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Aug 7, 2018 17:29:35   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The only problem is that it's a lie.


I'll bet you want to put that lie on Trump, right? I do really feel sorry for you people when you get out that word.

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Aug 7, 2018 17:33:38   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Mrs. Obama did not have a staff of 40.
Melania does nothing, so she does not need staff.

The white house does not want too many staff watching them.
Many positions, no one wants to take, under trump.

They are not even trying to recruit for many jobs.

$400.000 annual salary, paid quarterly, automatically a lie.

In late May 2018, we received a batch of inquiries from readers asking for verification of the claim that United States President Donald Trump had donated his first-quarter 2018 salary to the Department of Veterans Affairs.
As a candidate, Trump famously promised to forgo his entire $400,000-per-year p**********l salary if elected, following in the footsteps of Presidents John F. Kennedy and Herbert Hoover, both of whom were independently wealthy and donated the entirety of their salaries to charitable causes.
Thus far, Trump has made good on that vow, announcing quarterly donations during the first year of his presidency to four federal agencies: the National Park Service, the Department of Education, the Department of Health and Human Services, and the Department of T***sportation
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-donate-salary-va/

This will be used as a tax write off, otherwise he would have refused to take a salary.
Mrs. Obama did not have a staff of 40. br Melania ... (show quote)


You do get a lot of your information from the leading from the left, fact checker, Snopes don't you?

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Aug 7, 2018 17:35:50   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
moldyoldy wrote:
the fool posted a bunch of false statements that can not be backed up, so, he attacks.


Which of those "false" statements are you wanting to prove to be false? Yep, nice try but you prove, once again, what your crap about Trump lies turns out to be. Pure crap.

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Aug 7, 2018 17:39:55   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
moldyoldy wrote:
One last point, trump is fit to be tried.


Tried? For what?

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Aug 7, 2018 17:49:37   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Pointing out blatant lies that were obvious should not require rebuttal evidence, but the right never sees it's lies, as lies.


And the left seldom tells what the lie was, just that it was there.

Speaking of which, has the left said anything about the attack on the two (one black and one white), pair that were attacked and run out of the coffee shop in Philadelphia yesterday. Those a****a people keep talking about r****m, as they did then in blaming the city police (all black and Latin with one white). Poor people were griping about w***e s*******y and other foolishness like that.

What have you heard on your left leaning sources about that one?

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Aug 7, 2018 17:51:43   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
moldyoldy wrote:
We are all allowed our opinions, ad as Americans we are free to express them. As much as I disagree with you, I do not dislike you. Some here have earned my enmity.


Hot diggety dog, I hope I am one of those.

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Aug 7, 2018 18:14:39   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
eagleye13 wrote:
The report also showed that President Trump is far better at saving
money than Obama was. The total annual White House salaries under
Trump are $35.8 million vs. $60.9 million under Obama, a savings of
$25.1 million.

Thirty-nine fewer staffers are also dedicated to The First Lady of the
United States (FLOTUS). Currently, there are only five staffers
dedicated to Melania Trump vs. forty-four staffers who served Michelle
Obama (FY2009)





https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/staff-injection/


First Lady Michelle Obama has an unprecedented number of staffers working for her. See Example( s )

RATING
FALSE


https://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/michelle-obamas-staff/

According to the 2009 White House report to Congress, there are 16 people with a title specifically indicating they work for Michelle Obama’s office. In other words, there are 16 people with “first lady” somewhere in their title, such as Jocelyn Frye, deputy assistant to the president and director of policy and projects for the first lady.

The list reported by Sweet and The Last Crusade, however, includes six other staffers who do not have “first lady” in their title but are a part of the first lady’s office staff, such as Desiree Rogers, special assistant to the president and White House social secretary, and Natalie Bookey, staff assistant.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


As of last Jan. 2018, trump had 12 staffers serving her.. At the same point First lady Obama had 16 staffers..

