Roe v Wade
Jul 10, 2018 13:55:42 #
donald41
Loc: puyallup Wa
Marsinah wrote:
Apparently men also believe they have no choice in even "her" right to sexual intercourse. Just spread your seed and get away. No responsibilities, just fugitives of sex.
Who said the man has no resposibility?
Jul 10, 2018 14:01:21 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Are you serious? Please point out which of our una... (show quote)
Ronnie is saying a fetus has no rights, unalienable or otherwise. He apparently has no one to talk for him either.
Jul 10, 2018 14:04:17 #
donald41 wrote:
Who said the man has no resposibility?
I believe I was referring to lj's comment:
"Not do they have a right to force a woman to keep the baby even if he wants it..
I believe that should be a consideration yet it is not."
Responsibility is the other side of the coin.
Jul 10, 2018 14:10:50 #
Thought you all might like this quote, from "A Canticle for Leibowitz":
The atheist physician tells the abbot of St. Leibowitz Monastery (1900 years post-apocalypse): "You think people have a soul..."
To which the abbot replies: "You don't HAVE a soul; you ARE a soul. You HAVE a body, temporarily."
Do you all know that a "zygote" is the cell formed by the immediate union of sperm and egg and contains all DNA necessary for that "soul" to reach its full potential?
The atheist physician tells the abbot of St. Leibowitz Monastery (1900 years post-apocalypse): "You think people have a soul..."
To which the abbot replies: "You don't HAVE a soul; you ARE a soul. You HAVE a body, temporarily."
Do you all know that a "zygote" is the cell formed by the immediate union of sperm and egg and contains all DNA necessary for that "soul" to reach its full potential?
Jul 10, 2018 14:14:24 #
Marsinah wrote:
Thought you all might like this quote, from "... (show quote)
So don't go around telling everyone that a woman is a private being with the right to destroy new souls.
But I know I'll never find another YOU---after you have been aborted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmactMIhrRM
Jul 10, 2018 14:40:24 #
Marsinah wrote:
A real weirdo. And gave America an opportunity, more than any war, to the devastation of vast amounts of intellect and creativity.
And birth defects. I am of the opinion that because some v***ses hide in human semen, there is a colossal amount of "defects" due to the colossal amount of sexual activity released by Roe v. Wade.
And birth defects. I am of the opinion that because some v***ses hide in human semen, there is a colossal amount of "defects" due to the colossal amount of sexual activity released by Roe v. Wade.
Yes, she is and was even before she just started speaking her mind so to speak.. In her capacity though it violates the fundamental rule of staying impartial, and keeping her personal opinion out of the public at hand.. She has diminished the respect of the highest court in her outlandish disrepect which leaves me not respecting her!!!
No doubt about it, Marsinah.. It allowed irresponsiblity and thinking they could just abort all because they both couldn’t take a pill or put on a condom....
I support freedom of choice because I don’t believe our government should be interferring in our right.. I do not support a******n unless medically necessary or rape, incest.. I do believe in carrying too term and then adoption in those late term pregnancy where a fully developed live sustaining baby is involved..
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Jul 10, 2018 14:42:55 #
Morgan wrote:
Do you even know what are our unalienable rights and in what document they are defined? Not the state either, choosing the right's over a women's body, over her own, is denying her, her unalienable rights as written in our constitution. What a person does with their body does not fall under a governmental right.
What next forced vasectomies and prison for the men who produce illegitimate children?
What next forced vasectomies and prison for the men who produce illegitimate children?
Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness Did you get that? LIFE! This includes the Life of a living baby in the womb.
The Founders believed that natural rights are inherent in all people by virtue of their being human and that certain of these rights are unalienable, meaning they cannot be surrendered to government under any circumstances. The fundamental freedoms of the American people are alluded to in the Declaration of Independence, implicit in the Constitution, and enumerated in the Bill of Rights.
There is no unalienable right implicit in the constitution that protects the act of taking a life, whether in or out of the womb.
Jul 10, 2018 14:53:51 #
ron vrooman wrote:
When a private female upon the land decides she does not wish to carry a pregnancy to term, who, what, where, how does anyone in Our Constitutional Republic form of government have jurisdiction over her decision??
Can we keep this to lawful and without conjecture, emotion, this is a private being making a decision none can gainsay her.
when I private member of we the people decides to eliminate from their body that is it.
