lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

There you go, a valid idea already. We could also ban the draining of wetlands, which are natures water management apparatus.

Gary Coop 44 Loc: Denver CO

Hear, Hear !!

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

You may be right, but it doesn't hurt to try. Hell, at worst, I'd just be wasting time.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

That was a conservation and farming techniques issue; misuse of water, etc. A far cry from c*****e c****es at the hands of CO2 emissions. Even the "consensus" of scientists in this latest study say we probably can't change the pattern of warming. That's not because they think we are actually beyond a point of no return, but rather, because they don't actually think it is caused by man.

Gary Coop 44 Loc: Denver CO

IF only ?

Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia

OK, we are talking about two quite different issues, but with one central climate point. We will not be able to stop c*****e c****es, but we can prepare for some of the predicted effects of c*****e c****e. So what climate effects are we to try to mitigate?

The focus has been on rising temps causing flooding, thus we may have water rises to cope with, the problem being how much of a sea wall to build, one foot, two feet, ten feet, or what, and also where? The higher the anticipated rise the further inland the penetration, hence the longer the sea walls. DO WE ASSUME THAT TEMP RISE IS THE ONLY PROBLEM?

But suppose we are going into a temp drop period instead, what then? As the continent becomes covered with 30 to 100 feet of ice, just what do we do? Move South? Tens of Millions of people displaced to Florida, Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico?

How do we know far enough in advance to take any reasonable. cost-effective steps either way at all?

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

Somewhere deep in the bowels of the Earth is a sea of molten lava. Which might be the literal hell we hear and read about. Occasionally this lava makes its way to the surface. Under the ocean is the Ring of Fire. It goes around the entire Pacific Ocean. Dormant and active volcanos cover the surface of Earth. Please explain to me how we have any control over what does and doesn't happen to Earth that's in our control. I didn't even mention tsunamis, monsoons, hurricanes, tornadoes, and slip-sliding tectonic plates. But some want us to expend wh**ever national treasure we might still have trying to stop c*****e c****e. Give me a break. It's just another ploy by the world to destroy the USA by bleeding us dry.

Gary Coop 44 Loc: Denver CO

What about Radiation ?

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

It's still pouring into the Pacific. No one knows how to stop it. Wondering if I should buy a Geiger Counter since I love tuna and salmon so much. Watch the bear population in Alaska. If they start dying off, I'm not eating anything out of the ocean again.

Gary Coop 44 Loc: Denver CO

If the third rock from the sun Is still hear !

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

It's my understanding that when Jesus comes we still have a thousand years left, then the third rock gets replaced with a new Earth and a new Heaven.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Those are all changes which, if they were to occur, would so slow as to not be noticed except for records kept over several hundred years or more. So, in essence, we do nothing to prepare for it. If someone lives on the beach or in a beach house or at elevation of 2 ft above sea level, then you live with the risks. Parts of New Orleans are below sea level. Seems pretty stupid to stay there if you ask me.

There are sea cliff houses in San Diego which exist on steadily eroding cliffs. They cannot be insured. Period. Their average cost is around 10 million. If the house collapses into the ocean then they are total loss and they even get fined $70,000 for littering into the ocean.

There have been plenty of times in the past when the ocean rose and when it fell, all so slowly that the sentient life didn't even notice the changes because the happened over thousands of years. Heck, Humans haven't even been writing for 6 or 7000 years.

Pollution is quite another matter. It is poisonous and a health risk. Clean up can happen very quickly over a few short years. Don't confuse CO2 emissions with air pollution. One is fractional compared to the other.

Gary Coop 44 Loc: Denver CO

And humans to ?? Peewee.

Gary Coop 44 Loc: Denver CO

How do you Type that much so Fast ???

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

It happens slowly until it happens quickly. So what's that stuff volcanos spew out? CO2 or air pollution. If CO2 then plants get a boost, but if its fine ash it can k**l you, as can pollution in concentrations past a certain point. We don't really have a serious pollution problem in the US. The rest of the world (China and India) wants us to pay for their problems.