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Jun 10, 2018 23:54:06   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
Then there is no reason to give anyone a pay raise, is there? There are many people working today who are not worth minimum wage. Hell, they should be paying their employers for not firing them.
There is no law that says you have to make a career out of a minimum wage job. You may be stuck in one temporarily. If you feel you are worth more than minimum wage, find an employer who agrees with you. There are all sorts of ways to improve your education so you will be worth more than that.
About Roosevelt, he said all sorts of things. Some true, some not.
Then there is no reason to give anyone a pay raise... (show quote)


Sorry, I do not think you are this cold or ignorant. But this is a Republican problem of cognitive dissonance. Prosperous and important by birth and connections, they are blind to the struggles of the common person. Not everyone is bright and has a benefactor. And their are other limiting and personal struggles to be weighed. "Pull yourself up by your own boot straps" is a hellish and damning lie. Some can't afford boots. Mercy and compassion for the downtrodden and disenfranchised is not what the Social Darwinist of the GOP considers. It is anathema. Which gives them every excuse to slash needed programs for the poor and hurt the labor force.

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Jun 10, 2018 23:55:13   #
rumitoid
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Right Jr, we're here to keep the wackos miserable and I do my best.


That pig looks vaguely familiar.

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Jun 10, 2018 23:56:23   #
rumitoid
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
BB: You're a silly little libtard, searching for the convenient t***h?


You should have put up a caution to viewers.

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Jun 11, 2018 00:08:07   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
The point is the opportunity is there. There are all sorts of educational and training opportunities available to anyone with the drive to look for them. Insisting on being paid far more than a job is worth, rather than taking steps to increase your own marketability is simply passing the buck.


How do you measure what a job is worth? What criteria? Flipping burgers is extravagant at minimum wage? What about a Corporation's obligation--yes, obligation--to secure their employees a viable wage, out of respect for the fundamental t***h of their existence that without their employees they are unpopular nerds walking home alone. Not mere cogs in the wheel of their genius or expertise. The substance of their profit is the employee. Or let them flip burgers by themselves.

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Jun 11, 2018 00:12:06   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
The fact that the US has the highest corporate tax rate in the world might have something to do with it also.


America does not have the highest corporate tax rate in the world not even close, yet that is immaterial to what emarine said. But you do not get it. Just the bottom-line and back to bed with Ayn.

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Jun 11, 2018 00:16:30   #
rumitoid
 
teabag09 wrote:
Rumi, my wife was welfare/food stamp Supervisor in Norfolk, Va. for 32 years. Before Obama was elected there was a requirement to be looking for work, like for unemployment, to receive food stamps and a two year cap. Of course there were exception as there are people who sincerely need help.

Most days there were between 50 and 100 people waiting to apply. Within a month of Obama being elected the lines of NEW applicants stretched around the entire building which was at one time a huge big box store. This went on for months as all work requirements, time periods, etc. were lifted. Most all of these CUSTOMERs as they were required to be called were able bodied people looking for their Obama phone and other freebies. So Rumi, I believe your numbers are a little skewed, nice try though. Mike
Rumi, my wife was welfare/food stamp Supervisor in... (show quote)


I take your word for that. Very discouraging, and probably maddening for your wife. Not my numbers though. Just what I took from what I thought was a reliable site. Will search further, tho, thanks for input.

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Jun 11, 2018 00:21:30   #
teabag09
 
The US is third to Saudi Arabia and Porto Rico. Porto Rico is and has been a s**t hole and the Saudi's are taxing their own industries. Mike
rumitoid wrote:
America does not have the highest corporate tax rate in the world not even close, yet that is immaterial to what emarine said. But you do not get it. Just the bottom-line and back to bed with Ayn.

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Jun 11, 2018 00:28:39   #
rumitoid
 
teabag09 wrote:
The US is third to Saudi Arabia and Porto Rico. Porto Rico is and has been a s**t hole and the Saudi's are taxing their own industries. Mike


Good info, thank you.

