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This is kind of a re-do, hopefully a little better and some specific details from a book.


What or why are “more difficult” the negotiations with North Korea? What or who is really Obama?

Mr. Trump is a “good negotiator” maybe a “great one” as he believed himself to be! And the meeting with the North Korea dictator seemed to be very fructíferous!
However shortly after, Mr. Kim Jong-un made a visit to his Godfather and closest allied, dictator of China, Xi Jinping, then things kind of changed!
It should be understood that China is the same as North Korea;
A c*******t Country! And an enemy of this country!

They enriched themself with the help from the West “using capitalisms instead of socialisms ideas”

Mr. Xi Jinping and China don’t want the disartment from North Korea! So, even if Kim Jong-un was sincere as he appeared in the Summit with Mr.Trump, it is understable things did not go smoothly between Trump and Kim Jong-un after that meeting in China.

However, things are not just as simple as what’s been said.

There were things done by this country that influenced even greater than an special “Godfather” association and same ideals between China and North Korea.

Ok, let’s go back a little bit and see what happened with Obama’s policy.

Mr. Obama was never in favor of the war against Iraq!

He was one of the few who v**ed against when he was a Senator!

The majority of democrats and republicans v**ed in favor!

Including his “two” Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry!

One of the reasons they gave the green light to Mr. Bush was because the United States was attacked by terrorists on Sep.11, and Mr. Saddam Hussein was the biggest promoter of terrorisms at that time!

So, Obama promised to withdraw from Iraq before becoming President, and he did!

However he did not left Iraq in a dignified way!

He got out of Iraq probably “knowing” it was not the right thing to do at that time!
All the Generals advised Mr. Obama of what would likely happened if they withdraw too early!
Specially when the country was stable and the war was considered a success! But he did regardless!

The President of the United States; Mr. Obama fulfilled a promise, however because of “the way and moment it was done”he did something against the interest of this country and the interest against the war on terrorisms! and of course, the people of Iraq.

However, the Media and most democrats ignored the reality of what happened!

He reversed any good of that war!

Obama made sure it would be a “debacle” instead of any success!

But “the Media was and is Liberal” and was in love with Obama!
They ignored what really happened and supported his actions regardless!

The foreign affairs policies of Obama did a lot of damage to the influence of the United States in any future negotiations.
And a lot of harm to a lot of people in general!

Of course, we are not just talking about Iraq.

If we should talk about Libya specially, what happened and why?

Mr. Muammar Gaddafi was a well known dictator and supporter of terrorisms and an enemy of this country for a long time.

However, even before the United States under the leadership of Bush declared war against terrorists and his supporters, Mr. Gaddafi was trying to go toward reconciliations with the West, perhaps wanting the lift of economy sanctions, as in 1999 Libya extradites the two suspects in the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight to Scottish authorities for trial.

But we should go on details and taken from this great book:
Architects of Disaster: The Destruction of Libya
Book by Peter Hoekstra

Continuous the following:
The same year(1999) The UN suspends sanctions against Libya.

In July 1999- Britain and Libya resume diplomatic relations.

December 1999- Gaddafi denounces terrorisms, having already expelled the Abu Nidal terrorist organization and closed training camps.

However, after the attack of september 11, 2001 in New York, the dramatic shift from Gaddafi was stunning!
[“Perhaps out of fear of the mighty USA after the subsequent reaction from Mr. Bush terminating on the invasion of Iraq”]

The month after 9/11, Assistant Secretary of State William j. Burns, along with Ben Bonk, deputy director of the CIA’s counter-terrorisms center flew to London to meet with Libyan Intelligence chief, Moussa Koussa, who reportedly provided the names of libyan islamist operatives who trained in afghanistan as well as detailed information about leaders of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG)-- information to be a windfall for the CIA in it’s hunt for jihadists!
The Bush administration made it clear that any new Libyan-American partnership was predicated on Gaddafi’s payment of compensation to the families of the Lockerbie victims, as well as on Libyan termination of it’s weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs!

