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Sep 5, 2018 10:34:47   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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This wont go on much longer as the Dead Keep stacking up.


Sici, I believe that pafret has been reporting on this ELE for years.

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Sep 5, 2018 10:37:34   #
Sicilianthing
 
Justsss wrote:
Pafret had been reporting on this for years if I’m correct. It is an ELE. bathhouse barry raised the limits so people wouldn’t panic. Leading the sheeple to slaughter.


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I just need to hear Trump stand at the podium and announce it so I know what to do next.

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Sep 5, 2018 11:25:33   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I just need to hear Trump stand at the podium and announce it so I know what to do next.


Sici, I always wondered about Revelation 8:11 ( KJV ) in regard to the poisoning of The Worlds water supply. This ELE will only be stopped and healed by GOD after so many soon to happen events take place.

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Sep 5, 2018 11:27:56   #
Sicilianthing
 
Justsss wrote:
Sici, I always wondered about Revelation 8:11 ( KJV ) in regard to the poisoning of The Worlds water supply. This ELE will only be stopped and healed by GOD after so many soon to happen events take place.


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I guess, at this point we are ph**ked it seems as they just keep building more Nuke Plants

And screwing around with CERN

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Sep 5, 2018 11:29:26   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
Justsss wrote:
Pafret had been reporting on this for years if I’m correct. It is an ELE. bathhouse barry raised the limits so people wouldn’t panic. Leading the sheeple to slaughter.


That is Exactly what Obama did. Kept imported products comming in to avoid an International Commerce Crisis. Regardless of the poisoning of the people that Loved him so much.
No one will admit that Obama in one Sick, and Greedy Waste of Human Flesh!
"Fundamentally Changing the Culture of America"
Good job asshole.

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Sep 5, 2018 11:47:08   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Weasel wrote:
That is Exactly what Obama did. Kept imported products comming in to avoid an International Commerce Crisis. Regardless of the poisoning of the people that Loved him so much.
No one will admit that Obama in one Sick, and Greedy Waste of Human Flesh!
"Fundamentally Changing the Culture of America"
Good job asshole.
That is Exactly what Obama did. Kept imported prod... (show quote)


Weasel, I wish it was only bathhouse barry, but it’s all of these deep state clowns on both sides of the aisle who don’t care one bit about you or I.

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Sep 5, 2018 11:49:40   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I guess, at this point we are ph**ked it seems as they just keep building more Nuke Plants

And screwing around with CERN


Sici, thanks for bringing CERN up also as most have no idea what we have done and are doing to the World.

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Sep 5, 2018 13:54:37   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Weasel wrote:
That is Exactly what Obama did. Kept imported products comming in to avoid an International Commerce Crisis. Regardless of the poisoning of the people that Loved him so much.
No one will admit that Obama in one Sick, and Greedy Waste of Human Flesh!
"Fundamentally Changing the Culture of America"
Good job asshole.
That is Exactly what Obama did. Kept imported prod... (show quote)


weasel,,

this is the kind of thing that makes a person distrust information from the Govt.. Radiation for most of us, means something unknown and fearsome..

Seem by some articles, we know nothing..

but...couple samples....


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-16/epa-says-higher-radiation-levels-pose-no-harmful-health-effect

The Obama administration finalized a document in its waning days increasing the amount of radiation exposure in drinking water during an nuclear emergency to 500 mrem before emergency officials were required to provide bottled water or other alternative drinking water sources.

n the event of a dirty bomb or a nuclear meltdown, emergency responders can safely tolerate radiation levels equivalent to thousands of chest X-rays, the Environmental Protection Agency said in new guidelines that ease off on established safety levels.

The EPA’s determination sets a level ten times the drinking water standard for radiation recommended under President Barack Obama. It could lead to the administration of President Donald Trump weakening radiation safety levels, watchdog groups critical of the move say.

"It’s really a huge amount of radiation they are saying is safe," said Daniel Hirsch, the retired director of the University of California, Santa Cruz’s program on environmental and nuclear policy. "The position taken could readily unravel all radiation protection rules."