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Jun 11, 2018 00:29:34   #
teabag09
 
You're welcome. It drove them nuts. It wasn't just the fact that the work load increased by so much with out reinforcements but the fact that people were making unrealistic demands because the President had declared such, without approval from Congress. In other words he changed/enacted law which was not within his purview. I have no problem with helping people in need, in fact I've been accused of someone who will give the shirt of my back to someone in need. The difference is, it's MY shirt and not yours. Mike
rumitoid wrote:
I take your word for that. Very discouraging, and probably maddening for your wife. Not my numbers though. Just what I took from what I thought was a reliable site. Will search further, tho, thanks for input.

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Jun 11, 2018 06:01:03   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
I know. I h**e it! But T***h won't let me alone. What's a guy to do?


T***h might leave you alone if you would start telling it occasionally.

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Jun 11, 2018 07:58:32   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
All of you hard nosed, just get off your lazy ass and get a job, or get a better paying job if your working at a minimum wage job have no clue or understanding. Just because one has a job, a job that even pays above minimum wage, one may still qualify for SNAP assistance. Many employers know this, although they pay higher than minimum wages many employers let employees work only 30 hours or less per week.

A SINGLE person working 30 hours/week making as much as $9.80/hour ($15,000) qualifies for SNAP.

Gross monthly income — that is, household income before any of the program’s deductions are applied — generally must be at or below 130 percent of the poverty line. For a family of three, the poverty line used to calculate SNAP benefits in federal fiscal year 2018 is $1,702 a month. Thus, 130 percent of the poverty line for a three-person family is $2,213 a month, or about $26,600 a year. For one person getting 39 hours per week that i is $13.37/hour and still qualifies a family of three for SNAP assistance. But get this: Assets must fall below certain limits: households without an elderly or disabled member must have assets of $2,250 or less, and households with an elderly or disabled member must have assets of $3,500 or less. In other words they can't have any assets worth a s**t!

Most non-disabled adult SNAP recipients work. Many in jobs that provide low pay, can have shifting schedules, and often lack key benefits such as paid sick leave.

http://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/issue-brief-most-working-age-snap-participants-work-but-often-in-unstable

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Jun 11, 2018 08:38:01   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
rumitoid wrote:
44% are children. To put it another, more heartbreaking way, 17.6 million children need SNAP assistance every month.
21% are elderly or disabled people
22% are non-elderly, non-disabled people with children
13% are non-elderly, non-disabled people

17.6 million children "in the land of the free and the home of the brave," "the city on a hill," the world's most prosperous nation, need--need!--government assistance to survive. Limit or cut this program is not the America I imagined. Those kids are not Reagan's "welfare queens" or "young bucks" : they look nothing like the images the Right always conjures when looking to cut assistance. Neither are the 21% elderly and disabled who are also affected by these cuts that the Right portray those on welfare as "bottom-feeders" and "shiftless."
44% are children. To put it another, more heartbre... (show quote)


Snap is needed much more than Trumps wall or his trips to Key Largo every weekend Trump cut your costs and save our kids

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Jun 11, 2018 08:47:31   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
jimpack123 wrote:
Snap is needed much more than Trumps wall or his trips to Key Largo every weekend Trump cut your costs and save our kids


Yes, it is sad, jim, that there are those here on OPP that think if those receiving SNAP assistance would just get off their lazy asses and get a job or even if they have a job not paying enough to get by on to get off their asses and find another job not realizing how hard HIGH pyaing jobs are to come by. Most jobs today are in the food and service industries and are generally low paying. Workere with young children have an even harder time because child care has become unaffordable.

Employers must be made to shoulder the responsibility by paying a livable wage and making child care available in the workplace.

