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Oct 7, 2018 12:35:48   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
I am a former Roman Catholic, who wanted to die a Roman Catholic, but was miraculously changed by reading and acting upon the message of the Catholic Bible. Is This The Mary Of The Bible. This book is very important for Catholics.former roman catholicAt one time I wholeheartedly believed Roman Catholicism and its unique, exclusive and authoritative claims that Jesus founded the Roman Catholic Church in 33 AD upon Peter, the first Pope and all other belief systems were inferior at best.
As a former Roman Catholic, I too once lit candles and bought Masses for the dead, prayed for souls in Purgatory, confessed my sins to the priest, believed in apostolic succession and papal infallibility, when the Pope (who is called the Holy Father) speaks ex cathedra. An example of such is the 1302 Unam Sanctam decree, which has been contradicted by Vatical Council II:

"... We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff" (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)

This is a must read

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/catholic.htm

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Oct 7, 2018 19:45:54   #
Radiance3
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
I am a former Roman Catholic, who wanted to die a Roman Catholic, but was miraculously changed by reading and acting upon the message of the Catholic Bible. Is This The Mary Of The Bible. This book is very important for Catholics.former roman catholicAt one time I wholeheartedly believed Roman Catholicism and its unique, exclusive and authoritative claims that Jesus founded the Roman Catholic Church in 33 AD upon Peter, the first Pope and all other belief systems were inferior at best.
As a former Roman Catholic, I too once lit candles and bought Masses for the dead, prayed for souls in Purgatory, confessed my sins to the priest, believed in apostolic succession and papal infallibility, when the Pope (who is called the Holy Father) speaks ex cathedra. An example of such is the 1302 Unam Sanctam decree, which has been contradicted by Vatical Council II:

"... We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff" (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)

This is a must read

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/catholic.htm
I am a former Roman Catholic, who wanted to die a ... (show quote)

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You all got it wrong, but a smear campaign against Catholic Church. That was a Protestant spy to destroy the Catholic Church.
Your job Jack sequim has been destroying the Catholic Church. You must be very insecure in your position, and your option has come up to destruction of the Catholic Church. I am aware God is aware of people who smears lies since they could not meet their ambitions to be where they thought they would be.

1. Those so-called priests, were gays who could not longer abuse children due to very strict policies impost by the Church.

Psychological impact:
2. There are priests who've sworn and testified celibacy all their lives, could not meet the lifetime commitment. Thus got out of the lifetime commitment of being celibate as required by the Church. Often times, priest as a human being get lonely or unappreciated.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/13/a-moment-that-changed-me-leaving-catholic-priest

3. Priest is a lifetime commitment of sacrifice for God. The changes of peoples' lives and the emerging human temptations, sometimes have gotten these priests to take possession where they could function better as child of God, being married, gets out of priesthood, and serve God in various ways.

Fact: I have a nephew about to graduate the seminary, but got out. He married the pianist of his Congregation. When someone is not really designed to be a lifetime priest, the church allows them to follow their earthly lives. Priesthood is a very special lifetime commitment dedicating all their entire lives to serving God.

Those who are not able to face the very rigid celibacy commitment to God, are allowed to leave and pursue the life he wanted to serve God on various ways.

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Oct 8, 2018 01:54:01   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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You all got it wrong, but a smear campaign against Catholic Church. That was a Protestant spy to destroy the Catholic Church.
Your job Jack sequim has been destroying the Catholic Church. You must be very insecure in your position, and your option has come up to destruction of the Catholic Church. I am aware God is aware of people who smears lies since they could not meet their ambitions to be where they thought they would be.

1. Those so-called priests, were gays who could not longer abuse children due to very strict policies impost by the Church.