The change was included as part of EPA "guidance" on messaging and communications in the event of a nuclear power plant meltdown or dirty bomb attack. The FAQ document, dated September 2017, is part of a broader planning document for nuclear emergencies, and does not carry the weight of federal standards or law.

"According to radiation safety experts, radiation exposures of 5-10 rem (5,000-10,000 mrem or 50-100 mSv) usually result in no harmful health effects, because radiation below these levels is a minor contributor to our overall cancer risk," EPA said in the document. That level is equivalent to as many as 5,000 chest X-rays or seven to 14 chest CT scans, according to a comparison with Food and Drug Administration data.

A 2007 version of the same document stated that no level of radiation is safe, concluding: "The current body of scientific knowledge tells us this."

Read More: Trump Plays Down Health Hazard in Making Climate Rule Repeal

“EPA has not changed its standards regarding radiation exposure, and no protective guidelines were changed during this administration," EPA spokeswoman Liz Bowman said in a statement. "We are simply providing more supporting resources.”



For a little balance, this article may be worth a look..


http://reason.com/archives/2014/07/06/raising-the-epa-radiation-limit-will-sav


Raising the EPA Radiation Limit Will Save Thousands of Lives and Billions of Dollars

he trigger for the change was the government recognizing the ramifications of two things. The first is the reality of nuclear terrorism. The Government Accounting Office (GAO) has recently insisted that the EPA establish realistic limits in accordance with the latest science. Under the old limits, a tiny “dirty bomb” explosion in an American city would have meant evacuating hundreds of thousands of people.

The second is Fukushima. After the catastrophic meltdown at the Japanese nuclear power plant in 2011, some 130,000 people were forcibly removed from their homes in accordance with strict radiation standards. This resulted in the unnecessary and unfortunate deaths of some 1600 elderly and ill persons. Yet no residents died—or even became ill—from the radiation. Even so, Japan closed down 48 nuclear plants and Germany announced it would close all of its plants. The cost to their citizenry in higher electricity prices—and higher carbon emissions—is staggering.

The cost to U.S. citizens is staggering as well. Ultra-low limits have delayed

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Sep 5, 2018 14:52:05   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
permafrost wrote:
weasel,,

this is the kind of thing that makes a person distrust information from the Govt.. Radiation for most of us, means something unknown and fearsome..

Seem by some articles, we know nothing..

but...couple samples....


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-16/epa-says-higher-radiation-levels-pose-no-harmful-health-effect

The Obama administration finalized a document in its waning days increasing the amount of radiation exposure in drinking water during an nuclear emergency to 500 mrem before emergency officials were required to provide bottled water or other alternative drinking water sources.

n the event of a dirty bomb or a nuclear meltdown, emergency responders can safely tolerate radiation levels equivalent to thousands of chest X-rays, the Environmental Protection Agency said in new guidelines that ease off on established safety levels.

The EPA’s determination sets a level ten times the drinking water standard for radiation recommended under President Barack Obama. It could lead to the administration of President Donald Trump weakening radiation safety levels, watchdog groups critical of the move say.

"It’s really a huge amount of radiation they are saying is safe," said Daniel Hirsch, the retired director of the University of California, Santa Cruz’s program on environmental and nuclear policy. "The position taken could readily unravel all radiation protection rules."

The change was included as part of EPA "guidance" on messaging and communications in the event of a nuclear power plant meltdown or dirty bomb attack. The FAQ document, dated September 2017, is part of a broader planning document for nuclear emergencies, and does not carry the weight of federal standards or law.

"According to radiation safety experts, radiation exposures of 5-10 rem (5,000-10,000 mrem or 50-100 mSv) usually result in no harmful health effects, because radiation below these levels is a minor contributor to our overall cancer risk," EPA said in the document. That level is equivalent to as many as 5,000 chest X-rays or seven to 14 chest CT scans, according to a comparison with Food and Drug Administration data.