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Jun 11, 2018 08:56:47   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
rumitoid wrote:
44% are children. To put it another, more heartbreaking way, 17.6 million children need SNAP assistance every month.
21% are elderly or disabled people
22% are non-elderly, non-disabled people with children
13% are non-elderly, non-disabled people

17.6 million children "in the land of the free and the home of the brave," "the city on a hill," the world's most prosperous nation, need--need!--government assistance to survive. Limit or cut this program is not the America I imagined. Those kids are not Reagan's "welfare queens" or "young bucks" : they look nothing like the images the Right always conjures when looking to cut assistance. Neither are the 21% elderly and disabled who are also affected by these cuts that the Right portray those on welfare as "bottom-feeders" and "shiftless."
44% are children. To put it another, more heartbre... (show quote)


What do you expect when they are rewarded with housing and even more money when they have another child to feed??

These figures represent a concerted effort to keep them suppressed for their v**es later..

Some people legitamately need help,give it to them, not able bodied people who could take advantage of schooling offers, trade schools or just the simplicity of birth control!! They have plenty of opportunity but it takes initiative and desire to want to better themselves.. Many chose the free way of staying home, having more babies, getting food, cell phones, housing, cash etc.. Why give that all up for a job??? Geeeezzz...

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Jun 11, 2018 09:24:32   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
lindajoy wrote:
What do you expect when they are rewarded with housing and even more money when they have another child to feed??

These figures represent a concerted effort to keep them suppressed for their v**es later..

Some people legitamately need help,give it to them, not able bodied people who could take advantage of schooling offers, trade schools or just the simplicity of birth control!! They have plenty of opportunity but it takes initiative and desire to want to better themselves.. Many chose the free way of staying home, having more babies, getting food, cell phones, housing, cash etc.. Why give that all up for a job??? Geeeezzz...
What do you expect when they are rewarded with hou... (show quote)


Beg to differ, lindajoy, but the infamous welfare queen does not exist. The lazy, shiftless, scheming welfare queen seen in line at the grocery store buying filet mignon and lobster with food stamps, with countless jobless men drifting in and out of her bed was an image conjured up by Reagan i n 1976.

Work requirements for the long-term SNAP recipients who do not have children have been in place since 1996.

Trumpy and repulsives want to make in order to receive about $150 to $185 a month in benefits, SNAP participants between the ages of 18 and 59 would have to prove they are working least 20 hours a week or participating in an equivalent job training program. Those who are disabled or raising a child younger than 6 would be exempt.

What’s wrong with that, you might ask? Nothing, if you assume that the only people who don’t have jobs are the ones who don’t want them.

Who are these people, anyway?

Reagan, the repulsives’ king of welfare reform, introduced us to the “welfare queen” during a campaign rally in 1976.

“In Chicago, they found a woman who holds the record,” he said. “She used 80 names, 30 addresses, 15 telephone numbers to collect food stamps, Social Security, veterans’ benefits for four nonexistent deceased veteran husbands, as well as welfare. Her tax-free cash income alone has been running $150,000 a year.”

That never happened. But her legend lives on.

The t***h is that the average food stamp recipient isn’t an urban black woman at all. She is a white woman.

Contrary to what Loki alleges, of the 44 million SNAP recipients, 36% are white, 25% are African-American, 17% are Hispanic, 3% are Asian and 1% are Native American, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Contrary to what some might think, people living in this country illegally are not eligible.

The bottom line is that the real beneficiaries of SNAP, independent of race, are children. 44% of participants are younger than 18, an additional 12% are age 60 or older and 9% are disabled adults, according to federal government statistics.

And the assumption that people who receive food assistance don’t work? It’s a lie.

Nearly one-third of all SNAP households — and nearly half of those with children — report an income. Many families rely on SNAP only when they are between jobs or because they are among millions of American’s working poor. The problem is that most of the jobs they can get are low-paying and often are temporary.

That elusive "welfare queen"? She's just a figment of those repulsives’ uninformed imaginations.

http://psmag.com/economics/erasing-welfare-myths

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