Psychological impact:
2. There are priests who've sworn and testified celibacy all their lives, could not meet the lifetime commitment. Thus got out of the lifetime commitment of being celibate as required by the Church. Often times, priest as a human being get lonely or unappreciated.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/13/a-moment-that-changed-me-leaving-catholic-priest

3. Priest is a lifetime commitment of sacrifice for God. The changes of peoples' lives and the emerging human temptations, sometimes have gotten these priests to take possession where they could function better as child of God, being married, gets out of priesthood, and serve God in various ways.

Fact: I have a nephew about to graduate the seminary, but got out. He married the pianist of his Congregation. When someone is not really designed to be a lifetime priest, the church allows them to follow their earthly lives. Priesthood is a very special lifetime commitment dedicating all their entire lives to serving God.

Those who are not able to face the very rigid celibacy commitment to God, are allowed to leave and pursue the life he wanted to serve God on various ways.
================== br You all got it wrong, but a ... (show quote)




Then it should be simple to prove the facts brought forward wrong, right?
Since when does past sins disqualify truth? Your claiming a past gay come to Jesus is unqualified by your reason. Then certainly John (Saul) who persecuted Christians must not be qualified to speak the truth in scriptures or what about the whore that Jesus forgave all her sins because of her (faith).

The pure genuine truth that you choose not to investigate (for the sake of your soul, everlasting life) is in taking the effort to prove scriptures,shistory, documents proving the mass deception, lies, Satan practices of the Roman Catholic church.

Hundreds of witnesses over centuries documenting child rape and sacrifice. As recent as pope Francis. But your OK closing your eyes and seeking the truth, because the church tells you they are the true church?.

HrGod's word is in direcconflict with very near every Roman catholic doctrine and if you would seek to investigate, what you will discover is that the smear campaign and lies in order to keep you from the truth has been against the Protestant Christians. The Roman Catholic church has flipped the script so to speak much as The Mormons and Jehovha witnesses, it is not biblical scripture that defines doctrine or why they are the "true church" instead as most cults scripture isn't enough and must have separate "inspired words of God" otherwise without them everything falls apart. That what cults must do in order to deceive.

Wide is the road leading to eternal damnation, narrow to eternal life.

Last thought, CW Lewis and Josh McDowell both have something in common. Both men set out to prove God's word false (they researched) but God's word (truth) caused them to become Christians. Josh McDowell wrote the book "Evidence that demands a verdict" he has PHD, highly educated as was Lewis. They didn't believe anything anyone told them, but researched for themselves.
Prove the scriptures in the many recent post true or false, anything less is not having an answer at God's final judgment. DOC10 won't be there, just you and God. Why did you follow doctrines of devils even after many warnings?

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Oct 8, 2018 07:17:57   #
Radiance3
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Then it should be simple to prove the facts brought forward wrong, right?
Since when does past sins disqualify truth? Your claiming a past gay come to Jesus is unqualified by your reason. Then certainly John (Saul) who persecuted Christians must not be qualified to speak the truth in scriptures or what about the whore that Jesus forgave all her sins because of her (faith).

The pure genuine truth that you choose not to investigate (for the sake of your soul, everlasting life) is in taking the effort to prove scriptures,shistory, documents proving the mass deception, lies, Satan practices of the Roman Catholic church.

Hundreds of witnesses over centuries documenting child rape and sacrifice. As recent as pope Francis. But your OK closing your eyes and seeking the truth, because the church tells you they are the true church?.

HrGod's word is in direcconflict with very near every Roman catholic doctrine and if you would seek to investigate, what you will discover is that the smear campaign and lies in order to keep you from the truth has been against the Protestant Christians. The Roman Catholic church has flipped the script so to speak much as The Mormons and Jehovha witnesses, it is not biblical scripture that defines doctrine or why they are the "true church" instead as most cults scripture isn't enough and must have separate "inspired words of God" otherwise without them everything falls apart. That what cults must do in order to deceive.

Wide is the road leading to eternal damnation, narrow to eternal life.