A 2007 version of the same document stated that no level of radiation is safe, concluding: "The current body of scientific knowledge tells us this."

Read More: Trump Plays Down Health Hazard in Making Climate Rule Repeal

“EPA has not changed its standards regarding radiation exposure, and no protective guidelines were changed during this administration," EPA spokeswoman Liz Bowman said in a statement. "We are simply providing more supporting resources.”



For a little balance, this article may be worth a look..


http://reason.com/archives/2014/07/06/raising-the-epa-radiation-limit-will-sav


Raising the EPA Radiation Limit Will Save Thousands of Lives and Billions of Dollars

he trigger for the change was the government recognizing the ramifications of two things. The first is the reality of nuclear terrorism. The Government Accounting Office (GAO) has recently insisted that the EPA establish realistic limits in accordance with the latest science. Under the old limits, a tiny “dirty bomb” explosion in an American city would have meant evacuating hundreds of thousands of people.

The second is Fukushima. After the catastrophic meltdown at the Japanese nuclear power plant in 2011, some 130,000 people were forcibly removed from their homes in accordance with strict radiation standards. This resulted in the unnecessary and unfortunate deaths of some 1600 elderly and ill persons. Yet no residents died—or even became ill—from the radiation. Even so, Japan closed down 48 nuclear plants and Germany announced it would close all of its plants. The cost to their citizenry in higher electricity prices—and higher carbon emissions—is staggering.

The cost to U.S. citizens is staggering as well. Ultra-low limits have delayed
weasel,, br br this is the kind of thing that mak... (show quote)


This is the first time in the history of this world that any Nuclear Reactor has melted down and turned to liquid. In the Fukushima Disaster 3 reactors have turned to liquid during their melt down. The corium is gone and there is nothing left to retrieve, as it is dispersing into the Pacific Ocean. This is truley something we know nothing about, other than( IT'S BAD NEWS ).
CHEAP Energy was never the goal if you look at the cost of handling the waste product for thousands of years.

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Sep 5, 2018 14:55:55   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Weasel wrote:
This is the first time in the history of this world that any Nuclear Reactor has melted down and turned to liquid. In the Fukushima Disaster 3 reactors have turned to liquid during their melt down. The corium is gone and there is nothing left to retrieve, as it is dispersing into the Pacific Ocean. This is truley something we know nothing about, other than( IT'S BAD NEWS ).
CHEAP Energy was never the goal if you look at the cost of handling the waste product for thousands of years.



Also, for my anyway, it has been a problem keeping up with the latest, if any news about the clean up efforts..

very bad, all the way around..

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Sep 5, 2018 15:11:08   #
Sicilianthing
 
Justsss wrote:
Sici, thanks for bringing CERN up also as most have no idea what we have done and are doing to the World.


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Yep I try to follow up on CERN from time to time, notice how it’s never in the news ?

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Sep 5, 2018 17:55:08   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
permafrost wrote:
Also, for my anyway, it has been a problem keeping up with the latest, if any news about the clean up efforts..

very bad, all the way around..


President Obama did give a speech on March 17 2011 on this disaster. 4 days later Gag Orders were issued.
You can google the speech.

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Sep 5, 2018 20:15:01   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Yep I try to follow up on CERN from time to time, notice how it’s never in the news ?


Sici, I find plenty of articles about CERN on Christian websites, but you’re correct that it’s no where else.

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Sep 5, 2018 20:20:17   #
Sicilianthing
 
Justsss wrote:
Sici, I find plenty of articles about CERN on Christian websites, but you’re correct that it’s no where else.


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If you find good ones post them here in new Topics and let me know... please.
I can’t catch everything.

