if they oppose sexism. Men are, by nature, vile and terrible, and can’t fix anything by listening to women – instead, they must change from within. Sadly, though, they’re not capable of such change, which begs the question: what the hell are men supposed to do, aside from die?
Brown begins by talking about screaming at her husband. Really.
I yelled at my husband last night. Not pick-up-your-socks yell. Not how-could-you-ignore-that-red-light yell. This was real yelling. This was 30 minutes of from-the-gut yelling. Triggered by a small, thoughtless, dismissive, annoyed, patronizing comment. Really small. A micro-wave that triggered a hurricane. I blew. Hard and fast. And it terrified me. I’m still terrified by what I felt and what I said. I am almost 70 years old. I am a grandmother. Yet in that roiling moment, screaming at my husband as if he represented every clueless male on the planet (and I every angry woman of 2018), I announced that I h**e all men and wish all men were dead. If one of my grandchildren yelled something that ridiculous, I’d have to stifle a laugh.
But she didn’t stifle a laugh. Instead, she doubles down in the pages of The Washington Post. It turns out that her bats*** loonyness isn’t actually bats*** loonyness: screaming at her husband is well-founded. Why? Because he’s a male. Even a male who will sit there letting her scream at him.
My husband of 50 years did not have to stifle a laugh. He took it dead seriously. He did not defend his remark, he did not defend men. He sat, hunched and hurt, and he listened. For a moment, it occurred to me to be grateful that I’m married to a man who will listen to a woman. The winds calmed ever so slightly in that moment. And then the storm surge welled up in me as I realized the pathetic impotence of nice men’s plan to rebuild the wreckage by listening to women. As my rage rushed through the streets of my mind, toppling every memory of every good thing my husband has ever done (and there are scores of memories), I said the meanest thing I’ve ever said to him: Don’t you dare sit there and sympathetically promise to change. Don’t say you will stop yourself before you blurt out some impatient, annoyed, controlling remark. No, I said, you can’t change. You are unable to change. You don’t have the sk**ls and you won’t do it. You, I said, are one of the good men. You respect women, you believe in women, you like women, you don’t hit women or rape women or in any way abuse women. You have applauded and funded feminism for a half-century. You are one of the good men. And you cannot change. You can listen all you want, but that will not create one iota of change.
So, he’s listening to her. He’s sympathizing. He’s asking what he can do. And her answer is: nothing. And shut up. But listen. But, actually, don’t listen, because your listening means nothing. But do something. But you can’t.
All righty, then.
Here’s her recommendation for men:
In the centuries of feminist movements that have washed up and away, good men have not once organized their own mass movement to change themselves and their sons or to attack the mean-spirited, teasing, punching thing that passes for male culture. Not once. Bastards. Don’t listen to me. Listen to each other. Talk to each other. Earn your power for once.
Really? Not once have men organized a movement to curb male aggression? What does she think Western civilization is? What does she think religious education is? What does she think law enforcement is? What does she think marriage is? What does she think institutions dev**ed to the inculcation of virtue are? If men haven’t restricted men, and women can’t restrict men, why are women safer, freer and more prosperous in the West than anywhere, anytime in world history? She’s a history professor – shouldn’t she know this?
But apparently she doesn’t. Because women are all victims:
The g****r war that has broken out in this country is flooding all our houses. It’s rising on the torrent of memories that every woman has. Those memories have come loose from the attic and the basement where we’ve stashed them. They are floating all around us and there is no place left to store them out of sight…No man right now understands the flood that is rushing through women’s brains, and only women in the deepest denial have evacuated their minds before the flood could reach them.
This is pure sexual identity politics. Men can’t understand women, because men aren’t women. Which means they can’t do anything, because they can’t understand. PRIMAL RAGE SCREAM!!!!!
In fact, she argues that even saying you’ll listen to women is an insult:
When good men like Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.) give heartfelt, sincere speeches about how we must listen to women, I don’t know whether to coo or laugh or cry or yell. Think about “listen to women” as a program for change. It says to women: You will continue to suffer these abuses, men will continue to do d********g things to you, the storms will keep coming, the tide will continue to rise, but now, we will listen and help you rebuild. Pay attention people: If we do not raise boys to walk humbly and care deeply, if we do not demand that men do more than just listen, we will all drown in the flood. And there is no patriarchal Noah to save us.
There is not one shred of reason in this op-ed. But reason isn’t the point. Rage is. And rage at good men isn’t a solution. It’s a huge part of the problem.
Frightening insight into the type of woman that "progressives" honor. Scary isn't it?
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ByBen Shapiro br @benshapiro br October 12, 2018 b... (
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I remember writing a letter to Gloria Steinem in 1977 or 1978 because she had a crazy piece like this in Cosmopolitan. I also cancelled my subscription and demanded a refund for unsent issues- which I got after about 14 requests. In my letter I asked her if she thought all women were stupid, that we should h**e all men. We have brothers and sons. We have men friends. We have men co workers. We can judge for ourselves.