Last thought, CW Lewis and Josh McDowell both have something in common. Both men set out to prove God's word false (they researched) but God's word (truth) caused them to become Christians. Josh McDowell wrote the book "Evidence that demands a verdict" he has PHD, highly educated as was Lewis. They didn't believe anything anyone told them, but researched for themselves.
Prove the scriptures in the many recent post true or false, anything less is not having an answer at God's final judgment. DOC10 won't be there, just you and God. Why did you follow doctrines of devils even after many warnings?
Then it should be simple to prove the facts brough... (show quote)

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For the sake of my soul? What are you talking about? Save yourself first. I am purely happy with God until you started destroying my true Catholic faith. This is not my masterpiece, but I know the difference between what belongs to God, and what does not.

I think something is wrong with your mind Jack. You are hurting a lot of innocent people. What you are doing, does that makes you happy? You started all these hatred rhetoric about my Catholic Church at OPP. Because I am innocent, and hurting, I have no recourse but to defend myself. You are like bee hives in the hornet nests. But as soon as I defend myself, you become more aggressively obnoxious and toxic.

When you attack the Catholic Church, you directly attack me. All Catholics are members of One Body of Christ. Romans 12:5
https://biblehub.com/romans/12-5.htm

I have been a cradle Catholic, happy and followed all what I believe God asked me to do. I love Christ very much, tried to care and love all kinds of people in my life, that was how I was brought up in my Catholic faith. Yet here comes Jack sequim, wa, whose job on earth is to destroy and hurt people from the Catholic faith.

I think you are like Satan who enjoys hurting innocent people. You've hurt me all the time, tempted to put up with your demonic temptations/ assertions, that are not of God's. Is this the subject matter you've learned for 5 to 6 years of your theology? How to destroy the Catholic Church of Christ.

Currently the earth is full of temptations, but as an innocent person, I have to be strong from the demonic activities now so pervasive all over. I call on all my Catholic brothers and sisters to wear the armour of God. Ephisians 6:10-18.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+6%3A10-18&version=NIV

Ephesians 6:10-18
The Armor of God
10** Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power.
11** Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.
12** For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
13** Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
14**Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place,
15** and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
16 **In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
17** Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

18** And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.

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Oct 8, 2018 07:56:51   #
Radiance3
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Then it should be simple to prove the facts brought forward wrong, right?
Since when does past sins disqualify truth? Your claiming a past gay come to Jesus is unqualified by your reason. Then certainly John (Saul) who persecuted Christians must not be qualified to speak the truth in scriptures or what about the whore that Jesus forgave all her sins because of her (faith).

The pure genuine truth that you choose not to investigate (for the sake of your soul, everlasting life) is in taking the effort to prove scriptures,shistory, documents proving the mass deception, lies, Satan practices of the Roman Catholic church.

Hundreds of witnesses over centuries documenting child rape and sacrifice. As recent as pope Francis. But your OK closing your eyes and seeking the truth, because the church tells you they are the true church?.

HrGod's word is in direcconflict with very near every Roman catholic doctrine and if you would seek to investigate, what you will discover is that the smear campaign and lies in order to keep you from the truth has been against the Protestant Christians. The Roman Catholic church has flipped the script so to speak much as The Mormons and Jehovha witnesses, it is not biblical scripture that defines doctrine or why they are the "true church" instead as most cults scripture isn't enough and must have separate "inspired words of God" otherwise without them everything falls apart. That what cults must do in order to deceive.

Wide is the road leading to eternal damnation, narrow to eternal life.

Last thought, CW Lewis and Josh McDowell both have something in common. Both men set out to prove God's word false (they researched) but God's word (truth) caused them to become Christians. Josh McDowell wrote the book "Evidence that demands a verdict" he has PHD, highly educated as was Lewis. They didn't believe anything anyone told them, but researched for themselves.
Prove the scriptures in the many recent post true or false, anything less is not having an answer at God's final judgment. DOC10 won't be there, just you and God. Why did you follow doctrines of devils even after many warnings?
Then it should be simple to prove the facts brough... (show quote)

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Child rape? What about your Church? These are all over, why not check all around you? Your neighbors, businesses, organizations, schools. Check Bill Cosby, and Bill Clinton, they are Protestants.