In August 2003, Gaddafi agreed to pay the Lockerbie families $2.7 billion.

Four months later, he made the stunning announcement that he was surrendering his WMD programs.

After years of building on his WMD program now, at Gaddafi’s request, American and British teams entered the country and disabled or removed all of Libya’s centrifuges and other dual-use nuclear equipment!

September 12, 2003---- In a 13--0 v**e, the UN Security council formally lifts sanctions on Libya.
January 18, 2004----U.S. and British officials arrived in Libya to begin eliminating and removing WMD designs and stockpiles.
February 6, 2004---- A U.S.- led delegation meets with Libyan officials in London “to begin a political dialogue about the future of U.S. -Libya relations”.
February 12, 2004--- Former House Intelligence Committee chairman Pete Hoekstra participates in the first of three congressional delegations to meet with Gaddafi in Libya. The State Department asks Hoekstra and other members of the delegation to express the United States gratitude for Libya’s having abandoned its WMD programs and having renounced its ties to terror groups.

February 26, 2004--- The United States lifts its Libya travel ban, U.S. citizens are allowed to spend money in Libya, and businesses may enter negotiations to reacquire pre-sanctions holdings inside Libya. The United States also offers Libya the possibility of opening a diplomatic interests section in Washington.

March 5, 2004--- Libyan officials submit a complete declaration of the state’s chemical weapons stockpile and facilities.

September 20, 2004--- The United States lifts most of its remaining sanctions on Libya.

May 15, 2006--- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice announces the establishment of full diplomatic relations between the United States and Libya.

October 16, 2007--- Libya gains a seat on the UN Security Council.

January 3, 2008--- U.S. and Libyan officials sign their first bilateral agreement, the Science and Technology Cooperation Agreement.

August 14, 2008--- The United States and Libya sign the U.S.- Libya Claims Settlement Agreement, providing full compensation for victims of the Lockerbie bombing of the Berlin Disco.

September 5, 2008--- Rice meets with Gaddafi, becoming the highest-ranking U.S. official to visit Libya in more than fifty years.

Condoleezza Rice's visit opens new era in US-Libya relations


Condoleezza Rice became the first American secretary of state to visit Libya in more than half a century on Friday, delivering a diplomatic dividend to the country's unpredictable leader Muammar Gaddafi.

The value of the cooperation from Libya was huge!

In addition to providing extensive information to the CIA about libyan nationals in Al Qaeda, the regime gave Washington a treasure trove of information about black market suppliers.
Kenneth Katzman, a terrorism analyst at the Congressional Research Service said, information provided by the libyans “helped us to track down aspects of the black-market network and contribute to the shutdown of parts of that network in Malaysia and the United Arab Emirates”.

Gaddafi’s intelligence cooperation became even more invaluable when libyan jihadists flocked to Iraq to fight U.S.-led coalition forces.
In contrast to the Saudis, the libyan leader did not undercut his cooperation in the war with terror by turning a blind eye to jihadist infiltration of Iraq or by spending billions of dollars promoting the spread of radical Wahhabi Islamist ideology around the world.

This was the Gaddafi, and the Libya inherited by the Obama administration after the 2008 p**********l e******ns:

A Libya that was stable, and a Gaddafi helping to keep the lid on the threat posed by radical jihadists!

But with radically different thinking in the White House, neither a stable Libya nor Gaddafi would survive Obama’s first term!
Neither would the American ambassador, nor three other Americans!

Mr. Obama soon after assuming office began reaching out terrorists groups Hamas and Egypt’s powerful Muslim Brotherhood shunned by all previous administrations as clearly enemies of Israel that pretended to be moderates, or I would rather say, Obama accepted them as such!

Obama sided with jihadists and was trying to make a distinction among them, but there were countless salafi- jihadists veterans of the global Al Qaeda network.

Mr. Obama who previously had signaled his acceptance of radical jihadism by siding with the Iranian regime over pro-democracy protestors during the Green Revolution, as well as the Egypt’s Muslim brotherhood-both in 2009.

