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Jul 7, 2018 22:25:34   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
29 years and nine months ago I registered to v**e and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose s***ery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump. Steve Schmidt. Former Republican in a brave new world

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President." Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States.

Now I don't know who Schmidt is only that he is yet one more person who is leaving the republican party and he gave such a succinct reason for doing so--it's become the party of Trump--which means it is no longer a party that represents the American People.
29 years and nine months ago I registered to v**e ... (show quote)


How long does it take for Schmidt to leave the Republican Party ? You guys have posted this kind of stuff before. Besides Schmidt has been critical of Republicans for a long time. It predates Trump.

Why does anyone think this matters ?

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Jul 7, 2018 22:57:49   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh I don't know, this person seemed to think himself a republican and is simply recognizing that the new party is one of a cult centered around the personality of Trump. That has nothing to do with being part of the Washington Establishment and since Trump has surrounded himself with the likes of Scott Pruitt and Ben Carson what's wrong with the establishment compared to what Trump has around him? How can you possible expect to make this country great again when you've elected a party centered around corruption?

And again, it's not Americans who were sickened by Obama but you conservatives where the bulk of the wreckage was either in your imagination or purely of your creation--like his love affair with Muslims, like his being born in a foreign country, like him being a homosexual and his wife a t**********e, and on and on and on. After awhile REAL Americans simply stopped believing the manure that you cons were trying to spread. I mean, what the hell were we suppose to believe...any of it or all of it? And it would be bad enough if it was occasionally but you had a full propaganda machine that just bombarded us with BS daily! I mean it was simply too much and America simply quit listening...which is the only reason a president who was as bad as he was could be reelected with a record like his!!!

It's your complete hatred of Obama that ensured his ree******n...
Oh I don't know, this person seemed to think himse... (show quote)


It's YOUR complete hatred of Trump that will ensure eight years of Trump.

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Jul 7, 2018 23:03:37   #
Nickolai
 
son of witless wrote:
How long does it take for Schmidt to leave the Republican Party ? You guys have posted this kind of stuff before. Besides Schmidt has been critical of Republicans for a long time. It predates Trump.

Why does anyone think this matters ?






I hadn't heard Steve Schmidt being critical of Republicans prior to Trump but he certainly is critical of trump. He was a long time Republican strategist

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Jul 8, 2018 04:29:02   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
son of witless wrote:
How long does it take for Schmidt to leave the Republican Party ? You guys have posted this kind of stuff before. Besides Schmidt has been critical of Republicans for a long time. It predates Trump.

Why does anyone think this matters ?

The Socialists Democrats twisted f**e news is running out of things to lie about.


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Jul 8, 2018 04:30:02   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Loki wrote:
It's YOUR complete hatred of Trump that will ensure eight years of Trump.

Amen and amen.

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Jul 8, 2018 05:37:03   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
old marine wrote:
Amen and amen.




If people are leaving the GOP,why have Republicans gained seats in local, state and national e******ns since 2010? Every e******n sees fewer Democrats in office, yet they insist that a "blue wave" is coming next e******n.

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Jul 8, 2018 05:56:27   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Loki wrote:
If people are leaving the GOP,why have Republicans gained seats in local, state and national e******ns since 2010? Every e******n sees fewer Democrats in office, yet they insist that a "blue wave" is coming next e******n.

Because the socialists democrats twisted f**e news tells them that B'S and they actually believe the lies. Dumb Democrats.

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Jul 8, 2018 06:22:45   #
PeterS
 
smithdw55 wrote:
My goodness, most all of these articles, statistics etc are from the 2015-16 time frame. They have little, to no baring on what the situation is today. The fact that the DNC Chair, Perez, has openly stated that "the future of the Dem Party is Socialism", albeit something that many of us have realized for some time, but it is scaring off many of the folks that have in the past aligned with the Dems. Now they are going either Independent or coming to the realization that DJT is after all doing a hell of a job and especially in light of the opposition he has had to fight through since his Swearing In.