Yes Christians are very worried about it because of what the lunatics are trying to achieve with it.. Dark Matter

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Sep 5, 2018 22:55:20   #
debeda
 
NikoliMc wrote:
I was recently notified by another friend of the fact that a newspaper article in Berlin, their paper called "Der Spiegel" printed an article about those people who were on the USS Ronald Reagan, when it was sent to Fukushima to help, began to be ill with various cancers. Male and female, enlisted and officers, are now coming down with Thyroid cancer, testicular and ovarian cancer, Leukemia, and cancers of all other kinds.
The Reagan, and her accompanying ships that make up her battle group, were at one time 50 miles offshore, later, they pulled back to 100 miles.
They cannot sue the Navy, so now they are trying to sue TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company), and of course, that will take an enormous amount of time. Some of the people have already died. It is hoped that compensation will at least, pay money to their survivors. I have personally notified two Las Vegas TV news programs, and two newspapers. I gave them references so they could research the situation themselves. Nothing.

So, here are the references: Google "Fukushima Updates," then add the current date. Also, read the archives dating back to the date of the disaster, 3/11/11. There are several postings with the approximate same title.
Here are other resources. Do your own research:
"Beyond Nuclear:" linda@beyondnuclear.org. Ask to be placed on the mailing list, it is free.

Nevada Nuclear Waste Taskforce: Judy Treichel, judynwtf@@aol.com. She is the executive director for Nevadans working to stop Yucca Mountain. It would be insane to put waste there. Under the site, there is an earthquake fault, and under that, there is a water table. And there are signs of ancient volcanism. No volcano can ever truly said to be 'dormant.' Vesuvius last erupted in 1948!

Ace Hoffman: rhoffman@animatedsoftware.com. He was quite active at getting the nuclear station nearest him, shut down. He also earns his living by doing animated software for medical school and universities. Ask him for a link to his nuclear animated software. Especially, watch "Poison Fire." Ace can also be found on YouTube.

NIRSNET: nirsnet@nirs.org.

Fairewinds: contact@fairewinds.org. Read Arnie Gundersen's articles, and see his videos on YouTube; He has also traveled to Fukushima, twice. He is a nuclear engineer, with a Phd in nuclear engineering. He has been quoted as saying "This is the worst man-caused disaster in human history!" He thinks there is no chance of remediation of the disaster before 40 to 100 years, using technology not yet invented. And TEPCO wants to dump several millions tons more irradiated water into the Pacific, on the thought that it would 'dilute' the radiation.

Watchdog: info@watchdog.com.

Harvey Wasserman: solartopia@me.com

Also, Tokyo is forcing Japanese farmers to grow produce on poisoned land, and sell it in the markets in Tokyo. I have seen a video of a Japanese farmer begging not to be forced to grow such produce. Farmers will not eat it themselves. Further, and even more cynical, Tokyo is scheduled to host the Summer Olympics in 2020. And they are PLANNING on feeding that to the athletes!
I notified the IOC, nothing. I notified the US OC, and did talk to a woman there who was willing to listen. She did tell me that American Olympic Athletes carry food to eat when they are competing in foreign lands. I understand why Tokyo wants to continue: If you Google "Tokyo Summer Olympic Games, 2020," you will see that they have already prepared magnificent venues for the Games. But I personally think the Games should be sent back to any former Olympic city that still has intact Olympic venues. Los Angeles, London? There is still background radiation in Tokyo! Yet, having spent so much money, I can understand why they would like to proceed. So, if we can get them informed, at least the athletes can make a choice whether to attend, or not.
Tokyo is now also threatening to send all the people who were dispersed after the Fukushima accident, back to their homes. They plan to cut the allowances that made it possible for evacuees to stay away from Fukushima.
Even worse, in a perfect demonstration of how radiation can harm DNA, there is a group of the monkeys called Macaques, who often in winter, go into hot springs. One such group lives near Fukushima. To keep the monkeys from overbreeding an area, they are often 'culled.' Scientists are finding that fetal and baby macaques are being born with smaller brains, and smaller heads!

The whole topic just gives me the willies. I have 13 living descendants, and I want a green and safe world for them.
I was recently notified by another friend of the f... (show quote)


WOW I have heard NOTHING about this! Thanks for the heads up, gonna check it out and catch up.

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