Catholics are mostly attacked by the liberal brain like yours. Most of the MSM's and public defend the GAY/LESBIAN movement that are not allowed in the Catholic practice. Then the Catholic Church has been the only attacked Church because of its strict guidelines against the Sodom and Gomorrah's evil lifestyle.

These gays/lesbians are allowed practices of the demonic world. They have no shame displaying their lifestyle for the world to see. And now, is norm of practices approved and practiced by your Protestant Church.

Protestant pastors amass wealth taken from the poorest of the poor. Not only rape but your business is amassing wealth, so demonic and satanic and pervasively multiplying as your norm of living.
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/13/us/abuse-by-clergy-is-not-just-a-catholic-problem.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/13/us/abuse-by-clergy-is-not-just-a-catholic-problem.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/05/31/feature/the-epidemic-of-denial-about-sexual-abuse-in-the-evangelical-church/

How about your pastors like you whose business is not of God but amassing multi-million or even billions dollars of wealth taken from the poorest members of your pulpit and on TV?

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/cashing-church-richest-mega-pastors-america-focus-god-young-jr-

Disgusting. You close your eyes on your own illnesses, but use magnifying glass on the Catholic Church. It is so pervasive activities, and now the cancer of the earth.

Matthew 7:1-5
Judging Others
1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye

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Oct 8, 2018 08:17:19   #
Radiance3
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Then it should be simple to prove the facts brought forward wrong, right?
Since when does past sins disqualify truth? Your claiming a past gay come to Jesus is unqualified by your reason. Then certainly John (Saul) who persecuted Christians must not be qualified to speak the truth in scriptures or what about the whore that Jesus forgave all her sins because of her (faith).

The pure genuine truth that you choose not to investigate (for the sake of your soul, everlasting life) is in taking the effort to prove scriptures,shistory, documents proving the mass deception, lies, Satan practices of the Roman Catholic church.

Hundreds of witnesses over centuries documenting child rape and sacrifice. As recent as pope Francis. But your OK closing your eyes and seeking the truth, because the church tells you they are the true church?.

HrGod's word is in direcconflict with very near every Roman catholic doctrine and if you would seek to investigate, what you will discover is that the smear campaign and lies in order to keep you from the truth has been against the Protestant Christians. The Roman Catholic church has flipped the script so to speak much as The Mormons and Jehovha witnesses, it is not biblical scripture that defines doctrine or why they are the "true church" instead as most cults scripture isn't enough and must have separate "inspired words of God" otherwise without them everything falls apart. That what cults must do in order to deceive.

Wide is the road leading to eternal damnation, narrow to eternal life.

Last thought, CW Lewis and Josh McDowell both have something in common. Both men set out to prove God's word false (they researched) but God's word (truth) caused them to become Christians. Josh McDowell wrote the book "Evidence that demands a verdict" he has PHD, highly educated as was Lewis. They didn't believe anything anyone told them, but researched for themselves.
Prove the scriptures in the many recent post true or false, anything less is not having an answer at God's final judgment. DOC10 won't be there, just you and God. Why did you follow doctrines of devils even after many warnings?
Then it should be simple to prove the facts brough... (show quote)

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I will never follow you Jack. Yours is the devilish doctrine. I have set-up my mind where I am going. To heaven and everlasting joy with Christ and all my love ones. You won't be there.

Matthew 7:1-5
Judging Others
1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

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Oct 8, 2018 09:47:52   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Child rape? What about your Church? These are all over, why not check all around you? Your neighbors, businesses, organizations, schools. Check Bill Cosby, and Bill Clinton, they are Protestants.

Catholics are mostly attacked by the liberal brain like yours. Most of the MSM's and public defend the GAY/LESBIAN movement that are not allowed in the Catholic practice. Then the Catholic Church has been the only attacked Church because of its strict guidelines against the Sodom and Gomorrah's evil lifestyle.