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Aug 7, 2018 18:57:25   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Trump salary,

On Friday, the Trump administration released their annual report to
Congress on White House Office Personnel. It includes the name,
status, salary and position title of all 377 White House employees.


The report also said that Trump decided not to take a dime of his
salary ; instead he donated it to an amazing cause! See below

The report also showed that President Trump is far better at saving
money than Obama was. The total annual White House salaries under
Trump are $35.8 million vs. $60.9 million under Obama, a savings of
$25.1 million. Here are some other key findings:

There are 140 fewer employees on White House staff under Trump than
under Obama at this point in their respective presidencies.

Thirty-nine fewer staffers are also dedicated to The First Lady of the
United States (FLOTUS). Currently, there are only five staffers
dedicated to Melania Trump vs. forty-four staffers who served Michelle
Obama (FY2009)

However, it's what the report said Trump did with this salary that has
everyone talking.

Instead of taking his salary, Trump donated all $400,000 to the
Department of the Interior where it will be used for construction and
repair needs at military cemeteries! AMAZING! It's so great to have a
President who loves our brave military men and women so much!

Oh, and where's the media coverage of this? That's right, they don't
cover anything decent that the President does...

BUT WE WILL! PLEASE, PASS THIS MESSAGE ON TO ALL YOUR EMAIL PALS AND
OTHERS! TOGETHER, WE'LL GET THE MESSAGE OUT.
Trump salary, br br On Friday, the Trump adminis... (show quote)



Good post Eagle

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Aug 8, 2018 10:00:23   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Trump salary,

On Friday, the Trump administration released their annual report to
Congress on White House Office Personnel. It includes the name,
status, salary and position title of all 377 White House employees.


The report also said that Trump decided not to take a dime of his
salary ; instead he donated it to an amazing cause! See below

The report also showed that President Trump is far better at saving
money than Obama was. The total annual White House salaries under
Trump are $35.8 million vs. $60.9 million under Obama, a savings of
$25.1 million. Here are some other key findings:

There are 140 fewer employees on White House staff under Trump than
under Obama at this point in their respective presidencies.

Thirty-nine fewer staffers are also dedicated to The First Lady of the
United States (FLOTUS). Currently, there are only five staffers
dedicated to Melania Trump vs. forty-four staffers who served Michelle
Obama (FY2009)

However, it's what the report said Trump did with this salary that has
everyone talking.

Instead of taking his salary, Trump donated all $400,000 to the
Department of the Interior where it will be used for construction and
repair needs at military cemeteries! AMAZING! It's so great to have a
President who loves our brave military men and women so much!

Oh, and where's the media coverage of this? That's right, they don't
cover anything decent that the President does...

BUT WE WILL! PLEASE, PASS THIS MESSAGE ON TO ALL YOUR EMAIL PALS AND
OTHERS! TOGETHER, WE'LL GET THE MESSAGE OUT.
Trump salary, br br On Friday, the Trump adminis... (show quote)

A true American patriot President at last.

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Aug 8, 2018 10:02:11   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Mike Easterday wrote:
President Trump is a business MAN! Not a l***h like Obama.



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Aug 8, 2018 10:14:06   #
moldyoldy
 
oldroy wrote:
Hot diggety dog, I hope I am one of those.


Sometimes you can be reasonable, and other times like today your universal hatred comes out and you can't stop yourself from being foolish. I wonder if you missed your meds.

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Aug 8, 2018 12:48:21   #
Geo
 
Trump White House, Obama White House Compared-T***h! & Fiction!
Summary of eRumor:

Comparisons between the size and pay of White House staff under President Trump and President Obama began circulating in July 2017, shortly after Trump released information on all 377 White House employees.



The T***h:

Claims made about the Trump White House and Obama White House in July 2017 are a combination of t***h and fiction.

It’s true that Trump employed about 100 fewer employees and had a payroll of about $5 million less than Obama. However, claims about the number of personal attendants assigned to Michelle Obama and Melania Trump are incorrect.