It is the Dem Party that is in a shambles and can't even come up with a decent candidate for the mid-terms let alone the 2020 P**********l e******n, listing the same ole losers that have failed for the last three P**********l E******n cycles as their potential candidates. Yea, the Hildabeast, Uncle Joe, Pocahauntus Warren, Socialist Bernie, etc, etc. Only platform they seem able to articulate is "Resist, Resist, Resist DJT". Kinda pathetic, but pretty solid reasoning for what appears to be a mass exudous from the Dem Party.
My goodness, most all of these articles, statistic... (show quote)

Actually the earliest I saw was 2016 but even it is started in 2015 that means that millions have left the republican party by now. Trump only won because he eked out 77,000 v**es in what were traditionally Democrat states. So what's the probability that he lost the 78,000 v**es that he's going to need? Pretty good if you ask me...

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Jul 8, 2018 06:39:46   #
PeterS
 
son of witless wrote:
How long does it take for Schmidt to leave the Republican Party ? You guys have posted this kind of stuff before. Besides Schmidt has been critical of Republicans for a long time. It predates Trump.

Why does anyone think this matters ?


Keep telling yourself that. Hope it makes you sleep better...

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Jul 8, 2018 06:51:04   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
The thing is Blade I didn't particularity like Obama and when you say a bunch of BS then I have to come to his defense.

1) With Obama I would give his foreign policy a C but with Bush I would give his foreign policy an F and if not for the complete mess Bush made who knows what Obama would have done. Obama shouldn't have had to clean up Iraq and spread of Democracy that turned into such a mess was something George Bush was promoting long before he left. And what I have to ask is why would Trump rip up the Iranian nuclear agreement instead of trying to strengthen it? I mean after all it is something that the majority of experts said Iran was in compliance with and was preventing them from perusing a path to becoming nuclear nation. That's a big start so instead of becoming a petulant child and taking your ball and going home why not try to fix what you don't like and making the deal something everyone can live with.

Now I'm sure you think Trump the greatest military leader since Reagan but the only thing Trump has done is use the same tactics that Obama was using against ISIS and then you guys jump up and down at all the miracles you think Trump has done. That's an example of the 'cult of Trump' and not an example of what great leadership he's performed.

2) Obama's economic debacles. Now you and I both know you don't know a thing about economics so what exactly are you basing your statement on--the refusal of conservatives to do a damn thing to work with Obama to move the economy along? Now I've been over GDP before and under Trump it is up only a tick where we should be in the mid 3's or low 4's after the size of the tax cut the economy received. That it's done little to nothing tells us that this tax cut is like the Bush tax cut and not designed to help the economy but simply pad the accounts of the wealthiest amongst us. Now if you had studied economics you would know that, while the wealthy can be big spenders, what they tend to buy is imported to our economy and not manufactured here. And of course jobs growth has finally ticked up after 2017 actually declining from 2016.

So with Obama we had someone who steered us away from a possible depression and while growth wasn't spectacular it was steady and Trump wouldn't be where he is without the job that Obama did for him.

3) As for contempt for our constitution--you support Donald Trump! Forget any possible collusion with Russia here is a man who tries to strip free speech from, mostly African Americans, simply because he's offended by the way they protest. Then he used an moral equivalence with neo-N**i's and w***e s*********ts to those who opposed them--again, simply because he didn't like who opposed them. Then we have Trumps attack on the FBI, not for the work they've done but in an attempt slow down their investigation into him.

And a side bar but the IG pretty much cleared them of any wrong doing regarding it's investigation of Clinton. If that's not enough he then attacks his Attorney General for doing what he should have done and recuse himself from the investigation! Trump acts like Sessions was suppose to ignore the rule of law and work to defend him from the Russia Investigation! Right now Trump is trying to pull an epic run around the constitution and you conservatives are simply standing there and watching him perform! Instead of holding Trump accountable, Republicans are joining him in a cynical attempt to tarnish the FBI and undermine the criminal investigation into Russian e******n meddling.