These gays/lesbians are allowed practices of the demonic world. They have no shame displaying their lifestyle for the world to see. And now, is norm of practices approved and practiced by your Protestant Church.

Protestant pastors amass wealth taken from the poorest of the poor. Not only rape but your business is amassing wealth, so demonic and satanic and pervasively multiplying as your norm of living.
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/13/us/abuse-by-clergy-is-not-just-a-catholic-problem.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/13/us/abuse-by-clergy-is-not-just-a-catholic-problem.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/05/31/feature/the-epidemic-of-denial-about-sexual-abuse-in-the-evangelical-church/

How about your pastors like you whose business is not of God but amassing multi-million or even billions dollars of wealth taken from the poorest members of your pulpit and on TV?

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/cashing-church-richest-mega-pastors-america-focus-god-young-jr-

Disgusting. You close your eyes on your own illnesses, but use magnifying glass on the Catholic Church. It is so pervasive activities, and now the cancer of the earth.

Matthew 7:1-5
Judging Others
1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye
=================== br Child rape? What about your... (show quote)



There is a difference if a pope rapes a child and sacrifices a child. Evangelical pastors have never placed themselves as the final word of God as popes do, they don't place themselves equal on earth to our Lord Jesus, you can't see the problem in catholic dogma here?

Isn't the Pope holy? He is worshipped as holy, catholic doctrine says he is holy.
I have never met or heard of an evangelical pastor elevating themselves in the same.
The cults of false teachings, they do this.

Cults call themselves Christians but are Satan's counterfeits which many of the verses you quoted apply to.
The church that Jesus built is not brick and motar, it has no title of Baptist, Evangelical, but is the reborn believers in Jesus, the body of christ, the bride of christ.
Satan counterfeits the church with false doctrine that call themselves by many names, even Christian.
This is why scripture commands us to test all things, if they be true (genuine) by using God's word.
Using God's word the Mormons, jehovha witnesses, Roman Catholics and many, many more fail the test of scripture.

I challenge you to take a KJV Bible and test Catholic doctrine. You can't, because it doesn't pass God's test, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

I have proven using Roman catholic doctrine that you are to :
Worship Mary.
Mary is equal in salvation to Jesus.
Mary was without sin.
Mary never had other children.

Just listing these and only these four doctrines of Satan.
Not one is taught in the Bible, in fact what the Bible says is this is worshiping another God.

False teachings, worshiping other God's = eternal hell fire, and damnation. =unsaved

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Oct 8, 2018 10:42:04   #
Radiance3
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
There is a difference if a pope rapes a child and sacrifices a child. Evangelical pastors have never placed themselves as the final word of God as popes do, they don't place themselves equal on earth to our Lord Jesus, you can't see the problem in catholic dogma here?

Isn't the Pope holy? He is worshipped as holy, catholic doctrine says he is holy.
I have never met or heard of an evangelical pastor elevating themselves in the same.
The cults of false teachings, they do this.

Cults call themselves Christians but are Satan's counterfeits which many of the verses you quoted apply to.
The church that Jesus built is not brick and motar, it has no title of Baptist, Evangelical, but is the reborn believers in Jesus, the body of christ, the bride of christ.
Satan counterfeits the church with false doctrine that call themselves by many names, even Christian.
This is why scripture commands us to test all things, if they be true (genuine) by using God's word.
Using God's word the Mormons, jehovha witnesses, Roman Catholics and many, many more fail the test of scripture.

I challenge you to take a KJV Bible and test Catholic doctrine. You can't, because it doesn't pass God's test, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

I have proven using Roman catholic doctrine that you are to :
Worship Mary.
Mary is equal in salvation to Jesus.
Mary was without sin.
Mary never had other children.

Just listing these and only these four doctrines of Satan.
Not one is taught in the Bible, in fact what the Bible says is this is worshiping another God.