All that information from the book,
Architects of Disaster: The Destruction of Libya
Book by Peter Hoekstra

And from all that I would say,

Mr. Obama triggered and made possible the fall and dead of a dictator that became an allied against the war of terrorism!

However,Obama went to Cuba and shake hands with Castro legitimizing a dictatorship and lifting all the sanctions without asking for anything in return, ignoring the thousands of cubans and others innocents who died because of the Castros.

So, it is obvious that Mr. Obama felt very comfortable with the Castro’s regime that have been terrorisms supporters and active terrorists for a long time!
He even removed Cuba from the terrorists List with “NOT EVEN A COMMITMENT” from them!

Then, who or what is really Obama?

Is he an “incompetent president” because he withdrew clearly too early from Iraq ignoring the advise from all the Generals in command?

Is Mr. Obama an “incompetent” president” because he created a case (mostly proven lies by International watch) against a country; Libya that became probably the most valuable allied against the war to terrorisms!

Is Mr. Obama an “incompetent president” because he forced “a terrible deal” in favor of the Major supporter of terrorisms; Iran! ignoring any
advise (including a detailed case from Israel) our only real friend and democratic country in that region!

Then, what about Obama accusing his own country, of being torturers in time of war? Which he never accepted as such!
Obama even swapped four of the worst prisoners of war from Guantánamo Prison Camp for a desertor! Then, he received him at the White House as a hero! Is that incompetence?

Or, was (is) Mr. Obama hiding what or who he really is instead?



Obama’s actions showed him as a supporter and friend of the Jihadists! The palestinian terrorists! The egyptians terrorists!

Obama’s actions showed him as a friend of declared enemies of this country; as Iran and Cuba!

Obama’s actions showed him as an enemy of “countries that fight or are against islamists terrorists” as Israel and probably most of the arab countries, as well as a former (not anymore, thanks to Obama!) added fighter of terrorism, Libya.

And what about, Obama’s refusal to ever accept that there was a war against “Islamist terrorists” and not even “MENTIONING” the word “islamists” attached to terrorisms as he considered it as being offensive!

Mr.Obama is or was not incompetent as some “conservatives and republicans” called him, trying to find answer to his actions!

Or maybe they’ve been so naived that it topped the stupidity mark!

Mr. Obama is rather “very smart” because he was able to change the democratic Party!
There are not discerning or different views anymore!

Not moderates among democrats anymore!

Obama divided this country because he wanted to!

Mr. Obama’s actions (instead of what he said) showed that he cares more for Muslims than Christians!

Obama’s actions showed that he is either a sympathizer or a supporter of Islamic terrorisms!

Obama’s actions showed that he is an enemy instead of a friend of Israel!

Obama’s actions and his past showed him as a marxist, not even close of being a friend of capitalism!

Because of Obama’s “very wrong” and insolent way of “acting with what it seems a complete disregard for the lost of american lives in the war” as it seems apparent that his ideology was “what really most matters to him”.
Because of his actions hundreds of thousands! Perhaps “Millions” of people died or were affected for the rest of their lives!

However, The “F**E MEDIA” will never admitted it, but it is the TRUE!

Then, going to North Korea, it is obvious that even though, the policy from Trump has been very different, and even if the North Korean dictator is “sincere” about his negotiations, there should probably be some concerns from Mr. Kim Jong-un of what might happen to him once Trump is gone, the same as Gaddafi?

Thank you very much,

Héctor Bayate

Ricktloml

Interesting article. And yes, looking at Obama's actions, who he surrounded himself with, he was a jihadist sympathizer. His corruption and abuse of power on the domestic side is now being exposed. Obama came close to that "fundamental t***sformation" of America into a police state with the attempt at the first political c**p in American history that is it just now being fully uncovered.

Idaho

Hopefully the Obama years will be written up and remembered as the lesson that Americans never forget, and never let happen again.