Can we keep this to lawful and without conjecture, emotion, this is a private being making a decision none can gainsay her.
when I private member of we the people decides to eliminate from their body that is it.
Ron: Just get the Federal Government out of the decision! The American People should not be paying for a******ns with federal money as well as State money! This is a moral issue!
Jul 10, 2018 15:16:33 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
Morgan wrote:
Not the state either, choosing the right's over a women's body, over her own, is denying her, her unalienable rights as written in our constitution. What a person does with their body does not fall under a governmental right.
What next forced vasectomies and prison for the men who produce illegitimate children?
What next forced vasectomies and prison for the men who produce illegitimate children?
Whether they should be able to make a law forbidding a******n or not, it isn't a federal issue.
Jul 10, 2018 15:18:35 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
Marsinah wrote:
Thought you all might like this quote, from "... (show quote)
Interesting. Do you think a soul has inheritable characteristics??
Jul 10, 2018 15:37:35 #
Jul 10, 2018 15:51:41 #
OMG, I never thought this would happen. Kevyn and I agree on something!
But further, IMHO, opinions on a******n are like assholes, about everyone has one, and they are different most of the time. These opinions are based on how you were raised, IAW "You are what you were when!" No one's opinion is any better or worse than someone's else, except in the mind of the persons doing the complaining. A******n is not a Federal, State, County, nor City issue, it is an issue between the person and their upbringing. The government should just stay out of it. No taxpayer should EVER be forced to pay for someone else's a******n, nor have they the right, or obligation to criticize someone for having one. It is frankly just none of their business, and it doesn't hurt them physically, so they should just learn to tolerate it and go on living within the boundaries of their own individual ideology and theology, wh**ever it may be! Many problems can arise when one tries to force one's ideology upon someone else that differs from their mindset; sometimes even war results. I try to live my life without hurting others, but sometimes hurting someone is inevitable, as is getting hurt! How one handles this "hurting" makes a lot of difference!
Roe vs Wade is now the law, and sanctioned by the Supreme Court, so it should be "settled law," but IMHO it should never have been written into law in the first place, Federal, State, County, or City. We simply have to much "government," and too many "lawyers!" If challenged, and overturned, unless it is just simply repealed, what we may get to replace it will probably be even worse!
The Socialists appear to believe they must CONTROL EVERYTHING by TAXING EVERYTHING or INCARCERATING EVERYONE WITH AN OPINION THAT DIFFERS FROM THEIR OWN! That is my primary objection to the Socialist cause, and the STATE owning everything is another!
The Constitution, with it's Bill of Rights, was written to protect legal citizens from an overreaching government, not to protect the government from the people.
The First Amendment ensures the people can express an opinion about the government, or most anything else, and "speak t***h to power," without reprisal.
The Second Amendment was written, not to protect Bambi, but to ensure that the legal citizens of this USA have the means to remove an overreaching tyrannical government, and if v****g fails, by force if necessary.
In spite of what Socialist agitprop attempting to brainwash us into believing it is bad, the Constitution and Bill of Rights are the most important documents the USA has ever had, and it is also the "Law of the Land." Democracy nor A******n appears NOWHERE in either document, and most of the laws passed by Congress beyond the Tenth Amendment were written to benefit the "lawmakers" and their friends, and there are so many laws now that nobody can possibly remember them all so we break a good many of them every day; that makes us a country of "outlaws!"
It is high time we got back to being a Constitutionally limited Republic under the Constitution, a Sovereign Nation, and a world leader. We can't help EVERYONE on the planet, but those we do elect to help should receive our help on their own soil to make their own country into a suitable place for them to live, rather than allowing them to illegally migrate here, then allowing them to attempt to remake the USA into a replica of what they were running from, which is the height of absurdity, and approaching insanity!
I doubt that you, Kevyn, being a liberal extremist and me being rather conservative, agree with me, but I really don't care. I happen to love the USA as it used to be, before the Socialist came out of the closet, and the Congress evolved into a Congress of Apes, and Big Finance, Big Pharma, and Big War Industries took over as the "Deep State!"
I have my opinions and you have yours, and that is how it should be. I hold no h**e for you personally, even though I believe you're wrong most of the time. I may not be right all the time either, I just put out what makes sense to me. Maybe we can just agree to disagree, in a civil manner, right or wrong. Have a nice day.
