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Jun 10, 2018 17:20:48   #
Nickolai
 
Squiddiddler wrote:
A bit long but an eye opener!

Civil War – A few thoughts . . .

A few days ago Jack Minzey sent what was to be the final chapter in the long line of books and treatises which he had written. Jack passed away Sunday, April 8, 2018. Professionally, Jack was head of the Department of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein. This is the last of his works:

Civil War: How do civil wars happen?

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through e******ns because they don't even agree that e******ns are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you h**e each other but accept the e******n results, you have a country. When you stop accepting e******n results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an e******n. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the e******n. There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any e******n that they don't win. It means they don't believe that t***sfers of power in this country are determined by e******ns

That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to k**l a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can h**e the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next e******n. When you consistently reject the results of e******ns that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship

Your very own dictatorship!

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.

Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for i*****l a***ns. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the i*****l a***n amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce i*********n l*w. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own i*********n l*ws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that.

Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.

Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the e******n. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an e******n because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.

Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a l*****t Democrat Professional Progressive Left Wing Government.
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The threat is from a far right wing that has ran its self of a cliff in its hatred for the left. The liberal Progressive New Deal coalition died in the early 1970's and the right began its move to reclaim America for the business class and with in 20 years had accomplished just that. The left does not want dictatorship. The nation needs a reasonable viable right to keep progressives from over reaching but Todays right has become the most dangerous organization on earth their denial of science and reality threatens life on this planet as humanity has known it

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Jun 10, 2018 21:27:00   #
Steve700
 
permafrost wrote:
few of us want to oust trump, we want conditions that will block his ruinous efforts until we can get rid of the entire sick corrupt h**e filled administration..

I***t. This is the on both sides of Putin has Christianized Russia and has against globalism, wanting to retain the sovereignty of his own country. That is a country with nuclear weapons and that were at the table when they were c*******t. Right now, Putin has less of a c*******t, then you are. The real c*******t who are also at the head of the g*******t agenda are the Chinese. Why don't you say they should be at the table instead of being so stupid. ========== Your assertion that Trumps administration is full of h**e is pure projection You are following Alinsky's role to accuse them of being who you are and doing what you do. (And you deny the Democratic Party is following the Alinsky rules and call him irrelevant, you follow his rules like every other liberal without knowing where it came from or what you're doins because you have no self-awareness and are just that, out of contact with reality) Where is your proof that Trumps administration is h**e filled, dimwit?.
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Here is mine. And you can Not deny that this is accurate
Here is mine. And you can Not deny that this is ac...

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Jun 10, 2018 21:32:13   #
debeda
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
wcs: Ane your doing nothing but deflecting you're wrong side of history on the American people! It’s dangerous to be governed by really silly people—that would be Democrats, all and sundry. I don’t think we yet appreciate how big a national disaster we escaped by not electing Hillary Clinton to finish what Obama started. As it is, the sillies are working overtime to turn the state of California into a Third World basket case. What they might do to the whole nation, if they ever get another chance, doesn’t bear thinking of.

Friends don’t let friends v**e for Democrats: Drunken drivers at the nation’s steering wheel.
wcs: Ane your doing nothing but deflecting you're ... (show quote)


Perfect analogy!!!

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Jun 10, 2018 21:34:44   #
debeda
 
permafrost wrote:
few of us want to oust trump, we want conditions that will block his ruinous efforts until we can get rid of the entire sick corrupt h**e filled administration..


And that's a good and fair statement on EXACTLY how conservatives felt about the Obama administration and the spectre of HRC winning in 2016 and completing the destruction.

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Jun 10, 2018 21:36:26   #
debeda
 
Nickolai wrote:
The threat is from a far right wing that has ran its self of a cliff in its hatred for the left. The liberal Progressive New Deal coalition died in the early 1970's and the right began its move to reclaim America for the business class and with in 20 years had accomplished just that. The left does not want dictatorship. The nation needs a reasonable viable right to keep progressives from over reaching but Todays right has become the most dangerous organization on earth their denial of science and reality threatens life on this planet as humanity has known it
The threat is from a far right wing that has ran i... (show quote)


Yawn. Love it when proglibs talk about reality......

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Jun 10, 2018 22:02:44   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
debeda wrote:
Yawn. Love it when proglibs talk about reality......


Reads like a fairy tale to me. Always such drama. Must be a metrosexual.