In this current op ed, only weak minded, brain washed angry women act like this. Not r**l w***n. IMO..
no propaganda please wrote:
ByBen Shapiro
@benshapiro
October 12, 2018
446.7k views
On Friday, The Washington Post ran what could easily rank as the single looniest op-d they’ve ever run: a piece from Victoria Bissell Brown, retired history professor at Grinnell College, arguing that men are incapable of being good, even if they oppose sexism. Men are, by nature, vile and terrible, and can’t fix anything by listening to women – instead, they must change from within. Sadly, though, they’re not capable of such change, which begs the question: what the hell are men supposed to do, aside from die?
Brown begins by talking about screaming at her husband. Really.
I yelled at my husband last night. Not pick-up-your-socks yell. Not how-could-you-ignore-that-red-light yell. This was real yelling. This was 30 minutes of from-the-gut yelling. Triggered by a small, thoughtless, dismissive, annoyed, patronizing comment. Really small. A micro-wave that triggered a hurricane. I blew. Hard and fast. And it terrified me. I’m still terrified by what I felt and what I said. I am almost 70 years old. I am a grandmother. Yet in that roiling moment, screaming at my husband as if he represented every clueless male on the planet (and I every angry woman of 2018), I announced that I h**e all men and wish all men were dead. If one of my grandchildren yelled something that ridiculous, I’d have to stifle a laugh.
But she didn’t stifle a laugh. Instead, she doubles down in the pages of The Washington Post. It turns out that her bats*** loonyness isn’t actually bats*** loonyness: screaming at her husband is well-founded. Why? Because he’s a male. Even a male who will sit there letting her scream at him.
My husband of 50 years did not have to stifle a laugh. He took it dead seriously. He did not defend his remark, he did not defend men. He sat, hunched and hurt, and he listened. For a moment, it occurred to me to be grateful that I’m married to a man who will listen to a woman. The winds calmed ever so slightly in that moment. And then the storm surge welled up in me as I realized the pathetic impotence of nice men’s plan to rebuild the wreckage by listening to women. As my rage rushed through the streets of my mind, toppling every memory of every good thing my husband has ever done (and there are scores of memories), I said the meanest thing I’ve ever said to him: Don’t you dare sit there and sympathetically promise to change. Don’t say you will stop yourself before you blurt out some impatient, annoyed, controlling remark. No, I said, you can’t change. You are unable to change. You don’t have the sk**ls and you won’t do it. You, I said, are one of the good men. You respect women, you believe in women, you like women, you don’t hit women or rape women or in any way abuse women. You have applauded and funded feminism for a half-century. You are one of the good men. And you cannot change. You can listen all you want, but that will not create one iota of change.
So, he’s listening to her. He’s sympathizing. He’s asking what he can do. And her answer is: nothing. And shut up. But listen. But, actually, don’t listen, because your listening means nothing. But do something. But you can’t.
All righty, then.
Here’s her recommendation for men:
In the centuries of feminist movements that have washed up and away, good men have not once organized their own mass movement to change themselves and their sons or to attack the mean-spirited, teasing, punching thing that passes for male culture. Not once. Bastards. Don’t listen to me. Listen to each other. Talk to each other. Earn your power for once.
Really? Not once have men organized a movement to curb male aggression? What does she think Western civilization is? What does she think religious education is? What does she think law enforcement is? What does she think marriage is? What does she think institutions dev**ed to the inculcation of virtue are? If men haven’t restricted men, and women can’t restrict men, why are women safer, freer and more prosperous in the West than anywhere, anytime in world history? She’s a history professor – shouldn’t she know this?
But apparently she doesn’t. Because women are all victims:
The g****r war that has broken out in this country is flooding all our houses. It’s rising on the torrent of memories that every woman has. Those memories have come loose from the attic and the basement where we’ve stashed them. They are floating all around us and there is no place left to store them out of sight…No man right now understands the flood that is rushing through women’s brains, and only women in the deepest denial have evacuated their minds before the flood could reach them.
This is pure sexual identity politics. Men can’t understand women, because men aren’t women. Which means they can’t do anything, because they can’t understand. PRIMAL RAGE SCREAM!!!!!
In fact, she argues that even saying you’ll listen to women is an insult:
When good men like Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.) give heartfelt, sincere speeches about how we must listen to women, I don’t know whether to coo or laugh or cry or yell. Think about “listen to women” as a program for change. It says to women: You will continue to suffer these abuses, men will continue to do d********g things to you, the storms will keep coming, the tide will continue to rise, but now, we will listen and help you rebuild. Pay attention people: If we do not raise boys to walk humbly and care deeply, if we do not demand that men do more than just listen, we will all drown in the flood. And there is no patriarchal Noah to save us.
There is not one shred of reason in this op-ed. But reason isn’t the point. Rage is. And rage at good men isn’t a solution. It’s a huge part of the problem.
Frightening insight into the type of woman that "progressives" honor. Scary isn't it?
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ByBen Shapiro br @benshapiro br October 12, 2018 b... (
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This woman's poor husband needs to seriously consider divorce from his batcrap crazy wife.
son of witless wrote:
This woman's poor husband needs to seriously consider divorce from his batcrap crazy wife.
After 41 years of this kind of crap, including 12 years of therapy, I gave up, divorced. Now happy with a sane woman.
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