But further, IMHO, opinions on a******n are like assholes, about everyone has one, and they are different most of the time. These opinions are based on how you were raised, IAW "You are what you were when!" No one's opinion is any better or worse than someone's else, except in the mind of the persons doing the complaining. A******n is not a Federal, State, County, nor City issue, it is an issue between the person and their upbringing. The government should just stay out of it. No taxpayer should EVER be forced to pay for someone else's a******n, nor have they the right, or obligation to criticize someone for having one. It is frankly just none of their business, and it doesn't hurt them physically, so they should just learn to tolerate it and go on living within the boundaries of their own individual ideology and theology, wh**ever it may be! Many problems can arise when one tries to force one's ideology upon someone else that differs from their mindset; sometimes even war results. I try to live my life without hurting others, but sometimes hurting someone is inevitable, as is getting hurt! How one handles this "hurting" makes a lot of difference!
Roe vs Wade is now the law, and sanctioned by the Supreme Court, so it should be "settled law," but IMHO it should never have been written into law in the first place, Federal, State, County, or City. We simply have to much "government," and too many "lawyers!" If challenged, and overturned, unless it is just simply repealed, what we may get to replace it will probably be even worse!
The Socialists appear to believe they must CONTROL EVERYTHING by TAXING EVERYTHING or INCARCERATING EVERYONE WITH AN OPINION THAT DIFFERS FROM THEIR OWN! That is my primary objection to the Socialist cause, and the STATE owning everything is another!
The Constitution, with it's Bill of Rights, was written to protect legal citizens from an overreaching government, not to protect the government from the people.
The First Amendment ensures the people can express an opinion about the government, or most anything else, and "speak t***h to power," without reprisal.
The Second Amendment was written, not to protect Bambi, but to ensure that the legal citizens of this USA have the means to remove an overreaching tyrannical government, and if v****g fails, by force if necessary.
In spite of what Socialist agitprop attempting to brainwash us into believing it is bad, the Constitution and Bill of Rights are the most important documents the USA has ever had, and it is also the "Law of the Land." Democracy nor A******n appears NOWHERE in either document, and most of the laws passed by Congress beyond the Tenth Amendment were written to benefit the "lawmakers" and their friends, and there are so many laws now that nobody can possibly remember them all so we break a good many of them every day; that makes us a country of "outlaws!"
It is high time we got back to being a Constitutionally limited Republic under the Constitution, a Sovereign Nation, and a world leader. We can't help EVERYONE on the planet, but those we do elect to help should receive our help on their own soil to make their own country into a suitable place for them to live, rather than allowing them to illegally migrate here, then allowing them to attempt to remake the USA into a replica of what they were running from, which is the height of absurdity, and approaching insanity!
I doubt that you, Kevyn, being a liberal extremist and me being rather conservative, agree with me, but I really don't care. I happen to love the USA as it used to be, before the Socialist came out of the closet, and the Congress evolved into a Congress of Apes, and Big Finance, Big Pharma, and Big War Industries took over as the "Deep State!"
I have my opinions and you have yours, and that is how it should be. I hold no h**e for you personally, even though I believe you're wrong most of the time. I may not be right all the time either, I just put out what makes sense to me. Maybe we can just agree to disagree, in a civil manner, right or wrong. Have a nice day.
Kevyn wrote:
This statement makes more sense than any of your posts. Men should have no influence over a woman’s reproductive choices it is hers and hers alone.
Jul 10, 2018 15:59:42 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
Owl32 wrote:
of course it does for HE knew us before we were.
Assuming you are replying to me, you'll have to explain how that means the soul has inheritable traits.
Jul 10, 2018 18:15:03 #
old marine
Loc: America home of the brave
Bad Bob wrote:
God is an a******nist!!!! img src="https://static... (show quote)
If he is he must have overlooked you.
Jul 10, 2018 18:18:02 #
old marine
Loc: America home of the brave
Lonewolf wrote:
Without the a******n issue, the republicans will have no platform left .
I v**ed republican for years because of this issue ,without it I can see no reason why anyone would v**e republican again!
I v**ed republican for years because of this issue ,without it I can see no reason why anyone would v**e republican again!
V**e Republican to get the socialists democrats out so American will remain a free nation under God with liberty and justice for all.
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