These rumors began circulating in a post on discussion forums and social media from an unknown author, and we’ll take a look at each particular claim.

Trump White House/Obama White House Staff Sizes, Salaries-T***h!
Claims that the Trump White House had 110 fewer employees than the Obama White House at the six-month mark are true. But the claims that Trump spent $5 million less on payroll is somewhat misleading because its compares Trump’s first year in office (2017) to Obama’s last year (2016).

The Trump White House had 377 employees by July 2017 compared to the Obama White House’s 487 staffer’s in July 2009. And Trump’s payroll came in at $35.8 million, compared to the $40.9 million payroll of the Obama White House in its last year.



We’re calling this one “true” because the central claim that Trump had 110 fewer employees and paid $5 million less in payroll check out.

Melania Obama Has Five Staffers Compared to Michelle Obama’s 24-Fiction!
Rumors about the size of Michelle Obama’s staff persisted throughout the Obama’s eight years in office, and we’ve found claims that the former first lady’s staff was much larger than other first ladies to be false.

The rumor we previously investigated that the size of Michelle Obama’s staff in July 2009 (the same time period in question in the new rumor) was 22 compared to Hillary Clinton’s three staffers.

First, the list released by the White House didn’t specify if staffers worked for the president or first lady, and the rumor (falsely) assumed that all 22 of them listed worked for Michelle Obama.

Second, even if Michelle Obama had 22 staffers, it wouldn’t have been far off from previous staff sizes. A White House Museum page states that Hillary Clinton had 20 staffers and an additional 15 interns. Photos of Nancy Reagan and Laura Bush posted on the page show them posing in various photos with comparable staff sizes.

So, while it’s hard to tell how large Melania Trump’s staff was compared to Michelle Obama’s — earlier claims that Obama’s staff was bloated don’t ring true.

Trump Donated His $400,000 P**********l Salary to the National Park Service-T***h! & Fiction!
It’s true that President Trump donated his first quarter p**********l salary to the National Park Service to support historic battlefield sites. However, the president’s first quarter salary was $78,0000 — not $400,000, as the rumor claimed.

Press Secretary Sean Spicer announced the president’s first donation in an April 3rd White House Press Briefing:



The President has spoken with Counsel and made the decision to donate his first-quarter salary, in total, to a government entity, and he has chosen this quarter to donate it to the National Park Service. The Park Service has cared for our parks since 1916, and the President is personally proud to contribute the first quarter of his salary to the important mission of the Park Service, which is preserving our country’s national security.

So it is my pleasure, on behalf of the President of the United States, to present a check for $78,333 to the Secretary of the Interior, Ryan Zinke, and Superintendent of the Harper’s Ferry Park site, Superintendent Brandyburg.

trump national park service
Sean Spicer presents President Trump’s first paycheck to the National Park Service on Aril 3, 2017.

It’s assumed that the president will choose different causes to donate p**********l paychecks from subsequent quarters to, but no information had been made available about the president’s second paycheck at the time of publication.

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Aug 8, 2018 18:22:50   #
Carol Kelly
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The only problem is that it's a lie.


Not a lie, Moldy. You feed on lies.

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Aug 8, 2018 19:40:06   #
moldyoldy
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Not a lie, Moldy. You feed on lies.


Several people have pointed out the lies, but you don't care about t***h or facts.

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Aug 8, 2018 21:33:55   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
How much money has Trumpet collected off of the government? Once you finish reading this, you’ll realize that his “giving away his salary” is pittance for him, compared to what he’s making off of the taxpayer overall. All this is is a smokescreen to draw attention away from his real, CRIMINAL (in violation of the US Constitution) acitvities

Since Donald Trump declared his candidacy for president in late 2015, at least $16.1 million has poured into Trump Organization-managed and branded hotels, golf courses and restaurants from his campaign, Republican organizations, and government agencies. Because Trump’s business empire is overseen by a trust of which he is the sole beneficiary, he profits from these hotel stays, banquet hall rentals and meals.