Throw in the conspiracy mongers at Fox News, they have promoted a crackpot theory that there was a “secret society” within the FBI trying to bring down Trump. The zany conspiracy story involves two FBI officials, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, and text messages they exchanged during the 2016 campaign. These were leaked to the press after the justice department turned them over to Congress. Then the IG said they showed bias but didn't seem to effect the investigation into Hillary. Suddenly you people seemed to lose interest. I have to wonder why?

The political poison spread by Trump is toxic to Democracy and goes beyond anything spread by Nixon and his supporters during Watergate--an investigation that was almost twice as long BTW as the one we have today yet who are the ones yammering that Mueller is taking too long in his investigation?
The thing is Blade I didn't particularity like Oba... (show quote)


"1) With Obama I would give his foreign policy a C but with Bush I would give his foreign policy an F and if not for the complete mess Bush made who knows what Obama would have done. Obama shouldn't have had to clean up Iraq and spread of Democracy that turned into such a mess was something George Bush was promoting long before he left. And what I have to ask is why would Trump rip up the Iranian nuclear agreement instead of trying to strengthen it? I mean after all it is something that the majority of experts said Iran was in compliance with and was preventing them from perusing a path to becoming nuclear nation. That's a big start so instead of becoming a petulant child and taking your ball and going home why not try to fix what you don't like and making the deal something everyone can live with."
Firstly, you are not qualified to give anyone, even Obama, a grade on anything. In order to give someone a grade, you need to know more about a subject than they do. You do not know enough about politics, or national defense, or economics, or law, or history or much of anything else to grade anyone.

You have never served in the military and have no conception of the damage that your boy Obama did to our military. You can add that to your ever growing list of things you don't know, along with your childish and biased maunderings about the economy. The only petulant child I see is you, a sniveling, venal little boy whose hero didn't win.

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Jul 8, 2018 09:04:24   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Loki wrote:
"1) With Obama I would give his foreign policy a C but with Bush I would give his foreign policy an F and if not for the complete mess Bush made who knows what Obama would have done. Obama shouldn't have had to clean up Iraq and spread of Democracy that turned into such a mess was something George Bush was promoting long before he left. And what I have to ask is why would Trump rip up the Iranian nuclear agreement instead of trying to strengthen it? I mean after all it is something that the majority of experts said Iran was in compliance with and was preventing them from perusing a path to becoming nuclear nation. That's a big start so instead of becoming a petulant child and taking your ball and going home why not try to fix what you don't like and making the deal something everyone can live with."
Firstly, you are not qualified to give anyone, even Obama, a grade on anything. In order to give someone a grade, you need to know more about a subject than they do. You do not know enough about politics, or national defense, or economics, or law, or history or much of anything else to grade anyone.

You have never served in the military and have no conception of the damage that your boy Obama did to our military. You can add that to your ever growing list of things you don't know, along with your childish and biased maunderings about the economy. The only petulant child I see is you, a sniveling, venal little boy whose hero didn't win.
i "1) With Obama I would give his foreign po... (show quote)


""1) With Obama I would give his foreign policy a C but with Bush I would give his foreign policy an F and if not for the complete mess Bush made who knows what Obama would have done. Obama shouldn't have had to clean up Iraq and spread of Democracy that turned into such a mess was something George Bush was promoting long before he left. And what I have to ask is why would Trump rip up the Iranian nuclear agreement instead of trying to strengthen it? I mean after all it is something that the majority of experts said Iran was in compliance with and was preventing them from perusing a path to becoming nuclear nation. That's a big start so instead of becoming a petulant child and taking your ball and going home why not try to fix what you don't like and making the deal something everyone can live with."
Firstly, you are not qualified to give anyone, even Obama, a grade on anything. In order to give someone a grade, you need to know more about a subject than they do. You do not know enough about politics, or national defense, or economics, or law, or history or much of anything else to grade anyone.

