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Aug 10, 2018 18:43:31   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
permafrost wrote:
I think mother nurse is spoiling you rotten.... you lucky dog...


tariffs must be targeted to be effective. my congressman Nolan and my President Obama had some well focused tariffs the helped put iron workers back to work..

Very little news about it, very good results.. trump scatterguns the steel tariffs and headlines bugle it to the world..

Obama was never good at bragging about his policies.. Dems need to learn to do that..

The US brings much more in trade deals of parts and materials then in finished goods..

so a tariff which increases prices on our own products is not a good thing for the middle class..

Ag of course has been the first to suffer and no one except those of farm background are even aware of that fact..

If the trade war continues, we will see much more negative in our economy due to lack of focus.

The Chinese have a central planning committee, (not saying that we should) and they have made pr********ns to make this a long term feud if needed..

Hope I am wrong in that, but I do think the Chinese will hold out longer then we would want to hold out..
I think mother nurse is spoiling you rotten.... yo... (show quote)


A reminder is in order. This is what Trump is trying to reverse.

F*****m and C*******m are both Totalitarian
The International Bankers have a totalitarian agenda.
To understand their agenda - Google: “CFR,TC,Bilderberg Group”
A couple Council on Foreign Relations CFR & Trilateral Commission TC Quotes*

“Actions at the multinational level will be needed, if the process of international relocation of industries is to be accelerated in an organized fashion.” TC Report #23, 1982

“An end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal attack" – Richard Gardner , Ambassador to Italy - (CFR) Foreign Affairs, April, 1974

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Aug 10, 2018 18:45:48   #
moldyoldy
 
old marine wrote:
At leasy he wont steal trillions of dollars from social security and the other government accounts like the Obama crooks did.


When one lie falls flat, you just create a new one.

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Aug 10, 2018 20:35:58   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
Yes, I do think corporations should pay higher taxes.. the net taxes were not out of line with the rest of the world, and our economy did not need a kick, it was already the best in the world.

Tariffs must be directed and targeted to be effective.. not tossed out on every country we trade with..

As in target China, maybe Australia on steel. Not the EU and Canada.. that is dumb..

We import mostly parts and materials. in spite of what we see at Walmart, they are not the part of the developing problem..

Ag and Mfg will be the problem.. prices will increase and the middle class will pay more in what is effectively more tax..

counter tariffs will drive down our exports, as we have already seen proven..

Over all trade balance is down.. the ag trade is very far down and looking bad.. in futures.. have a quick look at quotes..
Yes, I do think corporations should pay higher tax... (show quote)
Corporate taxes and tarrifs are both paid by American consumer.

You support corporate taxes that lose American jobs, but h**e tarrifs that protect American jobs.

I've got it

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Aug 10, 2018 21:17:36   #
moldyoldy
 
Super Dave wrote:
Corporate taxes and tarrifs are both paid by American consumer.

You support corporate taxes that lose American jobs, but h**e tarrifs that protect American jobs.

I've got it


Do you see any jobs saved? There is a multi-million dollar ship load of soybeans sitting in the ocean off China because of tariffs. Farmers are getting hurt bad.

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Aug 10, 2018 21:19:53   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Do you see any jobs saved? There is a multi-million dollar ship load of soybeans sitting in the ocean off China because of tariffs. Farmers are getting hurt bad.
American employment is at historic highs

Deal with it.

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Aug 11, 2018 06:42:02   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
moldyoldy wrote:
When one lie falls flat, you just create a new one.

That is the Socialist Democrat party slogan?

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Aug 11, 2018 06:46:45   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Do you see any jobs saved? There is a multi-million dollar ship load of soybeans sitting in the ocean off China because of tariffs. Farmers are getting hurt bad.

That just proves China orders soybeans then places an import tariff on them and refuses to pay their own tariff. Socialist Dictatorship in action just like The Socialist Democrat party.

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