False teachings, worshiping other God's = eternal hell fire, and damnation. =unsaved
There is a difference if a pope rapes a child and ... (show quote)

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The Virgin mother was without sin and immaculate before God called her as a vessel to carry the baby Jesus born of the Holy Spirit of God. Mother Mary was obedient to the call of God.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+1%3A26-38&version=GW

She fulfilled her life and endured all the pains and suffering as she witnessed the ordeal of suffering of Christ on the Cross, the weight of our sins, until he washed away our sins by the flow of his blood. Mary was right here at the foot of the Cross in agony with Christ.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/john/19-25-compare.html

http://www.jesuswalk.com/7-last-words/3_woman.htm. While taking the last breath of his life, Jesus said, woman, behold your son.
Son, behold your mother.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+19%3A25-29&version=NKJV

Yet you Protestants despise her so much regardless of her obedience to God's calling. We honor her for the love, sacrifice, and obedience to God.

After the Baby Jesus was born, then God allowed her to have a family to love her as a human being. Saint Joseph was obedient to God, as God called him to take care of Mary, the Virgin mother of Jesus.

http://www.catholictradition.org/Joseph/joseph24b.htm

https://biblehub.com/matthew/2-13.htm

Yet you Protestants hate this family who've been with Jesus until Jesus ascended to heaven.

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Oct 8, 2018 11:51:18   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The Virgin mother was without sin and immaculate before God called her as a vessel to carry the baby Jesus born of the Holy Spirit of God. Mother Mary was obedient to the call of God.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+1%3A26-38&version=GW

She fulfilled her life and endured all the pains and suffering as she witnessed the ordeal of suffering of Christ on the Cross, the weight of our sins, until he washed away our sins by the flow of his blood. Mary was right here at the foot of the Cross in agony with Christ.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/john/19-25-compare.html

http://www.jesuswalk.com/7-last-words/3_woman.htm. While taking the last breath of his life, Jesus said, woman, behold your son.
Son, behold your mother.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+19%3A25-29&version=NKJV

Yet you Protestants despise her so much regardless of her obedience to God's calling. We honor her for the love, sacrifice, and obedience to God.

After the Baby Jesus was born, then God allowed her to have a family to love her as a human being. Saint Joseph was obedient to God, as God called him to take care of Mary, the Virgin mother of Jesus.

http://www.catholictradition.org/Joseph/joseph24b.htm

https://biblehub.com/matthew/2-13.htm

Yet you Protestants hate this family who've been with Jesus until Jesus ascended to heaven.
=================== br The Virgin mother was witho... (show quote)


Please show me one place where we have 'hated' Mary or any member of The family of Jesus! I don't put any hate filled words in your mouth, please don't put them in mine!

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Oct 8, 2018 13:03:53   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
There is a difference if a pope rapes a child and sacrifices a child. Evangelical pastors have never placed themselves as the final word of God as popes do, they don't place themselves equal on earth to our Lord Jesus, you can't see the problem in catholic dogma here?

Isn't the Pope holy? He is worshipped as holy, catholic doctrine says he is holy.
I have never met or heard of an evangelical pastor elevating themselves in the same.
The cults of false teachings, they do this.

Cults call themselves Christians but are Satan's counterfeits which many of the verses you quoted apply to.
The church that Jesus built is not brick and motar, it has no title of Baptist, Evangelical, but is the reborn believers in Jesus, the body of christ, the bride of christ.
Satan counterfeits the church with false doctrine that call themselves by many names, even Christian.
This is why scripture commands us to test all things, if they be true (genuine) by using God's word.
Using God's word the Mormons, jehovha witnesses, Roman Catholics and many, many more fail the test of scripture.

I challenge you to take a KJV Bible and test Catholic doctrine. You can't, because it doesn't pass God's test, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

I have proven using Roman catholic doctrine that you are to :
Worship Mary.
Mary is equal in salvation to Jesus.
Mary was without sin.
Mary never had other children.