You (Peter) have never served in the military and have no conception of the damage that your boy Obama did to our military. You can add that to your ever growing list of things you don't know, along with your childish and biased maunderings about the economy. The only petulant child I see is you, a sniveling, venal little boy whose hero didn't win." - Loki



Covered Petey well.
And Bush's screw ups also.
Thanks for taking the time.

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Jul 8, 2018 09:11:17   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
PeterS wrote:
29 years and nine months ago I registered to v**e and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose s***ery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump. Steve Schmidt. Former Republican in a brave new world

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President." Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States.

Now I don't know who Schmidt is only that he is yet one more person who is leaving the republican party and he gave such a succinct reason for doing so--it's become the party of Trump--which means it is no longer a party that represents the American People.
29 years and nine months ago I registered to v**e ... (show quote)


Are you familiar with the #walkaway rage going on ??? You may wish to take a look and see who is walking away from whom.. Hint it isn’t what you may think and its gaining momentum quickly... So much so that the dems are trying to figure out how to regradp those peaving...

#walkaway

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Jul 8, 2018 09:17:21   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh I don't know, this person seemed to think himself a republican and is simply recognizing that the new party is one of a cult centered around the personality of Trump. That has nothing to do with being part of the Washington Establishment and since Trump has surrounded himself with the likes of Scott Pruitt and Ben Carson what's wrong with the establishment compared to what Trump has around him? How can you possible expect to make this country great again when you've elected a party centered around corruption?

And again, it's not Americans who were sickened by Obama but you conservatives where the bulk of the wreckage was either in your imagination or purely of your creation--like his love affair with Muslims, like his being born in a foreign country, like him being a homosexual and his wife a t**********e, and on and on and on. After awhile REAL Americans simply stopped believing the manure that you cons were trying to spread. I mean, what the hell were we suppose to believe...any of it or all of it? And it would be bad enough if it was occasionally but you had a full propaganda machine that just bombarded us with BS daily! I mean it was simply too much and America simply quit listening...which is the only reason a president who was as bad as he was could be reelected with a record like his!!!

It's your complete hatred of Obama that ensured his ree******n...
Oh I don't know, this person seemed to think himse... (show quote)


Pete, words are cheap, I think the action of the 2016 movement speaks volumes over words of despair...

It wasn't h**e over Bo for me although I did and do loath the guy. For me it was a resounding no of clinton. Campaigning on how she will continue BOs regime and how corrupt she and bill are.. She winning would have meant billyboy right back in office with her and that motivated me very well..

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Jul 8, 2018 09:17:39   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
Are you familiar with the #walkaway rage going on ??? You may wish to take a look and see who is walking away from whom.. Hint it isn’t what you may think and its gaining momentum quickly... So much so that the dems are trying to figure out how to regradp those peaving...

#walkaway


Thanks for mentioning Walk Away, LJ.

Campaign to abandon liberalism goes v***l
https://youtu.be/EX0RyawQub4

#WalkAway social media campaign urges liberals to walk away from the Democratic Party. Founder Brandon Straka explains on 'The Ingraham Angle.'

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Jul 8, 2018 09:25:25   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
PeterS wrote:
29 years and nine months ago I registered to v**e and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose s***ery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump. Steve Schmidt. Former Republican in a brave new world

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President." Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States.

Now I don't know who Schmidt is only that he is yet one more person who is leaving the republican party and he gave such a succinct reason for doing so--it's become the party of Trump--which means it is no longer a party that represents the American People.
29 years and nine months ago I registered to v**e ... (show quote)


Candace Owens: There Will Be a 'Major Black Exit' From the Democratic Party
https://youtu.be/lJ7M8zzpi_c

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