To arrive at the total, we compiled campaign finance reports from the Federal E******n Commission; state government spending gleaned from dozens of state websites and portals; and federal agency expenditure records obtained by the Washington-based t***sparency organization Property of the People. For this project, Property of the People filed Freedom of Information Act requests with 15 federal agencies and sued four of them to obtain records. (The organization is also attempting to procure comparable records for the Obama era.)

The vast majority of the money — at least $13.5 million, or more than 84 percent of what we tracked — was spent by Trump’s p**********l campaign (including on Tag Air, the entity that operates Trump’s personal airplane). Republican Senate and House political committees and campaigns have shelled out at least another $2.1 million at Trump properties. At least $400,000 has been spent by federal, state and local agencies. (For example, the Florida Police Chiefs Association held its summer conference last year at the Trump National Doral Miami.) The state and local tally appears to be a gross undercount because of the agencies’ spotty disclosures and reporting.

The use of taxpayer dollars at Trump hotels is under scrutiny in a closely watched lawsuit in Maryland federal court. The District of Columbia and the state of Maryland sued Trump, citing a venerable anti-corruption provision of the U.S. Constitution known as the Emoluments Clause. It prohibits any financial gift, or emolument, from benefiting a sitting public official, including the president.

The judge in that case, Peter Messitte, is expected to make a final ruling in the next few months. Last month, he allowed the case to proceed, concluding in his opinion that a trip to the Trump International Hotel in Washington by Maine Gov. Paul LePage “rather clearly suggests that Maryland and the District of Columbia may very well feel themselves obliged, i.e., coerced, to patronize the Hotel in order to help them obtain federal favors.” The nonprofit group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, or CREW, which is co-counsel in the Maryland/D.C. case, is also the plaintiff in a separate emoluments suit, which was dismissed; an appeal of that decision is pending.

One of Trump’s lawyers, Sheri Dillon, has argued in the past that paying a hotel bill would never have qualified as an emolument when the Constitution was written; “instead, it would have been thought of as a value-for-value exchange.” (Countered Norman Eisen, chairman of CREW and a former ethics chief under President Obama, “all of these competing interests are openly and nakedly trying to buy off a president…. Obviously, the government spending, whether it’s federal, state, or local, is a domestic emolument.” The Trump Organization and the White House did not respond to requests for comment.

There are few ways to avoid the implication that the use of Trump properties is endorsed by the federal government, said Don Fox, the former acting director of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics, which oversees the government’s ethics rules. One way to avoid the problem, Fox suggested, would be a public statement by Trump along the following lines: “Stay where you need to stay. Basically, do what’s best for the taxpayer.”

But Trump has sent a very different signal with his actions. In his 18 months in office, he has stayed at his hotels or Mar-a-Lago, his Palm Beach, Fla., estate and club, nearly a third of the time: 161 days and counting.

“Trump appears to be commandeering federal resources in order to maximize revenues at Trump properties, and he does this by visiting properties close to the White House,” said Kathleen Clark, a law professor at Washington University in St. Louis and an expert in legal ethics. “And when he travels to the golf courses in Florida, Virginia and New Jersey, other agencies that are involved in supporting the president end up spending money.”

There are no rules barring federal employees from patronizing Trump properties. Employees can be reimbursed for expenditures according to federal travel regulations, including the cost of a hotel room or the price of a meal. There are limits to these per diems — employees cover any cost beyond the reimbursable amount — but rates at many Trump properties are within that range, reimbursement records show. (The General Services Administration provides a handy calculator to figure out what the per diems are depending on where an employee is traveling and when.)

But even if a stay at a Trump property falls within federal travel regulations, it’s hard to escape the fact that the president is personally benefiting from taxpayer dollars — and that federal employees have a potential incentive to curry favor with their ultimate boss.