Just listing these and only these four doctrines of Satan.
Not one is taught in the Bible, in fact what the Bible says is this is worshiping another God.

False teachings, worshiping other God's = eternal hell fire, and damnation. =unsaved
There is a difference if a pope rapes a child and ... (show quote)


Jack, you use the KJB as if it's a paper Pope sledge hammer. Remember well that it is the Spirit of the Living Word, not the printed word.

Good grief, Catholics do not worship the Pope neither do they look on him as being holy. I remind you I'm not a Roman Catholic. You would be better served living your own faith than tearing down another's.

Mary is venerated as The Mother of God, the Theotokos. Contradict this and I will enlighten you on how this fact saved the Church from a huge false teaching and a degradation of Jesus. History, son. From the instant of His conception Jesus was fully God and man. Mary's body and Jesus' body were intimately bound together, she supplying everything for his development. If you cannot understand that in this unique relationship Mary is indeed Holy nothing will ever convince you that Mary is the Holy mother of your Lord. You go ahead and disrespect His mother based on prejudice. You go ahead and believed that God used her as a mere pipeline through whom Christ was born and then discarded her. If you are fearful of asking Mary to intercede for you, to pray for you, don't ask anyone else to pray for you either. "Hail Mary full of grace the Lord is with you AND YOU ARE NOW WITH THE LORD who is both your Savior and your Son." And He has His mother beside him. She would not want to be worshipped.

Do you pray for your holy guardian angel, a guardian of your soul and body, one who has watched over you your entire life, a help sent by God specifically for you, someone you offend every day, someone who intercedes for you before God? Of course you don't. Why not? "I only need Jesus!" I refuse to accept all the other sacraments, people and other things He has provided to assist in my salvation........ because He loves me! I am so sorry you will never know the fullness of the Christian faith. You refuse the "banquet" in favor of a hot dog.

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Oct 8, 2018 13:51:55   #
Radiance3
 
TexaCan wrote:
Please show me one place where we have 'hated' Mary or any member of The family of Jesus! I don't put any hate filled words in your mouth, please don't put them in mine!


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I am not talking to you. But I will respond this one time. I prefer talking to Jack.

Yes, Virgin Mary intercedes for us. We ask her intercession. But I saw you guys on TV, praying to God interceding for those who call them on TV. Then after that they were paid. Check your brother multi-millionaire Benny Him. He collapses people on the floor praying, and then so many are really deceived come to him pay him to pray so get healed. He is a protestant. You may not like him, but he one is of the same kind. Like all those multi-millionaires on TV's. Some of them sitting on a golden toilet paid for from the money of the poor who gave them hoping it goes to God. But no, the money went for their luxurious lives.

I pray the Holy Rosary every day. It is a complete prayer. First we pray the Apostles' Creed, the Our Father, the Hail Mary, the Glory be to the Father, and asks for the Lord's forgiveness along with my Catholic brothers and sisters. And finally recognizes that Jesus is the only begotten son of God, by His life, death and resurrection has purchased the gifts of eternal life for all of the children of God.

Now, Protestants criticize Catholics for praying that. I repeat, I pray it every day. Praise God.
And I am blessed. And I love all people of God. But I have to defend myself when Protestant like you attack me. Thanks Lord.

Here we pray for the Virgin Mother’s intercession. What is wrong with that? God makes that decision. Mother Mary is the mother of Jesus when he came to earth to live with us to die and to wash away our sins.

Mother Mary is my guardian angel who guided me as I grew up and became adult.
Oct '08
*Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with Thee. Blessed art Thou among women and blessed is the fruit of Thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen. *

When Protestants criticize us for praying through the Blessed Virgin Mary to Jesus Christ, can we ask them why if we read about Jesus through St. Luke, St. John, St. Matthew, St. Mark, and St. Paul, we cannot pray through the Blessed Virgin Mary to Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ did not pen a gospel as far as I know, so if God chose that we read about him through his disciples, who mostly abandoned him at the Crucifixion, then why does it not make sense that God chose that we pray to him through his Blessed Virgin Mother Mary in the Rosary, second to the Holy Eucharist? I ask your prayers on this reasoning. Thank you!

• Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with Thee. Blessed art Thou among women and blessed is the fruit of Thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen

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Oct 8, 2018 14:01:33   #
bahmer
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Yes, Virgin Mary intercedes for us. We ask her intercession. But I saw you guys on TV, praying to God interceding for those who call them on TV. Then after that they were paid. Check your brother multi-millionaire Benny Him. He collapses people on the floor praying, and then so many are really deceived come to him pay him to pray so get healed. He is a protestant. You may not like him, but he one is of the same kind. Like all those multi-millionaires on TV's. Some of them sitting on a golden toilet paid for from the money of the poor who gave them hoping it goes to God. But no, the money went for their luxurious lives.

I pray the Holy Rosary every day. It is a complete prayer. First we pray the Apostles' Creed, the Our Father, the Hail Mary, the Glory be to the Father, and asks for the Lord's forgiveness along with my Catholic brothers and sisters. And finally recognizes that Jesus is the only begotten son of God, by His life, death and resurrection has purchased the gifts of eternal life for all of the children of God.

Now, Protestants criticize Catholics for praying that. I repeat, I pray it every day. Praise God.
And I am blessed. Thanks Lord.

Here we pray for the Virgin Mother’s intercession. What is wrong with that? God makes that decision. Mother Mary is the mother of Jesus when he came to earth to live with us to die and to wash away our sins.

Mother Mary is my guardian angel who guided me as I grew up and became adult.
Oct '08
*Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with Thee. Blessed art Thou among women and blessed is the fruit of Thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen. *
When Protestants criticize us for praying through the Blessed Virgin Mary to Jesus Christ, can we ask them why if we read about Jesus through St. Luke, St. John, St. Matthew, St. Mark, and St. Paul, we cannot pray through the Blessed Virgin Mary to Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ did not pen a gospel as far as I know, so if God chose that we read about him through his disciples, who mostly abandoned him at the Crucifixion, then why does it not make sense that God chose that we pray to him through his Blessed Virgin Mother Mary in the Rosary, second to the Holy Eucharist? I ask your prayers on this reasoning. Thank you!

• Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with Thee. Blessed art Thou among women and blessed is the fruit of Thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen
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Should the church be telling us the truth or lying to us?

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Oct 8, 2018 14:11:27   #
Radiance3
 
bahmer wrote:
Should the church be telling us the truth or lying to us?


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bahmer, what are you talking about? The Church guides us, and make us one Body of Christ through the Holy Eucharist. The Body and blood of Christ. John 6.53
John 6:53- Jesus said to them:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+6%3A53&version=NIV
Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

Matthew 11:28-30 NIV - “Come to me, all you who are weary-
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+11%3A28-30&version...
Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in.

That is what we do in Church. And praise, worship and love the Lord.

Listen to this loving prayer of Saint Joseph of Assisi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI1Gst7pEqc.

Just listen to that. It makes me cry. It is all about love and forgiveness. That is what we pray in the Catholic Church Just listen for once and decide if you still hate the Catholics. I love all people of God. And I repeat that over and over. I was trained in my Catholic Church to love, and serve God.

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Oct 8, 2018 14:14:35   #
bahmer
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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bahmer, what are you talking about? The Church guides us, and make us one Body of Christ through the Holy Eucharist. The Body and blood of Christ. John 6.53
John 6:53- Jesus said to them:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+6%3A53&version=NIV
Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

Matthew 11:28-30 NIV - “Come to me, all you who are weary-
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+11%3A28-30&version...
Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in.
================ br bahmer, what are you talking a... (show quote)


I am asking a question, should the church be telling us the truth?

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Oct 8, 2018 14:20:53   #
Radiance3
 
bahmer wrote:
I am asking a question, should the church be telling us the truth?


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What does your Church tells you? Why not ask your Church?

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