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Jun 10, 2018 22:07:42   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
Nickolai wrote:
The threat is from a far right wing that has ran its self of a cliff in its hatred for the left. The liberal Progressive New Deal coalition died in the early 1970's and the right began its move to reclaim America for the business class and with in 20 years had accomplished just that. The left does not want dictatorship. The nation needs a reasonable viable right to keep progressives from over reaching but Todays right has become the most dangerous organization on earth their denial of science and reality threatens life on this planet as humanity has known it
The threat is from a far right wing that has ran i... (show quote)

I think the lugnuts on your rambler are loose.😂

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Jun 10, 2018 22:24:05   #
debeda
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Reads like a fairy tale to me. Always such drama. Must be a metrosexual.


LMAO

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Jun 11, 2018 06:54:23   #
Endoscopy Loc: Florida
 
working class stiff wrote:
Won't matter. 'Civil War'....that's their story and their sticking to it.

Doesn't matter that the premise of the article is false, no matter who wrote it. Liberals have now lived under two Republican Presidents who lost the popular v**e. The liberals are not in r*******n, nor threatening constitutional governance. And the rightists forget that they advocated for civil war under Obama (remember the Bundy brouhaha?), elected by popular and e*******l v**es.

The far right is looking in the mirror and projecting.
Won't matter. 'Civil War'....that's their story a... (show quote)

Both parties won without winning the majority of the v**e. Clinton is a prime example. Ross Perot ran twice dividing the conservative v**e. The result was both times Clinton had the plurality and therefore got the majority of the e*******l v**es.

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Jun 11, 2018 08:27:46   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Just as you cut to the heart when you said demonrats weren't trying oust president Trump.


You're right....2020 can't come soon enough. Meanwhile, in 2018 the goal is to limit the damage he inflicts on our country and it's long-standing allies. Shouldn't surprise you.

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Jun 11, 2018 08:42:09   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Endoscopy wrote:
Both parties won without winning the majority of the v**e. Clinton is a prime example. Ross Perot ran twice dividing the conservative v**e. The result was both times Clinton had the plurality and therefore got the majority of the e*******l v**es.


True...it's the way the system works.
Doesn't negate the fact that the original article about a 'civil war' is BS and based on the laughable idea that liberals are trying to o*******w the system instead of working within it.

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Jun 11, 2018 09:21:04   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
working class stiff wrote:
You're right....2020 can't come soon enough. Meanwhile, in 2018 the goal is to limit the damage he inflicts on our country and it's long-standing allies. Shouldn't surprise you.


Please list the damage. All i see is good. Better economy, less regs, more jobs, busting obamas legecy to tiny pieces. I know you think these things are horrible, but there not.

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Jun 11, 2018 10:53:33   #
debeda
 
working class stiff wrote:
True...it's the way the system works.
Doesn't negate the fact that the original article about a 'civil war' is BS and based on the laughable idea that liberals are trying to o*******w the system instead of working within it.


Wellll...the liberals are trying to o*******w the system. It appears that they are only willing to work within a system that they are in control of to shape as they will. This is why the dems lost so badly in 2016. No one with any common sense liked what they were shaping.

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Jun 11, 2018 11:29:37   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
working class stiff wrote:
You're right....2020 can't come soon enough. Meanwhile, in 2018 the goal is to limit the damage he inflicts on our country and it's long-standing allies. Shouldn't surprise you.


WCS: Don't be one of the silly people....Liberalism is a fail ideology of silly people. As Lee Duigon says: It’s dangerous to be governed by really silly people—that would be Democrats, all and sundry. I don’t think we yet appreciate how big a national disaster we escaped by not electing Hillary Clinton to finish what Obama started. As it is, the sillies are working overtime to turn the state of California into a Third World basket case. What they might do to the whole nation, if they ever get another chance, doesn’t bear thinking of.

Friends don’t let friends v**e for Democrats: drunken drivers at the nation’s steering wheel.

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Jun 11, 2018 15:06:07   #
Endoscopy Loc: Florida
 
working class stiff wrote:
You're right....2020 can't come soon enough. Meanwhile, in 2018 the goal is to limit the damage he inflicts on our country and it's long-standing allies. Shouldn't surprise you.

Obama inflicted enough damage on the country before the mid term e******ns stopped the insanity of more of Obama Care and Dodd Frank. Obama Care actually raises the cost of medicine care since it fails to pay what it costs the doctor's office to see the patient. Doctors have to make up the shortfall with higher costs to the other patients. Also they limit the number of medicaid and Obama Care patients to keep the business side of the practice healthy.

Dodd Frank gives the government the authority to seize accounts of those with money in financial businesses if it deems it necessary. Buy gold and hide it anybody? If they can't find it in an institution they can't take it.

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