Consider a trip last year by Matthew Snyder, who works for the Commerce Department’s National Institute of Standards and Technology, or NIST, in Colorado. Snyder traveled to Washington, D.C., for 11 days in April 2017 to attend managerial training. He stayed first at a Marr**tt in Gaithersburg, Md. (where NIST is headquartered), and then at the Trump International Hotel in Washington. Both rooms cost $242 per night, and both were covered by his per diem for lodging. (According to federal guidelines, $242 is the maximum nightly amount the government will reimburse for visits to the D.C. area in the spring season.)
The Trump International Hotel appeared to cultivate at least some federal business, offering a discounted rate for government employees at the time. (A hotel staffer told us that the Trump International no longer offers a government discount.) Snyder benefitted from such a lowered price. His receipt shows a “room type” code of SK1, which refers to a suite, and a rate plan listed as “DISGOV.” The typical suite at the hotel starts at $740, according to its website.

Snyder said in an interview that he chose to stay at the Trump hotel because it was within walking distance of a conference he attended, and that its proximity allowed him to save the cost of renting a car.

But several hotels in a six-block radius provide cheaper rates, including the Hotel Harrington, which sits only a block north of the Trump hotel and charges $175 for a single room. And receipts show that Snyder rented a car and racked up $336 in valet parking charges during his stay at the Trump International.

When asked about cheaper nearby hotels and the parking costs, Snyder wrote in an email: “I could offer clarity, but I choose not to.” In the end, Snyder charged about $2,740 to a government charge card at the Trump International over five days, including room service and valet parking.

In response to questions, the Commerce Department said that records it reviewed “appear to show that a handful of career employees at the Department of Commerce who patronized Trump-owned properties complied with federal travel regulations.” Other Commerce Department employees asked about their spending at Trump properties explained that it was the most affordable option (in one instance involving a hotel in Las Vegas) or that the visit was made while off-duty (in the case of a trip to Los Angeles).

Other federal agencies offered a variety of responses. A statement from the Defense Department, whose employees spent nearly $150,000 at Trump properties between January and June 2017, said its staff are “free to choose where they stay, with the understanding that the government will reimburse no more than the lodging portion of the established per diem limit for the place of temporary duty. There are no plans to change or create guidance at this time.”

The Secret Service also patronized Trump properties while agents were protecting the president or his family. In March 2017, for example, the agency paid $27,724.32 at the Trump golf course and resort in Doonbeg, Ireland. The stay was to “support E. Trump Visit,” receipts note, which took place in April, when Eric Trump went to the resort for two days of business meetings, the Irish press reported at the time.

The State Department, which is listed as the federal agency reimbursing the costs of the Ireland trip, said the Secret Service is in charge of its own travel expenses when it relates to p**********l security. For other stays at Trump properties, the State Department said it does “not afford the Trump Organization preferential treatment,” adding that its employees are “routinely counseled on federal ethics law and on the importance of avoiding even the appearance that department resources are misused for the benefit of any outside organizations or private interests.”

The State Department doesn’t receive any preferential treatment when employees stay at Mar-a-Lago, receipts show. For an April 2017 trip by then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, his chief of staff and another aide for meetings with Chinese President Xi Jinping, each room cost $546 per night, which was described by the Trump Organization as a “rack rate,” or a non-discounted, standard room. The spending was approved by State Department officials, who noted that the trip was to “meet with POTUS for a high level meeting.”

by Derek Kravitz, Alex Mierjeski and Gabriel Sandoval, June 27, 2018, 6 a.m. EDT
ProPublica

PS: According to ABC News, the U.S. federal government billed taxpayers nearly $70,000 in expenses at the Trump hotel in Turnberry, Scotland, during President Donald Trump's visit a few weekends ago, federal spending records show.

The expenditures, totaling $69,767, were made by the State Department on behalf of the U.S. Secret Service, tasked to protect the president and his family members during their trips abroad.

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